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Makes you wonder if a dating sight just for people who do not wish to have kids will do? %10 of 300mill is a good 30million people. But thank you, for the advice. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

Wow that is some amazing data thank you. Sadly in my masters in business program there are 14 of us. 7 guys and 7 lovely soccer moms. Such is life. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

I do say that, and it's a half truth and according to many a lie. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

Between living a less than optimal location for dating and working in a less than optimal environment for dating (most if not all of my no skydiving friends are married with kids) I take what I can get. Until things change, possibly 2 years from now, this is my reality. First date is an interview based on small talk. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

When I work with kids I tell them to never say No to something they are unsure of. I tell them that the best answer to a question they don't know is simply "I don't know" that gives them room to stand back do research and come back with maybe a yes answer. Even a girl who does not wish to have kids is exposed to extreme pressure regarding having them. I recall when i was married that every one and their mother not only asked why my x and I were not planning or intending on having kids but after hearing that we were not interested that we were called or told we were; selfish, short sighted, knew now better, odd and should reconsider. We were a couple and could deal with such an attack. I it were just one person could they? Over time they will "alter" their behavior such as to prevent these kinds of verbal attack...by the way the personal one here have been very nice no really very nice....after all it's in our biology to behave in a manner that reduces the number of social attacks. Now perhaps I miss spoke when I said I lie, I should say i skirt the issue so as to get to know the person better. Of the girls I've dated only one did not wish to have kids and that came out after a month of seeing each other. By me being ambiguous I was able to know her better and we had a good time. But reading these posts I've come to the conclusion that I have a very long road ahead of me. Between what physical traits and educational traits I look for in a partner this added desire to not reproduce just complicates matters and reduces potential dates. But such is life. Better true to ones intentions than to live a life of compromise. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

god i'm old! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5uWRjFsGc Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

hummmm... I'm in a catch 22. I'm fighting biology, sociology and my personal limits as to what I find attractive. It's going to be a long walk. Though very few actually provided info as to how much the notion of me not wishing to have kids affected them the info provided was greatly appreciated. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

WELL....if you put it that way...then yes...yes I am DEAD SEXY!

That explains a lot. She hits hard! The woman has a hell of a swing when she's holding a wooden spoon.

Wendy, Ongoing giggle with my friends regarding my "type" (AND NO OFFENCE TO ANYONE SO DON'T BITCH!) 1) No big chicks 2) No moms. So no. My mom would kill me if I were to become seriously involved with a single mother and furthermore I'm not interested. I just don’t wish to have children in my life. I am self centered and wish to now that I'm 34 to enjoy my life. As a second date once went Her "Oh you can so take a child on a international flight to Africa!" Me "No darling you can take a child on an international flight to Africa. The rest of us are contemplating what is better to tape that child's mouth shut or to open the door and jump so as to have a few moments of peace before we die." There was no date 3 obviously. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

Wendy, I'm not at all ashamed to admit that looks do matter for me and so does education level. But when it comes to kids it's cut and dry. I've seen kids brought into this world where there is no real love. Mom needed to have the kid so that she could obtain entrance into an exclusive club of play dates and shopping at Baby Gap but had little to nothing to do with the child that was born. I feel that is a sin. I'm not going to move on it. Sadly I've run my numbers...show's off dork card...and I'm looking at well under 5% of the general population of wome between the ages of 25-35 who fit what I am looking for in a partner. Added difficulties include but are not limited to choice of occupation and choice of location for home. Thus, my targets of opportunity are few and far beteen and I would like to survey to determine how much this particular issue will be a hinderance. Brz regarding saying point blank I do not wish to have kids not only won't get me to date 1 it won't even get me to date 0. I've "played" with the peramaters of dating sights and when I move my peramaters to "Do not wish to have kids" I get little to no responces and significantly more to "unsure". Yes the precentage of the women is low who do not wish to have kids but even those that do not still utilize the desire to have kids as a gauge of "normalcy" Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

