BruceSmith

Sorry, Bobby, but your condensed report is crapola. I don't see any substantive proof that corroborates KC as DB. Sure, you prove Bernie is a sleazeball, but so what? Nevertheless, Hollywood might go for it. Or Bollywood? Turn it into a musical? One line caught my eye: "no male crew members were allowed to go aft." WTF does that mean, and Where TF did you get that? Could be a new marketing line for NWO/Delta - We Let Our Women Roam Free!

Ahem, There is another way to look at the Amboy chute kerfuffle, and that is to back-track through the scenarios of what back chutes went aboard Flight 305: Depending on who you would like to believe, here are your options for a back chute aboard "Da Plane, Da Plane!" Cossey: 1. NB-6 with a 26-foot canopy, maybe a C-Something 2. NB-6 with a 28-foot canopy, maybe a C-9 3. NB-8, with a 28-foot canopy, maybe a C-9 3. Pioneer rig with a 26-foot canopy, possibly a Steinthal 4. Paradise, whatever that is, with something, who knows what 5. Paracommander, presumably a 26-foot canopy Hayden: 1. Pioneer, with a 26-foot Steinthal, two delivered, one returned US Government: 1. Two different Military type parachutes (see Bobby's document for details - I refuse to look at it one more time...) Do any of these parachutes resemble the thing found in Amboy? Doesn't sound like it. Hence, the Thing in Amboy ain't the thing we are looking for. Flip side: If the Amboy chute was DB Cooper's, where's everything else, ie: body, money, briefcase, bomb, X-reserve, etc.... Also, has anyone actually talked with the folks who found the Thing in Amboy? I mean, really.

Hi Everyone - I just realized that reading the DZ is like reading the comics. When I get up and get a cup of Joe going, I open up the DZ and read the latest posting from Jo. If she's not there, I get disappointed. She's always original and fresh. And full of mystery and intrigue - it's like Terry and the Pirates from the 1950s. Or Prince Valiant. Bobby, of course, will do in a pinch, but he just repeats himself. If he posts the parachute file one more time, I'm gonna scream! I don't think I'm alone in this. Sail said he does the same thing. We always talk about the DZ when we get together and we had that trip to Oregon a couple of weeks ago. This posts conjures to my mind a recent social meeting - back in NY I get a daily bagel and coffee at my little shop in Stewart Manor. Over the weeks I was there I began talking with a couple of other regulars, including one guy, John, who was always laughing at the daily comics in Newsday. It amazed me because I don't think the current vintage of funnies, is well, funny. But John thinks they are hysterical - just like I did when I was a kid. John also loves quantum physics and we had a great chat one day discussing the Observer Effect and the New Physics.

Shut, do you know exactly where the Amboy chute was found? Meyer and I were continually mis-directed and mis-informed by denizens when we went looking for the property and owner.

Hi Everyone- I'm working on a new angle on the DB Cooper case. Suppose someone very skilled in transmuting time and space went back to November 24, 1971 and visited with DB Cooper in seat 18-E. Let's say it was a journalist trying to figure out who Cooper was, and what happened to him and all the stuff that wasn't found at Reno at 11 pm that night. So DB and this journalist started talking. Cooper saw little things, like short hair, New Balance sneakers, gel pens, and laminated press credentials that were not commonplace in 1971. Cooper turns to the guy and says, "You're from the future, aren't you." Outed, the journalist nods, "Yes." DB Cooper leans back and smiles, "Ah...You're my ticket outta here." Could DB Cooper be hiding in plain site now, in 2014 as a mid-40 year old guy? Would you turn down the opportunity to have your 200K become a cool million? Just sayin'....

1. When Cossey hung up on me, I had just asked him why he had sent his parachutes to Boeing Field and not Sea-Tac. I can't state for a fact WHY Coss hung up, but it may have been because he didn't want to answer such a probing question. 2. When I showed up unannounced at his house, he was already dead. I didn't think it would be a problem. Again, I was acting as a journalist. Lastly, the Bigger Question is, don't you want to know why Coss sent his chutes to the wrong airfield? And the related Biggest Question is, why didn't anyone ask him that before, such as the FBI???? Don't you want to know the answers to these kinds of questions? Anyone? Can I get an Amen! ABOVE IS THE POST BRUCE SMITH MADE WITH HIS OWN STATEMENTS REGARDING COSSEY. I DID NOT IMAGINE THE POSTING AND I DID NOT ACCUSE HIM OF MURDER - HE DID THAT ALL BY HIMSELF! BRUCE MADE HIMSELF A SUSPECT WITH HIS OWN POST -JO WEBER - HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. READ WHAT HE WROTE! WHEN ONE GET TOO COCKY THEY CAN HANG THEMSELVES! I HAVE SPENT THE LAST 5 HOURS TRYING TO FIND WHERE I MADE THE STATEMENT I AM ACCUSED OF MAKING - I DID NOT FIND IT. IT WAS SOMETHING BRUCE OR SOMEONE ELSE STATED...NOT JO! I AM SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN ASLEEP HOURS AGO! Yup, Cossey was dead when I showed up at his house in Woodinville. According to the Medical Examiner's report he had been dead for several days. I showed up on a Saturday, and Coss was murdered on Tuesday night, it is now believed. Coss' daughter found her father on Friday. Like most journalists, I showed up unannounced at the crime scene. It's what we do. Jo, KIRO-TV interviewed me at Coss' house. Did you see it? 377 did, and he said he liked my take on DB Cooper "flying right over us."

Not to worry, R-Nine-Nine. Semper Fi.

Yup. It is amazing. Thanks for the pro bono offer, too, even though I'm sleeping fine. But I did have a strange dream last night of Phyllis Diller and my mother roasting marshmallows with me around a campfire. But at least I was warm! Merry Christmas, y'all.

Update on Coss: I'm still walkin' in the land o' the free and home o' the brave, in case any of youse was wondering. I guess the authorities are waiting until after the holidays to explore Mrs. Cooper's accusations and wonderings.

Nope. Not me. I just have information that differs from you. You are an absolutist - you like everything Black or White. Me, I'm more a many shades of gray kind of guy. Maybe that's why I'm such a chick magnet....

Read it? I STOLE it, Dude. Before the feds knew it was gone. I bet I even read it before you did....nah, nah, nah, nah.... Oh, by the way, Norm says he never talked with the FBI about the chutes even though your (the FBI) docs say their information in the docs came from him. In addition, when I read the doc to Norm, he was agast with all the factual errors. Didn't you read that in the Mountain News? You should go back and re-read it. You'll probably learn something. One more thing - if you had ever gone to the Cooper exhibit at the WSHM you would have seen my pix of the rigging card from Norm's chute. The WSHM posted my pix, and even gave me a credit on it. Of course, Meyer Louie had to bust their ass on giving me accreditation, but they were very speedy about, which I appreciated. Ya know, Bob, you really miss a lot of good stuff by not showing up at DB Cooper events. Pissing contests are fun. I'm having a blast. You?

Not exactly. When I showed up at Coss' house it was the Saturday morning after he had been killed on Tuesday evening according to the ME. Technically, I didn't show up unannounced because I had called his wife, Debbie, beforehand to get her statement on the murder, but she hung up on me, saying, "We're not talking to media right now." Your canard about me being there at any other time is spurious. In fact, I only knew that Cossey had died from emails I received from folks at the DZ. Hence, I was a day late to the party, so to speak, as most of the major media outlets had been at Cossey's on Friday. In fact, when I showed up I was the only news reporter there, which changed dramatically within the hour. By the way, KIRO put me in their news cast on Cossey. Did you see me? Whatcha think?

Is Jo a public figure? If Jo is a public figure she can not dictate who can say what about her. If she is deemed a private citizen, she has a right to privacy that can only be breached by her consent. So, if Jo posts 1,000 words a day for years about her life with Duane Weber in a public forum, does that make her a public figure? I say "Yes." Especially since what she is writing about is her husband's alleged confession to committing a major felony, and one that has attracted a lot of public attention, including being the topic of the most popular chat room at the DZ, numerous movies, TV segments, and is an established cultural icon. In fact, she has appeared in some of those documentaries, reportedly (by her!).

Nope. Larry Carr posted right here in the DropZone explicitly stating that Cossey owned the parachutes. How come you don't know that, Robert?

Thanks Robert Ninety-Nine! smile...

1. When Cossey hung up on me, I had just asked him why he had sent his parachutes to Boeing Field and not Sea-Tac. I can't state for a fact WHY Coss hung up, but it may have been because he didn't want to answer such a probing question. 2. When I showed up unannounced at his house, he was already dead. I didn't think it would be a problem. Again, I was acting as a journalist. Lastly, the Bigger Question is, don't you want to know why Coss sent his chutes to the wrong airfield? And the related Biggest Question is, why didn't anyone ask him that before, such as the FBI???? Don't you want to know the answers to these kinds of questions? Anyone? Can I get an Amen!

