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EDIT: Sluggo asks... And yet...that chute hasn't a hole in it, even though it was buried (if you believe the FBI version) since 1945/46. That is 63 years. Source please. No... I mean where did you get the idea that the chute had been burred for 63 years. I don't know of anyone who has made such a statement. Were talking about kids finding an item uncovered when Dad was gradeing a driveway, not archeology.

RobertMBlevins said: [Emphasis mine] Source please. RobertMBlevins said: Kudos to you Robert. I believe in giving credit where credit is due, you are doing the right thing. Also, kudos for some of the “eating crow” statements you made a while back. Again, you did the right thing and retracted incorrect statements. I’ll buy you a beer at the Ariel Store Event next year. RobertMBlevins said: Ever consider that Himmelsbach might be wrong? One is a retired FBI Agent, certainly an expert in his field (in this case NORJAK). The other is an expert skydiver, rigger, with a grunge of experience and the guy who packed (and owned) Cooper’s chute. He is certainly an expert in regard to Cooper’s chute. Maybe we could arrange to have “The Battle of the Experts”. Anybody know a good promoter? RobertMBlevins said: [Emphasis mine] I communicate with Galen frequently and I have criticized him for two major things. Going on CTC AM and posting about “The Janet Story”. I think it hurts his credibility. But, what he has said and done, is fundamentally the same things as you have said and done. Both of you have drawn the curve, then plotted the points that fit, while discarding those that don’t. Neither of you have my vote for “Scientific Investigator of the Year”. I’m not qualified to vote for “Book Seller of the Year”, so I can’t speak to that. What happened here (on this thread) last night? I made couple of post about Scott not ever going back to talk to Cooper and the next thing I know there are a bunch of posts retracted and edited with one referencing some link I posted. This: I don’t recall posting any links (yesterday). Then there was a string of post that didn’t make a whole lot of sense. Anyway it’s good to know that all is normal in the “tiny kingdom”. Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

I found this on some guy named Sluggo’s web site: No one from the cockpit ever left it until they reached Reno. Authority: Table of Authorities #5 #5 – Transcript of Flight Crew Communications. This consists of information from a transcription of communication between Northwest Flight 305 and Northwest SEA Flight Ops, SEA Approach Control, SEA Ground Control, SEA Air Route Traffic Control Center (ARTCC), Oakland ARTCC and the Reno, NV Airport Traffic Control Center (ATCT). This transcript was supplied by the FBI. I don’t know if this Sluggo guy knows what he’s talking about or not, but that’s what he says. He said he talked to some guys at the FBI and they confirmed it, but who knows? As I said; “Who ya gonna believe? Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

Rataczak never laid eyes on Cooper. Neither did Scott or Anderson. They maybe (just maybe) could have seen the money as it was being loaded onto the AirStairs, but I doubt it. If Tina told me it was in a canvas bag with leather handles, I would believe it. But... the guy at the bank that packed it and the guy (in Alabama) who made it, said it was a "sack" with no handles and no closure. Who ya gonna believe? Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

Quade said: Well… I’m not so sure about the year, month, day, and hour. Look at (FBI) page 149 of the transcripts. You will see that Jack Graves , Assistant Chief, Seattle-Tacoma Tower, who supervised the reproduction of the transcript, affirms that it is a true copy of the original recording. If you look closely you will also see that the period covered by this transcript is from approximately 00:11 GMT to approximately 01:05 GMT on November 24th, 1971. Hmmm… That would be 16:11 to 17:05 PST on November 23rd, 1971, a day earlier than the hijack occurred. My point? All documents, all reports, all articles, even ones from impeccable sources (in this case the FBI) are full of errors… human errors. Placing unyielding faith and any one document surrounding NORJAK without attempting to reconcile it against other documents and common sense is an approach that leads to less clarity rather than more clarity. Just IMHO, from one who has been starring at this shit for about 35-years and has dedicated his efforts to add clarity (i.e. separate the facts from the myths). Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

Will do. Sluggo Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

Fixed. Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

Thanks, I will correct. Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

RobertMBlevins said: According to UM he was out on bail in September 1971 when he skipped. EVikiW, You probably know this already but in 1955 – 1957 there was a couple living in Janesville, WI by the name of Mr. and Mrs. Melvin Wilson. They were very active in a Baptist Church in Juda (near Janesville). He was chairman of the music committee and a member of the choir (you said your dad liked to sing). I have tried to locate the church, but it must not exist today. I believe his last arrest was in Janesville. I’ll let you know if I find out more. Also, I know you posted some photos here, I just don’t know which ones. Since I captured a few from the UM video to use if I decide to include Mel on my web-page I’ll post a few here. Maybe it’ll trigger a memory in someone. Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

EVickiW said: I have been thinking about adding her dad to my “I Am D B Cooper” page. In doing the research, I discovered the $200,000 is incorrect. The number published in newspaper articles at the time the money was found (Spring of 1971) was $500,000 to $1M. I guess there are as many myths surrounding the Melvin Luther Wilson case as there are around the DB Cooper case. Does anyone have any published information that supports the $200,000 claim? Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

