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plesae use an altimiter.... the counting thing might end up in the other forum

want mine? Its been sitting in the shitter for a while.

1970 Taxable $ 1272. Earned Income $ 11,132. Emoloyers: Cherokee town & Country Club - Atl Burke Concrete Acc. Burlingame, CA. Modulus Corporation - Cleveland Ohio. American Income - Atl. H-K Corp - ATl.- wife S.S Kresge - Michigan - wife Residential Address ; Atlanta, Columbia S.C., 1971 Taxable $1557. Earned Income $3733. Other Income - sell of personal items -$1500 Employers: H K Corp. S.C. - wife Singer Co. Ga - wife American Income - Atl. - D Robinson Skipper -W Residential Address: Atl., Columbia S.C., This will clarify the 1970 and 1971. Tax Return 1972 American Income $2387. Tx American Income $8813. At. Ray Griffin Ass. $140. Ak (this one is ODD) This is the man I tried to find But do not know why the W-2 would read Little Rock, AK - I was told Miami. ............................... any crimes in the above areas around the dates shown?

,,,, Wow.... going after one of your own eh? .............. no, not going after one of my own.... just using the people as an example. Maybe I should have only used one example. Jerry Roulard??

ok, what skydivers with "beards" have we seen for years,,,,and do not know the "real" face...such as Mike Smith from Texas or M McGowan or Bob Clark that fit the age group might have been Cooper what other guys fit the mold?.... like Ross Wroblewski that hangs low? or Dead Steve Morrel or.... not saying these guys did it... but as skydivers fit the mold calling all skydivers...please give ur guess and why. c

... Re: [NickDG] OT: true story - NEW [In reply to] Quote | Reply -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> It's always suspicious when someone gets banned and then suddenly a new poster appears.

SLUG, -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Interesting, maybe cooper was an ex Boy Scout?? or involved with scouts in the past. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well… since this year membership in the US is 5,970,203, so a reasonable estimate of the # of Scouts from the 50’s through the 70’s would be…. Say….59,000,000…. Good now we’re getting somewhere…. Say half of them are deceased …That narrows it down to a consort of about 29,000,000 individuals! Ckret,,. get someone on that! While I check out Steven Spielberg, (Film Director/Producer), he was an Eagle Scout! ..................... Ok, Maybe you want to talk about how many people wear ties.... the forum is yours. FYI... the number of people that have been caught from any approach or ange is still ZERO! cket, please get on that right away for SLUG. Its his forum.

................ Anybody have more...? ................. Military personnel wear ties

.................... >>"knapsack" was used, which probably was not a widely used term in 1971.

.................. So why didn't the flight crew's actions match the threat? Why did they go tooling through the skies all the way to Reno? Medford was discussed or they could have put the airplane down in Portland. ....................... maybe the flight crew was part of the operation? ive had thoughts of this.... Seems the case has been "guided" in the wrong direction, maybe for a reason.

................ I think you and the Conister's need to extend a couple of invites to Ckret and a couple others for somthing no other FBI Agent on the case has experience ............................. and have him and Jo "spot" together @ 10K ft then see what they say here.

.................. there are less dangerous ways of getting cash to meet the monthly bills. ...................... but not as many "easy" getaway paths. Cooper nailed this part if he got away alive.

............ however i would like to raise this point. put yourself in his place. the jump is part of his plan-- a big part. would you leave the success of the jump up to the good luck of the novice? ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Id think he made at least one Jump in his past....this reduces the risk considerably. There was much more risk in obtaining the rigs than making the jump. Was Cooper a novice? Is it probable that cooper had performed at least one robbery?

...... He knew it wouldn’t be packed, because no plane was ever packed in 1971. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unless you have some sort of proof of this, I'm going to call this claim into question just based on when and why NWA started purchasing larger aircraft, notably the 747, to replace smaller aircraft like the 707 and 727; 1970. (1) ........................... i can tell you this, i never saw a packed plane in the 70s....mostly 1/2 full the few times i flew. now thats two of us

........................ The better question to figure out is, how did he know this route would have a 727? ...................... Good Question ! And why did he ask...maybe he knew there was another plane used on this route at times? chuck

.............. If the Thanksgiving Holiday was to help him in the getaway, then he PLANNED to be on foot in the middle of the night/following day. ............... or at the least, back to work by monday

Safe, Suggestions 1) to test drift of bag of money w/o canopy from 10K a. drop an old rig from 12k and expired AAD & GPS Tracking devise. b. Record wind speeds and directions prior to launching rig. c. evaluate results 2) to test drift of jumper under canopy. a. Enlist one of the fellow jumpers here willing to jump a round. b. obtain 2x ft round gearr. c. Jump with gps devise d. record wind speeds and directions aloft e. evaluate results im sure we can find a willing jumper, gear, gps devise, expired aad. Any takers? This seems to be a worthwhile task, the maps can be overlayed with possible landing zones. whats everyone think?

.................. The big reason I want to analyze float time is because I would like to figure out "how much" help that money had ....................... The Money alone in bundles in a bag would not drift as much as a belly down skydiver. pretty much stright down. Now, Money under canopy (with Jumper) could go a long way from 10k ft. Ive mede jumps (wind velocity unknow...but fast) from as far as 7 miles from the DZ and lander at the DZ while opening at 8k-9k under F111 Square. Granted, Cooper was under a round and may have opened at 10k..... Safe, are you looking for drift time with money under Canopy or Drift with money alone in Bag??

........................ What is the scientific basis that this wasn't one of Cooper's chutes? ............................... ive posted this before what are the SNs of: 1) Harness 1 2) Harness 2 3) Canopies 1, 2, 3 and 4 (assuming the dummy was not made from dirty sox) did i miss the answer to this??? im sure the answer was not posted, maybe i missed it.

....................... The only safe assumption a person could make would be that he probably used an alias. If he did, he may have used it before or used other aliases before. ................. The guy that got arrested on drunkeness may have used Dan Cooper as an Alias or Dan cooper may have really been Dan Cooper and not used an Alias. Im sure the real Dan Cooper has been investigated, but im only guessing.

............... 11_27_71_sketch.jpg (60.6 KB) .................... this looks 40-50 to me

......... The four individuals who had interaction with Cooper all described him in his mid 40's to 50's. ..................... the sketch to me looks 28-32...but thats just me...maybe why he got away

snowmman , ivw worked with guys like you before....may i ask if your left handed? i bet u are.... i like how you think at times. chuck

................ Orange, your out of control, you used "pedantic" in a sentence. My goal today is to also use pedantic in a sentence, I just have to look it up first. i am off to dig, be back in about five hours. ................ Thanks

........ Short of it is, get the harness! ...................... I agree, you will find : 1) A body (maybe) 2) a Harness ( with Serial Number)