Jo, you have to realize that I am not like you. I am not here for the same reasons as you are. I am here for my professional pursuits, and you appear to be on a personal quest. For those reason, I believe, you are treated much differently here than I am. You can bash anyone you like, for as long as you like, in any manner that you choose. I have a different standard of conduct that others expect me to uphold. Those metrics are often viewed subjectively by others, which is why I have been placed on ice from time-to-time. Yet, you haven't despite wishing me bodily harm and charging me with murders, stalking, and other crimes. Funny, in a lot of ways you remind me of Sister Augustine in 7th grade. She loathed me. She used to say I was "as bold as a brass monkey." Not sure what that means, but it certainly was her way of saying, "cut that shit out."

Yup. You betcha. It's called journalism, Jo. As I have posted here many times, I am a journalist and when you talk with me or send emails, you are communicating with a journalist. That means everything you tell me is useable in a piece of journalism. That is why I identify myself at the beginning of every interview, and carry credentials and wear a laminate. If you would like to talk with me off-the record, you have to indicate that, and afterwards I will let you know if I want to talk with you under those circumstances. Typically, though, I do send drafts of my writing to the people involved for them to edit for accuracy, or to let me know if anything is too hotsy-totsy for them to live with. If something I have written is shown to be inaccurate, I will change it. With the stuff that makes people uncomfortable I will explore other options, but that road is very steep and rarely taken. When I posted Bill's piece I invoked the legal term, "silence implies consent." Not sure of the actual Latin term. Just Googled it: Qui tacet consentiret

For the 900 or so people who will read this statement in the next week or two, let me clarify, and state what I know to be the truth. 1. In November I asked Vicki to send Bill my contact information. She did. 2. Bill called me in December, left a message with his phone number and I called him back. 3. We had a wonderful chat for about 45 minutes, and agreed to meet the following week for a beer and to continue the conversation. 4. I wrote up a draft of the interview and sent it to Vicki to send to Bill because I didn't have Bill's email address. 5. I didn't hear back from Bill, so I posted it on the Mountain News and on Shutter's site. 6. Bill called me two days later and left another message, this time saying that he didn't want to meet with me, didn't want me to contact him, and wanted nothing more to do with anyone from the DB Cooper case. 7. He stated clearly that his turn-around was due to receiving a nasty email from Jo, and he wanted no more of that kind of interaction, so he shut down everything. 8. I have not contacted Bill since then, and have refused numerous calls for his contact information.

Kissy-Kissy? Sounds like an interesting guy. Tell us more....

Vicki Wilson is an honorable woman. She does not deserve to be wracked over the coals as she has been here in the above posts. Her story is correct. Bill Mitchell called me, and gave me his phone number. I still do not have his email address. In fact, I had to send the draft copy of our interview to Bill via Vicki.

Ah, I feel the love. Bobby, such a deal! It must be Christmas. BTW R99, my first acting job was to be a shopping mall Santa. So, I believe.

Happy Hanukkah, everyone. It's 4:41 pm and I just looked outside - it's pitch black! We sure are in the time-of-the-long-night here. Coupled with the rain and fog, it is darker than dark. Thank Gawd we have Christmas lights up everywhere - And the eight candles of Channukah. By the way, I asked my ex, who is the former president of her shul, last year how to spell Hanukkah, and she said that there are a variety of spellings. It reminds me of what she would say at other times of Judaic confusion: "Two Jews, three opinions." It reminds me of Bobby - One man, many stories.

The miracles are stackin' up, Bobby. 1. Getting in a pickle on your motorcycle in Cave Junction, OR, flying through the air and landing in a ditch, but no significant injuries. 2. Three days at sea - but within sight of land - paddling an inflatable kayak to the island off the coast of the Quinault area. Kayak deflates partially but you keep going.... 3. Four weeks trapped in a tent in the northern Cascades, underneath a few feet of snow with only a dozen packets of hot cocoa powder to consume. 4. A couple days stranded in a lean-to in the environs of the William O Douglas Wilderness area, slipping down the slope endlessly because it was so wet and icy, but finally.... On the other hand, we have another poster here driving to Seattle from Colorado for a business conference but her hubby stops off at The Dalles to dig in the dirt for six hours, then he stops along the Columbia at a few locations, then Tina Bar, then the hills around Camas, WA, then the walkway at the Red Lion Inn, then to Seattle pointing out landmarks off the I-5. Afterwards, they head down to Bend, Oregon on the way to Reno, stopping first at Sandy Point/Hills/River, OR. When they get back to Colorado they move to Alabama because the money was found at Tena Bar, but they know it's really Tina Bar, and the wife says that during the above trip her husband left her for a few hours one day and may have gone to Gresham, OR, where another Tina was located. The Vortex is strong.

It could happen. November was NaNoWriMo. (National Novel Writing Month, in which you do a book in 30 days or less in November) Maybe she just went non-fiction.