No! No! I wasn't talking about you... I was talking about me! Believe me... If I had something never published or new... I'd post it in a millisecond. Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

Busted! Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

Ever play Whack-a-Mole? That’s like reading this thread. Up pops two of the worse trolls I think I have ever seen on the Inter-Tube, Quade (the one with the thankless job) whacks them, I breathe a sigh of relief, sure that it is now safe to go back into the water, and then Jerry and Jo start their bickering again. Does it ever end? What happened to the good ole days? The Amboy chute find, Brian Ingram selling his “DB Bucks”. Even, making fun of the NatGeo piece about the money traveling upriver? I challenge each an every poster to post one “new or never-published” factoid about NORJAK and get at least three posters to comment on it without making derogatory statements. If you guys won’t or can’t do this, I’m gonna go and sit in some church basement, drink coffee, and say: Sluggo: “Hello… my name is Sluggo and I’m a Cooperholic.” Group: “Hello Sluggo” Sluggo: I haven’t posted anything new on DZ.com is 6-months.” Bob: “That’s bullshit Sluggo… You posted last week using a sock-puppet account!” Sarah: “Yeah Sluggo… you are fat, ugly, and if you brain was in a J-Bird it would fly backwards”. Jim: “You’re lying and mentally unstable. Why don’t you just piss up a rope?” Sluggo: Oh! My! Gawd! I can’t escape! This has to be hell…….. Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

Jo, I'm not sure what you were asking, but here's where the number is currently located. (See attachment) Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

SKYWHUFFO, I’ve never seen an episode of Lost, and I have no idea who Rupert and Richard are. So, I don’t know if that was a compliment or a slam. Sugar watched every episode of the first couple of seasons and one of my daughters probably watched every episode ever aired. I don’t have time for drama and fiction, I read this thread instead. Oh! Wait a minute! This thread is FULL of drama and fiction! My God! I could have been watching Lost! Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

RobertBlevins said: Hmmmmm? I thought ALL airlines with "represented" [bargining unit/union] employees used the "Seniority/Bid" system of crew assignment. I guess NWA (Northwest Orient) was the one exception. Boy! You're sure good at this research stuff! Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

JamieCooper said: I said I wouldn't "Feed the troll," but here is some troll food. "Delta Dawn" has been recorded by a number of C&W artists: Tanya Tucker (1972), Hellen Reddy (1973), Bob Luman, Loretta Lynn, the Statler Brothers, Waylon Jennings, Kitty Wells, Dottie West, Teresa Brewer and Scott Walker. So, which recording were you listening to? Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

No, I'm not sure, in fact I'm sure they aren't correct. I was in a hurry and wrote it on a napkin. What I wrote on the napkin was 47-deg, it should have been 45. Sorry about that. Now I have to read the 100 or so post that have been made since I left. I guess Galen "stirred something up." I'm anxious to read what all have to say. Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

47.717894, -122.759524 [WGS84] N 47 43.074, W 122 45.571 [WGS84] N 47 43 04.42, W 122 45 34.29 [WGS84] [UTM] 10T E 518036 N 5284974 Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

Quade said: quade, You know I have always been supportive of your moderation decisions even when I disagreed with them. This issue is no different. However, I fear that your quote above is not only “declarative” but “prophetic.” Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

SKYWHUFO Said: I know the moderation of this (and all other) DZ.com thread is not a democracy and posters don’t get to vote on “who’s in and who’s out.” Also, I think I am the one that snowmman (with 2-Ms) irritated the most with his off-the-wall foolishness. But, if I did have a vote, I’d vote for a pardon with probation. Frankly, with snowmman gone and georger gone, this thread has taken a nose-dive (IMHO). So quade, in the words of John Lennon, all we are saying is; “Give -peace- snowmman a chance!” Please! Huh! Please, please. PLEEEESSEE! Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

RobertBlevins said: I don’t EVEN want into this discussion, but, I’m compelled to point out that you (Robert) show that you have done little or no research. You just make assumptions. They weren’t from the Northwest, they had just arrived from Oklahoma (a few weeks prior). If fact Brian’s dad was arrested and taken back (to OK) on an outstanding warrant. It is these “inconsequential” issues that destroy your credibility. I know… I know… You’re just doing this as a sideline… bet I always say “In for a penny… In for a pound!” Just my read on why no one takes your book(s) or you seriously. Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

RobertBlevins said: Do ya really think so? Ya think that CaretakerAL (a screen name used elsewhere by Knoss) says the same things as ole “Crazy Bob”? The trolls have crawled out from underneath the bridge and invaded every DB Cooper thread they can. I don’t understand it! I don’t know why they do it! I realize that they have the same right to post here as I do, and I would not want to change that, but what do they get from it? Troll behavior is as big a mystery to me as NORJAK! Once again, I’ll repeat my approach to these annoying little creatures; “Do not feed the trolls, when un-fed they finally find another thread to inhabit!” Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

First: Welcome! Second; I'm sure you have some proof (or at least evidence) for your assertions. Please share them with this thread. Because of some other posters, we have a low tolerance for innuendo. Let us hear more. Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum

377 Said: Impotent? A victim? Insecure? Wealthier A resident of California, Massachusetts, Connecticut or New York City? Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum