Coreece

No fair...that's just too funny! Pointless, but funny! Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

Do you think Ron here is a true christian? Ya, but if he were to kill 77 people I just might have my doubts... But getting angry at someone is committing murder, so we are told. You're right! Oh, wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

There it is again... ya, we don't wanna insult them for the sake of public safety, but we'll insult them by saying they fucked up their life, they'll fuck it up again, they're delusional and believe in some imaginary friend.... You guys are too much, seriously...where's the hidden camera, eh...where is it? *looks around for hidden camera* Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

Um...I think you just did. Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

Do you think Ron here is a true christian? Ya, but if he were to kill 77 people I just might have my doubts... Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

Unfortunately enough, the pleasure, apparently, is all mine... I'm not familiar with that...Is it some type of contemporary commentary on the Tao Te Ching? Well, there is an account for when Jesus, as a young child, ran off from his parents to the temple to listen and ask questions to the teachers...all who heard him were amazed at his understanding and answers.... Probably at home with his parents like a normal Jewish kid. Probably learning to be a carpenter/builder like his step father. Probably Proverbs and Ecclesiastes from which Laozi and Buddha plagiarized. Ok...How? Were there Taoist evangelists travelling to Israel? Could Jesus understand Chinesse caligraphy? That's why I like to just stick to what the scripture says about Jesus...It's sufficient. Without it I could just say that Jesus was God and though Israel is centrally located in the world and an ideal place to spread the word throughout the world, he might've had concerns about it getting to China so he astral projected to asia and influenced Laozi and Buddha so as to give them a little headstart... I mean why would God need to be inluenced by some overweight, narcissistcc, egotistical bastards? Why are you so hell bent on this ridiculous idea of a Taoist Jesus that has no historical or cultural vallidity, but give little regard to the idea that Laozi and Buddha could've been Jewish proselytes because their writings are similar to the OT that predates them by 400+ years? Maybe Jesus, Laozi and Buddha got their ideas from the Old Testament Scriptures and then just went their seperate ways... Do you see how convolutted your ideas can become if there is no discipline...no structure..no understanding? Can you now understand why everybody is so confused? K.I.S.S I thought you athiests were all about evidence...but all I see are people laying on their back lazily grasping for straw because they are so biased and desperate to discredit the Bible... This goes back to my original point that tickled your fancy to begin with...why are you so hell bent on this pretense? Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

Yes, I became familiar with asian philosophy when I delved into the buddhism for several years prior to becomming an athiest and then converting to christianity. There are certainly striking similarities to both parts of the Sermon on the Mt. and other parts of the NT as well, however they don't seem to be as frequent or as direct as you claim...some only share a vague undertone with christianity, while other verses are resoundingly contrary. Now the Tao Te Ching certainly predates NT writings but not by several thousands years as you claim... it's closer to like 700 years, but so what? There are many similarities found in writings of Ecclesiastes and Proverbs that predates the Tao and budhism by 300-400+ years, but that doesn't mean that Laozi and Buddha went on a long Journey to Israel and became Jewish proselytes. I think a more practical explanation that can be derived from both Asian Philosophy and Scripture is that truth is truth everywhere and at all times...(I think Buddha said something like that.) Scripture states, for since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made.... So there is this idea that these invisible attributes, eternal power and divine nature can be preceived by the senses from within ourselves that trancends the typical physical world....in other words, there is no need for a religion or an ideology or a particular philosophy to tell us this. So it really comes as no suprise to me that people who desperately sought wisdom would have a similar thought process and come to similar conclusions. Now what we do with that wisdom is a whole nother story. I can go off on some interesting rabbit trails with that idea, but I'll just stop that thought right here. As I said above, that would be as ridiculous as Laozi and Buddha becomming Jewish Proselytes because some of their writings are found in proverbs and ecclesiastes that predates both of those schools of thougt by 300-400+ years. I really don't see what the big deal is. I have had thoughts for inventions only to find out that it had already been patented. I can express an original thought on this forum and somebody will feel a connection because they felt the same thing though we never met. People make similar music and write similar lyrics with zero influence from eachother. Two completely different people on opposite ends of the world can write about their experience of Love and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. This whole Idea that a writing is plagiarized simply because it shares some similar ideas of a previous writing is ludicrous...Did Stephen King Plagiarize from the NT when he wrote Langoliers? Did the Wachowski Brothers Plagiarize from Scripture when they wrote the Matrix? There is this idea in America that we need to start living within our means. If someone writes a book telling people to live within their means, are we to automatically assume that it was plagiarized from Scripture because that's what it's been saying all along? In China or Israel? Could you please cite a source...I'm having some trouble understanding this one. From what I understand, Taoism didn't gain official status until the Tang Dynasty and then later promoted by several emperors of the Song Dynasty. Teeters? Really, Teeters? The Tao is around 6561 words. Even if the entire book was somehow expressed in Scripture, (which it most certainly is not...not even close.) It would still only make up less than 1% of the entire Bible... So no...it doesn't teeter on plagiarism like i've argued above. You can take the whole Tao, the couple of Laws from the book of the Dead, Buddha, your uneven weights and measures and all of your misconceptions and the Bible would still hold it up like a fat man on a see saw... Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