Easy to say difficult to implament Sapphire . My coming out and point blank saying "Yes I like them, they are good fun, but I honestly don't wish to ever have kids." Brings about a few responces. 1) Oh you will change your mind when you meet the right person...there will be no other date. 2) *angry* Why!...there will be no other date and a good dinner will have gone badly. 3) OH?....I have now come across as someone who is selfish and unable to or unwilling to share his life with anyone, there will be no other date and a good dinner will have gone badly. Even a girl who does not wish to have kids appears to wish to hear that the guy, me, has a heart and is a caring individual and as such an indicator of this is may wish to have kids. I'm not defending my position or my response of saying "at the moment I do not know" what I am looking for is a gut check and thus an indictor of how the future may possibly look. FYI At the moment I would say I have dated about 20 odd girls since last January. Of which only 1 was not interested at all in having kids. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

...how can I put it.... Not every girl wishes to have kids NNNOOOWWWW. and some girls are not sure while a very few don't wish to have them but feel social pressure to consider it or at least say that they do. I'm not in a position to be "picky" regarding who I date. I'm not in a high target setting and my personal "filters" reduce the over all targets to a ver few. So any opportunity that I get I must take full advantage of. And I don't "lie" I just say "I'm not sure." or "I haven't given it much thought". Is it a fine line? Sure, is it a lie? Sure why not. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

How much of a turn off is it? Now please without too much snarkeyness bitchyness or attitude.....which most likely won't happen. How much of a turn off is it TO THE AVERAGE CHICK if a dude does not wish to have kids? The reason I ask is that I do not enjoy lying but I find myself continually lying regarding this issue when I'm on dates with women my age. I'm 34 and was married for quite a bit of time thus girls tend to ask two questions 1) Any kids? 2) Do you wish to have any kids? These are sensible questions seeing how old I am and how long I was married. The problem lies in question #2. I would rather place a tooth pick under my toe nail and kick a wall than to have kids. I don’t want them, not now not ever. But if I wish to see the girl again I've noticed I've had to lie or make up some convoluted story about "how I'm not sure..." Now it could just be the finite data set I have dealt with and the given age bracket. Thoughts? Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

The best is yet to come..... Hope right? Be is justfied or not. Says alot about people. Keeps you from going in... It's when you loose that "hope" that things start gettign very scarry. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

No no you have to stay there for a little while. I'm not going to forgo my pay just because you could live on a 90% pay cut for a few month. I not dumb you know! And when you made more money...well you cheated. You had to take the new responsibilities and all the extra stree at the same reduced rate. How dare you cost the company more for taking on more tasks! How dare you! Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

You just proved his point yet again, bro. Come on don't be chicken! Have you seen how little those guys and gals in China make! $20 a day! I bet you could do the sam work here in the US for $19! Give it a shot for a year let me know how it works out and if it looks like a rocking gig I will join. DEAL!

I don't know....I thought I was there but I was wrong. Life from 0-17 sucked. Revolution, war, emigration, divorce, being the only forging kid in an all white town....then at 17 I got lucky. I was an exchange student for one year in South America and life for that one year was AMAZING!

So....why don't you guys go ahead and take a good 80% pay cut. And well if it works for you I may join! Deal!

Posts...brother this isn't about posts. It's about policy and action. From the recent elimination of the millionaires tax in NY to the recent GOP crackdown on state unions one has to wonder what history books the GOP was reading? And was this history written after the fact by Beck for his "university"? FYI I'm from Iran, the ruling mullahs also have their own history books and their own universities. You should read what these guys think of past events. It's enough to make you wonder "are these guys serious?" and then you realize that they are seriously armed and as such...yes...yes they are serious. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

That's just wishful thinking... Well I'm not even close to any of you in the air....maybe one day but not any time soon But perhaps I'm just static...oh well... Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

You're an engineer...just throw $$ at the problem! I'm an engineer with 2/3rds of an EMBA...I can throw money and odd equations at it but I don't think it's going to work! Oddly I think I may no longer be "shocking" I'm now just.....oh god.....one of you! Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

So.....let me get this straight....we should lower our wages such that we make a little less than those in the developing world such that we ourselves can push back the tide of development and become an underdeveloped nation. Pardon me if I consider taking a few these trust fund babies and their entire families and drag them by their ankes using a black on black ZX-14 and do a few quarter mile runs up and down wall street while making all their "buddeis" watch at gun point before considering making "less" so they can make "more". It's funny how Republicans wish for the "good old days" you know the ones where unions were outlawed, worker safety and food safety were jokes and my persoanl favorite child labor was encouraged and the rich got really rich while the poor well they fell into machines and were ground up and consumed by other poor. Ah now that's the America I wish to live in! Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

I don't think I'm going to win this one....a very sad day. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!