JerryThomas

377 Cooper was a Person with mininal Info No experience a strong desire for money. Little preparation. And just enough knowledge to get him into a situation for trouble and cause his death Bottom Line. Jerry Ps. I'm answering post made at least 10 threads ago. So Let's do this! If you have a question that you asked a week ago and you still want a answer ,Please ask it again. I will try to answer it tonight. If I have time I will try to answer more tommorrow. Post only for Tom Kay. Tom. Not good Revise. Jerry

Just made contact with the fazio's. Today I will have all info tomorrow. Am that you requested Geoger.Jerry

Snowmman. Your right. Jerry

Snowmmann.Your right.How ever this was not true before Mt ST Helens Erupted In the early 80's silt enterd into the columbia river causing flow change's .Jerry

My Comment was not directed at you. Vancouver lake does not flow into the columbia River anywhere near Tina's bar, All I meant was that it was stupid to think that the money could have came from Vancouver Lake Or the lewis River. My research has proven this. If you would like , Please contact the army Corps of Enginers. Or contact the City Of Vancouver. and verify it, for your self. Nothing in my last post was directed at you.I did not mean it to seem that way. The Post was meant, Only for Info. Sorry if you took it the wrong way.I'll be more carefull next time. Jerry

Snowmman:Vancouver lake, back in that time frame was shallow and nothing more than a sesse pool. When it was decided to drain the lake and deepen it, all material was put into the center of the lake .I talked to the contracter's. There statement was , nothing from the lake could have flowed into the columbia River, that would have allowed any debris to land on tina's bar. Further more the Army corps of engineers and the hydrologist verified this.Any Theory involving Vancouver Lake or the lewis River is to say the least stupid.Could not happen.Jerry

To All: Got the message.I will calm down and make no more derogatory comment's that would be directed at anyone. I have forgotten my place in the natural order of thing's.I will however answer as many question's that I can.I will keep all of you informed on any finding's that I come up with, and welcome any sugestion's, any of you may present.I will continue to research and search any area that is presented.Those of you that do not uderstand why you monitor this Forum.Well I guess it's just away of either getting your point across or curiousity.Maybe it is just plain fun.I don't realy Know, Each individual must decide that for themselve's. Jerry

Snowmman. What matter's is that. Alot of people view documentaries. They read magazines. If some one has Info that could help this case and see or read bogus info they will not come forward.They will asume the case is solved.This present's problems. Let's take for instance. The green River killer he was Identified year's before his arrest. But at the time the technoligy with DNA was not Developed .They were steered in many direction's !Why! . Because so many people wanted to be involved and made false alligation's for 15mins of fame. Many more young woman died.Because of fabrcater's .There was so much Info that led into the wrong direction . It took alot of time and money to filter through it. most, of it was false alegation's.This caused delay's . Any time you take a Investigation of any nature ,And side track it. Like Jo has, you loose valuble witnesses and time. Publishishing of any Info is critical. To any Investigation,the efect's Is astronomical. Look at the Forum. For a long period of time most of you thought that Jo had a valid point,Why! because there is now oposition.Now the truth is being told. And all of you can make your own Judgement's.Jerry make your own judgements.

Snowmman . The comment was just To say At the very least a comment. Ir could have happened. Ouchhhhh

Jo you have alway's understood. All you have ever done is use Info from book's to your advantage. Since you and Doug Pasternick got togrther and he published his article.You had no ground's for your claim's.Believe me you still don't. You never will. Take for instance Your first conversation with me was that Duane pointed out to you, as you crossed the cowitz River,on I-5 and said that is where cooper hid the money. And that you could not remember what Bridge you crossed to enter Washington . however you did remember it was in Portland and no stop's were made. So where does, this lead us . Are you going to call Ralph again and have him ,Tell me not to be mean to you(again) or are you going to except reality. It's up to you .You can be a part of this case and help solve it. Your tactic's must Change.All you have done is waist time and Government money with your alligation's. You have even caused havoc with many government official's. All this time you have known the truth involving your claim's. Why! 15 minutes of fame is not worth this deception. Now I can say that I don't understand what would make a muture adult to react like this.Jo I like you, I do understand that you need attention. If you just want to talk and feel Important please , Just call I will be happy to talk to you. Get the message. I hope you do, it's been 15yrs.I realy hope you will face fact's and not build/ Fabricate anymore fantisies Remember! I Know you and have for years.Jerry

Snowmman. Yes it would be kind of hard to walk around with a fir tree up your butt, Or your feet frozen. In November the streams hadn't been water to long The water temperture is just above freezing in this area. Your feet go numb and your body temperture drop's.Hyperthermia sets in. Then with the ambuliant tempertutre combined. This causes paralises and you go to sleep then Die.Jerry

Snowmann. Sorry far not responding sooner.I was on the phone.Yes jumper's broke a few bone's.However they still had a landing site and a route, Call it escape and evasion or in some case's retragrade.Not many jump's were made in Nam.It did hapen and the Hallo jumps were dangerious.Foot gear is the most important part of survival. How ever in nam the temperture would allow you to travel with out to much damage to the feet.Bare in mind that this is not the only element you would have to over come.Many other's did exist.As far as Cooper case is concerned he was not aware of the inviroment or did not realize that air flow would rip his shoe's off.Still he had alot of gut's but no common sense.Now your question on shoes being a primary issue. This is common knoeledge. No Shoe's No Travel.The conditions he landed in was very hostille. Richard McCoy landed in the desert and broke his ankle. Do you think that cooper would not have broke something . At the very least he would have had a Fir tree Inemia. Jerry

Orange 1. Believe me. The name has been researched.For both Theorys.Now as far as the Viet Nam Vet theory goes. Any military man know's not to jump out of a plane with loafer,s They also know it is important to survival to have good foot gear, because with out your feet your chance's of survival drop's into the honey pot.This is why it is believed that he wasn't a Vet. Jerry

Snowmman. No I'm not saying I just followed stream's. I have searched beyound that spectrim when possible. However it is not very often that you can .Jerry

Geoger. Could he have Tied it to him.Probably Wouldn't you, to keep evidence from being discovered .Think about It The brief case was closed Do your test I have already done this with many brief case's. Give it a shot. Jerry

Snowmman In regards To Shelly! You may find this odd but she was in the wood's with me.Do you Know where the the washougal moter cycle (dirt bike) track is. They hold National race's there. This track is directly adjacent to Shellys Parents home. well was before,both passed away recently.At any rate this track is only 5,Miles from the begining of search area.Shelly spent years with me in the woods.She also was involved in most of the documentary's and on site during all of them .She spent a lot of her time in the wood's with me.And still does. When I can get her away from her animal's( 1Donkey 3 Sheep 3 Horses,10 Rabit's,5 Dog's, 2 beta fish 1 cat, plus the turkey's.Jerry

Snowmman. I think that I have not clarified one thing.The search area, I use is within 300yrd's from any stream. Any further than that would be a waist of time.The only way ( according to my theory)would be a waist of time the terain in this area only alows for any object to be pushed to a stream/gullyThere is alot of steep cliff's. Most of them are litered with big boulder's. So the search is cut in time because of the terain.Jerry

Snowmman.With all do respect you are wrong. Remember this area is full of steep cliff's and scree chutes mountainous terain . Most of the area can be traveled by streams the rest can Not. If you will take the time to join me for 1 hour you will understand. Better yet ask those that have doubted me recently. It does apear on a map that you can travel in all directions.Not going to happen.Jerry

WoW!your name is long.So with your permission I'll just call you Grin's. Anyway 20 yys ago a man by the name of Johnson found Skelitical remain's in the search area( North fork Washougal)Johnson was a guide for bear hunter's. He's a friend of ny brother's.What he found was the remain's of a pilot that had crashed back in the 1930's.The search for this pilot went on for month's.Now bear in mind back then they did not have the technolgy we have now.Years later Johnson found the remain's. I was asked to go to this site by the Skamainia county Sherrif Dept. to research this find.The remains proved to be of the pilot. Still all this prove's is that things can be obscured in This Invirement for Years. It is no easy task to search any area. the elements can be tasking, However I will continue to search . Jerry

SchlitznGrins.I have covered 75%of the area. Bear in mind that the area I have covered is the area I or, the drop zone most people believe, Cooper landed in. Most of the terain ,I have covered. Was due to people like Jo saying they were sure there lead's would solve this case> however the past 4yrs. I have been searching the area's I believe Cooper landed in. Hindsight! I should have followed my insticts, years ago.Back then I did not Know what I do now.What I have done is ( with a lot of help from scholars) is used comon sense. My first impression was to follow every one else's lead. Now I no better and have researched the entire case from the ground up.I Am the only person that can say, I no more about this case than anyone.I have given the New FBI agents on this case alot of advice and directed them on who to contact for Info. Take for instance. When a parachute was found a littile over ayear ago I directed Larry Carr to the aproppriate sources.So the chute could be Identified. Larry did folow my sugestion. This led to the fact that the chute was not a Cooper Artifact.There is many thing's I have contributed to this case. How ever don't take me wrong.The Key Player's in this case is still The FBI and there Retired Agent's. Jerry

Bruce. Snowmman or georger can help you.So can Jo. Myself I'm lucky to even get my computer to turn on.Thank god for Shelly. After 23yrs she still helps me. the good thing is that she still feels that I am her stud(humor).All I can tell you is hit the power button and pray that it works Jerry

Jo Made up stories will not get you anywhere. Please explain to all why you do this.Or post the evindence that you say you have .Or is it just stories like the ones you have come up with in the past. Jo I have checked every place you have requested.I have researched every theory you have presented.I have spent time money and endless hour's to help you in your quest.But to no avail.I continue to do so just so you can be happy. Why? I don't know . maybe it is because some one in my past Slapped me stupid. Jerry

Jo. How many first times do you need.The brief case would have floated for an exstended period of time.and would have been spotted.The problem is ,it wasn't. It is still a mistery as to what happened to it. I believe Cooper took it with him when he jumped. Why? Because in order for him to make the bomb there could have been evindence left behind.For instance the manufacture and the place the brief case was sold. Items like this is massed produced. They can be traced to the buyer. The contents of the case was believed to be road flaires. These are masseed produced in Lot's.They can also be traced to the buyer.Whether Cooper purchased these Items or not, They could be traced back to the purchaser.Then lead to the present owner.Jerry

Geoger:Brillant this is good Info. I will follow through on this. This info is the best I have recieved in 20yrs.Jerry

SchlitznGrins.No Tom does not believe the theory that nat geo aired.His exact words to me was maybe there could be a 1percent chance that this theory could be correct.But this case even baffles him.Tom may have made a mistake. He is aware of this.However he promisses to share any new finding's with the Forum.Humble pie has been his meal since the airing of the nat geo documantary.Trust me he is sincere.Orange 1 you had a lot of people worried.Please remember that people do worry about you. Don't let it happen again.Just a request!(consider your but chewed/ counseled)Glad your safe and back home.Jerry