Gravitymaster

Check the CBO Budget and its analyses. This whole imaginary situation of yours is... imagined. Its amazing how important debates denigrates itself to these ridiculous comparisons instead of using past real-life experiments and/or studies. Check Massachusetts and how RomneyCare fared. You'l be surprised how well it did. Cheers! Shc I hear you running your mouth but I don't hear you saying anything.

imagine 2 Houses. One is a modern home, built well with fire alarms, burglar alarms, built to modern building code with all non-flamable materials. Now take an old broken down home made of rotted old wood, no smoke detectors, no burglar alarm, trash strewn around everywhere, crappy ols oil furnace that smoke when it get hot and has to be turned off so it doesn't overheat. Now suppose you live in the first house and are paying $1000 per year for insurance. The old rickety house's owner pay $5000 per year. Suddenly, a new law is passes and your insurance company sends you a notice of an increase in the premium of $3000 per year. You scream and bitcha and call your insurance company and tell them you want to know why the rate has tripled over night. They calmly tell you it's because the guy in the rickety old house and others like him can't afford the premium and so a new law was passed to give the owners of home that are run dow "equal access" to insurance. So you get pissed off and start calling every insurance company you can find and they all tell you the same rate and explain that this new law is to give those homeowners in older homes that are falling apart the same "equal access" that you have. And as an added benefit, the new insurance is going to pay for anything that goes wrong with the house, So if the A/C goes out, the insurance pays to replace it. If the lawn mower breaks, you get a new one. But now that you have a new lawn mower and a new furnace and AC, the government wants you to keep the thermostat at a certain temperature in winter and summer and to insure you do, they are requireing you to have a thermostat that the government controls. You will alsp have to mow the grass when it gets to a certain height and since the govt. gave you the new mower, you are now required to take your glass clippings to a state approved recycling site. When you are dropping off the cuttings, they want to perform emmission checks on your car and also want to make sure it't tuned up correctly. What would your reaction be.

And let's not forget it does not contain tort reform. many feel the government has no business controlling every aspect of our lives. i also am very wary of the potential slippery slopes socialized medicine opens up.

so how many DEA agents should die before RWCs can get outraged? It's a bit sad that this was the first use of executive privilege by Obama. Seems simple - they fucked up, Holder lied about it and got caught in the lies. Time to come clean. I won't miss him. Let's bring on the next rights trampling AG to continue the sad chain of the past 20 years. Heck, what's a few dead DEA and Border Patrol Agents in the bigger scheme of things?

Well, you have no way of knowing that. Sure I do. I'll just ask the live ones. You ask the dead ones and we will compare notes.

Another option would be to carry the baby to full term, allow it to be born, and then put it up for adoption. Sure beats killing it. 10 out of 10 babies would agree.

The topic is running guns to drug dealers. I know your ilk finds it hard to discuss the topic at hand since there's really no defense as hard as you try. But let's go ahead and play your ADHD based game. How many people died because FDR got us into a war? Did FDR let Pearl Harbor occur because he knew that would garner support from Americans? How many innocent Japanese died because HST dropped the atom bomb on 2 cities. See how stupid and non-sequitur that sounds?

Narcissism does create a blind spot, doesn't it?

What proof of identification does your State require before issuing a drivers license?

Since you mention it, the operation began in 2006 when the OLD BOSS was president. Best commentary I've seen. So how come all you ODS victims weren't complaining about it in 2006? How many border agents died as a result of Bush running operation Wide Reciever?

Yep, how quickly they forget all the 9/11 conspiracies, Katrina, War for Oil, Blood for Oil, Bush lied, Bush is a Cokehead, on and on and on.......ad nauseum.

It appears that it's OK to deny supporters the use of a plastic forks during a fund raiser but OK to provide violent drug dealers AK's. Go figure!!

I can assure you any woman with that attitude isn't going to be married for very long. A woman that puts his feeling aside and won't consider them in her decision is likely a shrew and not worthy of his affection anyway. Except of course some of the really desperate, needy wimps who will let any woman walk all over them.

Sucks doesn't it? At least he will remain in jail where he doesn't have access to children.

I really wonder sometimes what world some people live in. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_a_President_(2006_film)

You've got to be shitting me. Not one bit. I haven't seem the disgusting, vile hatred displayed for Obama as it was for Bush. I haven't seem movies about Obama being assassinated. I haven't seen movies where they used Obamas head on a stake. I haven't seen the personal attacks on his children. I think Clinton was attacked much more than Obama has been. The mainstream press has been solidly behind Obama, unlike they were for Bush. Where are the daily updates about the number of US troops dying in Afghanistan? Where is the relentless, daily attacks from the mainstream media?

Well, I did google it before I posted, and no dice. So I'll draw my own conclusion about their existence. Do I have to do everything for you? Clean up and zip up when you are done, please. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er8kO-d0nyM

I'm sure a tech-savvy nerd like you could find them if you tried. If I found them for you, it wouldn't be a learning experience. The point is the level of discourse with Obama pales in comparison to the personal attacks launched against Bush. They even made a movie about him being assassinated.

I don't get all of this about Christians shoving their religion down peoples throats. I never experienced this. Most Christians I know or have met have been pretty respectful. On the rare occasion one has gotten a little carried away, a simple "lets not discuss religion or politics" was sufficient to change the subject. I don't doubt that many get a little over enthusiastic at times but certainly a lot less than most skydivers, gushing about jumping.

And I find it hard to believe you believe what you do considering the post that have been made here during the 44th Administration. Certainly nothing nearly as full of vitriol and hate as the 8 years of Bush. Remember the photos of Bush being sexually assaulted by OBL and the posters who thought that was funny?

Using this site as an example of society in general, it's hard to believe you could think that way after reading DZdotcom during the Bush Presidency.

We don't need UAV's. We will just ship them AK's and blame it on ineffective gun laws.

Your failing memory speaks for itself. Show where I've stated my views on abortion. That should about cover your normal weaseling.

Only 50% if we go by this standard.

I certainly wouldn't trust a (theoretically) celibate Catholic priest or bishop with that decision. However, it really isn't any of my business, OR YOURS EITHER, what a woman does with her own body. If she was pregnant with my child it would be. Just how many women have you knocked up, to make it generally your business to dictate what women do with their bodies? Pretty cold-hearted to make such a statement. Of course it's my business. She may have the legal right to make the ultimate decision but to say it's none of the males business shows a pretty startling disregard for a mans emotions. This thread isn't specifically about you and the women you have knocked up. It is about the general attack on women and their control over their own bodies by busybodies like you. You obviously have no idea what my views on abortion are or you wouldn't make such a blatantly ignorant statement. But I forget how you like to pigeon-hole people. It makes life easier and less stressful when you can think inside a box. Perhaps next time you should know what you are talking about before you insert your foot in your mouth.