What point is that...that the Bible would be more credible if the ten commandments allowed for murder? His point really doesn't matter to me. I'm familiar with the similarities in different religions. My faith is not based around a systematic set of rules and rituals. It's based around Christ and his prespective on those laws and how it relates to our human depravity. It's not about the law itself, it's about why there needs to be a law in the first place... Perhaps he'd have better luck trolling for orthodox Jews... It's really a moot point anyway. Of all the 600+ laws in the Torah, he's gonna nitpick these few? No killing, no stealing...ya, no shit. His point is lame and doesn't change anything. The funny thing about all this is that athiests will bash the credibility of the Bible all day and mock anyone who uses scripture to validate their claims...then the athiests come along with even less credible books (acording to their standards of credibility) like the book of the dead and gnostic gospels and use them to validate their claims against the credibility of the Bible...it's trully impressive that level of hell bent pretense. Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

So what? Many countries outlaw murder...doesn't mean their code of law was plagiarized from Hammurabi, Mesopotamia, or Israel. I see, so Moses comes out of EGYPT having grown up in Pharaoh's house, and knows nothing of Pharaonic law. Want to buy a nice bridge in Brooklyn? I see, so Moses is in the middle of nowhere with a bunch of pissed off people, but let's make murder legal because if not, one day some hell bent nutty college professor with a bone of contention might be shouting PLAGIARISM! Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

So what? Many countries outlaw murder...doesn't mean their code of law was plagiarized from Hammurabi, Mesopotamia, or Israel. Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

Understatement of the year, maybe even the decade...I guess we'll find out. Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

No John, I didn't make a claim, you did...and now you can't back it up...I guess this is just your way of eating crow. Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

"Do you still beat your ex-wife?" yes or no? ...otherwise you're full of shit Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

You need to learn to relax and laugh at yourself for once. You made an ignorant and baseless statement and then cited facebook as your reference as if it made your "argument" more credible... I mean, that's freakin' hilarious isn't it? What else is there to say other than ha, ha... I just made it a little more entertaining. Christopher Walken's great...isn't he? Whatever makes you sleep at night. Perhaps one day you'll wake up and finally see the pain it's caused. I addressed this in the original thread: It's a process... However, the point here was to show that this was exactly in line with what Jaybird was talking about. I'll take your weasling around the issue as a concession to that point. ...and you say that christians are lying to themselves? you already said that you'd rather express your true feelings for someone rather than be kind to them. That makes it sound like you'd rather be a prick. Being a prick is hurts people. The issue here isn't wether or not you have self control...it's whether or not you understand the pain it causes. You must realize there is a problem before anything can be done about it. But hey...I'm not here to judge you. Perhaps you're as perfect as you say. I'd expect nothing less from a satanist...after all it makes a liar out of God. ...and that's why I'm talking about it from my prespective. If somebody can relate, great. If not, you certainly reserve the right to piss off if you want. I certainly fuckin' hope not! I pray they have a less painful path of destruction, both for them and the others whom they affect...but that they come to the realization of that destruction before it's to late. If someone understands the true nature of threat and grasps it's danger, he can take the necessary precautions. I suppose if I didn't believe in God my level of self control would be similar to yours and I'd probably just give up like you. I know I was there before...ignorance is certainly bliss. I'm having flashbacks from the Matrix... Enough to scare anyone Christian right? No, just like you, many christians weren't afraid of it before they were christians and they certainly shouldn't be afraid of it now... Yes, it's certainly different than physical sexual attraction and love. Meso horney, he love you long time... Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

