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They do, argue all you want but they do. And it's simple, E-C-O-N-O-M-I-C-S Economics are a valid rule of thumb methodology to study basic human interactions. http://www.observer.com/2008/straight-women-new-york-citys-mating-market-worst-country It's not grass doll that's making me stay up at night attempting to find a way to dump my condo and move closer to NYC, its ASS! And let's put all things aside shall we, is there any place better for a single girl than your local DZ? Well maybe some sort of prison? Or a large Engineering firm, or....where I live? To the OP, don't do an Andy Dick, don't puff your chest or become a flaming ass, just learn how to skydive enjoy the sport for the peace and friendship it provides and be smart......do your dating in or around a large university or in a city. And if you have any female friends who are "collectors" avoid them like the plague as well. And with that.....the argument is done isn't it? Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

billvon It's not a "Grass is greener" discussion. It's the simple numbers and facts on the ground. Supply vs. Demand. There are SIGNIFICANTLY more single available women in NYC than in NJ. Last I knew it was a little more than 1.5 single girls per every single available guy. I'm sorry, it is what it is. My friends who live in and around NYC are having a great time. Sadly I'm "just" too far away at 35 miles. My loss their gain. Thus, it's not only my attitude or perspective it's also the attitude and perspective of the person being observed. Look as I said earlier why do you think guys will step over their mother to get an invite to any event at the playboy mansion? Simple? To feel what the average girl feels when they are in an engineering office or at a DZ. To be the only other guy in an environment where there are 52 very attractive girls. From the vantage point of the 52 girls...these guys look amazing. As i said EVEN ANDY FUCKING DICK got laid at the Playboy Mansion. Do you think he would have had a chance if there were 52 guys and 2 girls? HELL NO! But when he's the only other guy, the attitude and perspective of the women is; 1) Well he isn't all that bad. 2) Well I am good looking but.....there are 51 other girls he can be talking to and some of them are way better looking than me, thus I probably shouldn't be giving him any attitude. SO! Our OP walked on to a DZ, saw a shit load of guys and two girls. Were they really 10/10.....odds are....no. But their "perceived value" was inflated by a simple bit of logic; VERY LOW AGGREGATE SUPPLY (2 girls) EXTREMELY HIGH AGGREGATE DEMAND (52 guys) And for the laymen, when you haven't had food to eat in 2 weeks, even dog food starts looking good. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

1) VERY RUDE JOKE! http://www.theprovince.com/life/5359283.bin?size=620x400 (I can't make it due to saying I would not make fun of + sized girls....this month....) 2) Girl needs a Brazilian! She needs to do a better job of clearing out that landing strip of bumps and humps! 3) http://worldshowbiz.info/beauty-contest/miss-universe-2011-swimsuit-preview/ http://worldshowbiz.info/beauty-contest/miss-universe-2011-swimsuit-preview-%E2%80%93-part-2/ YUM YUM AND A BOTTLE OF RUM! ;-) Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

Nope, just saying looks and attitudes are based on perspective of the observer and the observed. Take for example where I live in NJ. Not many good looking, skinny, educated girls walking around. The ones that are here tend to be on the....well pissed off side. Why? simple, they can be. Lots of guys to choose from and not much competition. And note that the guys tend to be the classic "NJ Shore" types.... Now cross the river into say NYC and hang around the Financial district, hum...why are these very smart, skinny, hot girls just so much more friendly and approachable? Simple.....they are a dime a dozen. And that girl from NJ who thought she was gods gift to man....well she needs to STFU and put that attitude away for she now has some very serious competition. And note how much more relaxed the guys are? Even Andy Dick could get laid in this crowed. Supply Vs. Demand, basic economics. And what's the latest numbers for skydiving? 15% on a good day? So a girl who is so so any place else is perceived to be hot at any given DZ. I'm not trying to offend, I'm just describing basic facts on the ground. You may not like me shedding light on this but it is what it is. Heck, walk around....I know a good half dozen girls that come to my home DZ and don't even jump...they just walk around, and hit on a packer or two to give their egos a boost and they are off with the wind. Further more I know a few girls who are EPIC "collectors" of dudes. And after simply pointing out what they were doing and why they were doing it.....well let's just say the response was a bit...explosive. It is what it is. Thus why I am going crazy trying to figure out how to escape my condo and move closer to NYC or at least get out of engineering. As for the OP, stand back make sure they are 10/10. I'm pretty sure they most likely were just 6's maybe 7's but being the only 2 girls around say 52 guys....your perception was a little bit off. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

Yeah, but again - nothing compared to having to listen to your eyes slide left and right. The guy said in the article that watching tennis had been a nightmare. nah man it was loud as hell. loud enough that if i was on the phone people could hear it. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

Where I work I can only order office supplies form a few given vendors. I will look to see if that model is available. From what I can tell the low end models, which I have to buy for the office as well as what came with my latest Dell desk top all have this ratcheting mechanism built in. I'm just guessing it was cheaper than dampened bearings or something? Who knows. All I can say is that when you are scrolling though documents and various presentations after a while it can grade on ones nerves. And thus I had that pesky piece of wiring removed and now the office is much quieter and I'll be honest my index finger feels a little better. How can I express this....imagine driving your car on the rumble strips of the highway....sure it's fun but after a while you do want it to be quiet. And well that's what it's like. A quiet ride. now i have no idea how this thread morphed into one talking about girls but......ok why not let it ride. That said i liked this part of the article; AKA the dude is dumb enough to think that if he says the right few words regarding a bunch of BS he may have a better chance of getting laid. I see this mostly in engineering offices, labs, my local drop zone and other places where there are 52 dudes and 2 chicks. It's the opposite of the Andy Dick effect. Either you have hyper masculinity, chest puffing, acts of strength and over all rude behavior or you get what best can be described as hyper Emocrapness.... Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

That is why it is fun to change someone's mouse click sound on Windows to something very loud and very annoying! Also fun if that sound is unusually long. Man that is EVIL! I was in the office till about 7 tonight reviewing contracts. And let me tell you simply being able to scroll around with out that horrible click click click sound you get was just so nice on the mind. But now I'm home and well......I can't "fix" this one. No way to open it up and remove the offending piece of steel that sits inside the scroll wheel. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

About 2 hrs ago there was a strange light coming out of the sky. It only lasted a few minutes and I'm not sure, but I think it's that thing they call "the sun". Why yes...yes it was the sun! I know I saw it as well. Hell this sucks! My DZ is under water...this is no longer fun! Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

You know when it's just you in the office, and you are reading document after document.....the quiet mouse.....really just makes things so much better. Still can't figure out why they put that horrible sound making device in the mouse? Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

Good God man...No wonder you're so miserable. What a horrible way to live. Hey, it's simple, you downgrage, let me know how it works for you and if you look happy I'll give it a shot. But for me, at the moment it's a simple issue....smarter, taller, thinner and hotter. The perfect FU to the X. And as for mom, we three boys had three rules growing up. 1) NO MOMS! 2) NO FAT CHICKS! 3) NO PERSIAN GIRLS! And we take that seriously, that and I don't ever want to sit at the dinner table and look at my other brothers and think "Wait if i had tired a little harder would the girl next to me be as hot as the girls next to them?" FRACK NO! God my finger feels great! Why did they ever put that little freaking in the scroll wheel! It can't be good for your fingers? Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

Yeah RIGHT! Ever play chicken? Well here is my gig, I'm playing chicken but I've hand cuffed myself to the wheel. Due to having a good looking x wife I have to do better than what I had, to prove to her that she was not the best i could do. That and i could never look my mother in the eye if i ever came home with some + sized woman. She would be very very very disappointed in me. And to top it off....yeah I have tried to date larger girls, and engineering and science girls and well......there was just no attraction for me. Not saying that they were bad people but......we just had nothing in common. As such, hope. And good god does that mouse feel good! Quiet as a mouse should be! None of this fracking click click click as I review documents. Now everyone in my office wants me to "mod" their mouse :-) And no I looked around the web and apparently most low end low cost mousses have this horrible feature. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

I think it depends on the girl on how she will see a guy who doesn't want kids. I was even more attracted to my boyfriend when he said he didn't want kids, because I, also, have never wanted kids. If a girl really wants them, she will likely feel turned off by said guy. Again, the number of girls who REALLY do not wish to have kids is rather low! And it's really odd but the good looking skinny ones who know how to dress and carry themselves and make you just want dry hump the table.....well they want access to this stupid "momy" club. And well to have that you need one of these freaking rug rats! It's almost, for these girls who make over $90k, that kids are the must have thing! Like they were shoes or something. Hell if you ask me...I think from the looks of it.....kids are a womans excuse to stop alot of things that her husband or boyfriend likes. Be it her wearing kinky undies, to going to the gym and eating well to.....well sex! Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

Look I'm trying to be good for 30 days! Im not going to be mean to engineers or + sized ladies! Do you know how hard that is!? That's like having a loaded gun and not shooting someone! Or some thing! any how i didn't bring dress size into this, blame the guy above who said something about size 8 girls. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

Track ball....really? God it feeeeeellllllzzzzzzz so good! And quiet! No more click click click click click every time i review a document. What the hell were these people thinking when they made that pesky clicker? I know on a very good day your average engineer is totally out of touch with reality and trying to lick the ass of the nearest size 14 girl........oh better stop that i made a promice......but why did they ever instal that rachet system? It does nothing but make nouse and give you a fracked up finger? Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

A friend and I were talking about this. We call it the Andy Dick effect. When you are at a place where there are 52 very hot girls, even Andy Dick looks like a catch! But say if Any Dick were in any other place where he was one of say 52 guys and there were 2 girls...he would be what he is...an annoying little shit.....trying to swoop and puffing his chest trying to look all "bad ass". Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