How about you explain where paul said he's ok with not providing care and letting him die? How do you interpret this? Again...Show me where he says he's ok with not providing him care and letting him die. You can't, which explains all your theatrics and long drawn out quotes to mask the perspecuity of your bullshit lies. Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

Give it up already, prof. You never made your case the last time you brought this up. It's talking about 42 gods, two truths and how man has lived up to prefection of some laws... It takes a stunning level of disregard to make such an ignorant claim with boldness. Irony score 10/10 since there is NO EVIDENCE AT ALL for the existence of your "God". Lame...Don't be so daft you hypocrite. Your claim was never based on faith, so prove it with some evidence or just shut up about it and forever hold your peace. Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

How about you explain where paul said he's ok with not providing care and letting him die? Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

oh, facebook... really...facebook? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K68otRfgmEk No it's not, he said nothing about malice. You're the one bringing up extremes of rape and murder as if that drives your point home because, "oh, I don't commit THOSE sins." ...but here's a direct quote from you that drives Jaybird's point home: So you see, you must understand Jaybird's point. Perhaps it's just that you may be a bitter apostate who subcribes to a non-theistic santanistic ideology and are just being difficult by simply grasping for straws while attributing your shallow, short-lived christian experience onto the rest of us. This isn't about following some list of laws and rituals, man. It's not about comitting sins... it's about why we comit them. Christ taught us to look within ourselves first. He was more concerned with our personal spiritual condition. Secret non-malicious sin in the heart like hate, lust, and coveting is what leads to malicious sins like murder, adultry, theft and lies. But it goes deeper than that. The question is this...why are we so filled with hate, lust and all these futile desires, that even though we can understand and have experienced their devastaion in this world, we are still so inclined to give into that carnality by saying things like..."this is just who I am," "I can lust over whom I please without guilt," "I don't care, I don't have to be kind...I can just be a prick and like it," let's eat drink and be merry for tomorrow we die!" And we go on and live an utterly and completely defeated life in sumbission to this carnality wether you are aware of it or not...wether you care or not. This is why I can't afford to go back there and adopt your prespective and be influenced by your drab, cliche bullish. Christianity has taught me to presevere and fight the good fight...and though I will be defeated many times, I get back up and fight to experience a glimpse of the eternal glory, joy and the fullness of pure life through spiritual victories that kills sin within me and frees me from the grasp of it's affects. Now...if i just give up the fight to my carnal instincts, that's all that'll be left...and though there will be a sense of pleasure, it'll be only for a moment...leaving me to suffer the consequences in this life, just as it always had, as it eats away at everything pure, leaving me with nothing but a wretched, dead corpse in a wasteland destined to oblivion by an all consuming fire... Now you may say you pity me...That I suffer and mourn over trivial things like lust and coveting, but I believe that mourning is a natural and healthy human emotion. Afterall, how are you ever to get over the death of a loved one if you never mourn...how are you ever to move on? It would be abhorrent to boast in death...so also it is with sin...they are two sides of the same coin. Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

Give it up already, prof. You never made your case the last time you brought this up. It's talking about 42 gods, two truths and how man has lived up to prefection of some laws... It takes a stunning level of disregard to make such an ignorant claim with boldness. Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

The irony is that he used an ignorant and baseless statement to argue something he thought to be ignorant and baseless... you must've nor missed that one... Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGmbMDnhgrU Talk about an ignorant and baseless comment... Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

Ya I suppose we wouldn't tip either if our people were cheap, ugly and mean like the English. Goddamn it, you're right. At least they can think up a halfway decent insult though. It's not my problem you find the truth insulting. If you want to be insulted, come on over and play with me in the SC...

I dunno man...I kinda lost it. I just sit in a dark room and replay Apocolypse Now...over and over... Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

I say we study some quantum physcics on viagra while taking a hit of blotter and suck Amazon into our vortex of lust while we simaltaneously astral project back to 1978...Imagine the possibilities. Good bye Francis! Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

***Tell us. Whatever engineering degree you earned, you have now disgraced. It should be revoked. Well at least I can always drop back and throw in some duct work. The world needs heating and air guys too! Can we have a group hug? Dude, you seem to have as many different jobs as you have sock puppets... Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...