I have no clue why but from the catalog we order from all the the mousse have this horrible ratcheting feature on their scroll wheel. Of the 4 I've ordered all seem to have this. So today.....I took matters into my own hand. And now it's quiet.....bighting lip about going off on computer engineers being dorks......not easy but I will do it! Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

pulsatile tinnitus (hearing of heartbeat in ears). I HAD TO GOOGLE THIS! WOW! No kidding! Ah it's loud......for like 1 min. Some people put in hear plugs on the way up. But on the way down....I think most go wide open. Especially if you have an audable. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

Try optical wireless! It's that pesky sound the roller makes ever time you scroll up and down! Now it's whisper quiet! I am A GOD! Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

There is a point where every man decides to take matters into his own hands....and the results are either parts all over the work bench or something....amazing. I KILLED that pesky ratcheting sound my mouse made. One man, two cups of coffee, one salted bagel, one can of red bull, a screw driver, a dozen neodymium magnets a virigin....easy to find in an engineering office and a dead chicken.....and tada! QUIET! I really have no idea what they were thinking when they developed such a horrible design? Yes we will take the quietest piece of equipment on a desk and mate it with a toy infants play with and TADA! A loud mouse that not only grades your nerves but also leaves your finger number after a few minutes of use on multi page excel spread sheets and power points.......I know I said I would be nice to engineers and fat chicks this month but would it be ok if I said that I would love to find the dumb ass who thought up this idea and shoot the control freak engineer square in the nuts...twice! And now back to a quiet mouse! Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

I had a thread about not wanting kids and dating a few months back.....boy did i get some serious attacks on me. That was not fun at all! And I'm actually glad it's long gone. Yet the long and short of it were this; when I was married neither my wife nor I wished to have kids and we received many lectures about how important it was to have kids as well as people just giving us the stink eye for being at peace with our decision. Now that I'm single and dating I've noticed many girls say they don't want to have kids...however they are under amazing peer pressure to reproduce. Kids appear to be the required token needed to gain entry into some odd "club" where there are play dates and other things which I personally don't understand. Now I can care less what people think of me but attractive well educated girls all seem to have this deep desire to fit in and when you are in your late 20's or early 30's kids are a major part of fitting in. Thus getting snipped in a way may limit your ability to be in a long term stable relationship with one of these attractive well educated girls. YES please don't get me wrong there are many women out there who do not wish to have kids, but let's be honest with ourselves that is a very small number of women. Shame there isn't a dating sight just for people who do not wish to have kids. Now here is an interesting question? OK so you get the love canal blocked...where do all your swimmers go when you pop? I mean having the little bastards all lined up can't be good? So what you get perpetual blue balls......kind of like getting married? Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

WELL THAT'S IT We are boned! http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs12/i/2006/333/d/5/Bender_Bending_Rodrigez_by_TheJasmineDragon.jpg Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

Hum......OK...say you had all these girls at your local DZ http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150273720789086.331057.6280019085 (NEVER FRIEND Playboy!) OK one by one these girls are really freaking HOT! But if you had all say 52 of them they would appear to be 52 times less hot...because if one gives you attitude there are another 51 girls to talk to! Right? Why do you think dudes are willing to step over their own mother for a ticket to the Playboy Halloween costume party thing? BUT If there are only 2 girls who looked good and say...there are 52 guys. All of a sudden these girls look 52 times hotter because well, if one shoots you down life is really going to suck. And with what...15% of all skydivers as chicks.....we dudes become the "token" ugly friend. Thus any guy showing up, such as the OP, will look around see all of us dumb asses picking our noses and packing our parachutes and then see two girls and think that they are the hottest thing walking the face of this earth. I think there exists an actual psychological term for this? Though I'm not sure. HOWEVER! For those of us able to elevate above the static, this thread is truly an interesting dissection of DZ drama. Note guy walks on to DZ and notes two to three attractive girls, and his first reaction is to his primitive instincts of "bulking up". My god if you were to study this encounter as if it were baboons mating we would really be no different would we? Puffed up chests, maybe a little loud talking, some chest thumping a few random acts of violence and maybe a few daring acts to show courage. Funny if you sit and really think about it. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

Sure why not. But the OP...interesting. Didn't I put up a thread about students developing crushes on their instructors and some one indicated a number of guys had crushes on their female instructors? This could be that. Funky! Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

Yeah...but well...rubbers are fun! You can get them in all shapes and sizes..... Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

You know what it could be.....and not trying to be rude here....when you have 52 dudes and 2 chicks....well the chicks can be so so but when they are around 52 dudes they tend to "appear" to be better looking. That's why the engineering girls "collect" dudes. And a few girls I know. It's not that they get along better with guys than girls, it's just that well.....ever see a really hot chick and her NOT SO HOT friend. Well her NOT SO HOT friend's job is to make the hotter chick look even HOTTTER! And when there are say 52 dudes those 2 chicks will look 52 times hotter! Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!