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It's the cause of droughts, it's the cause of floods, it's the cause of blizzards, it's the cause of blistering heat, it's the cause of diaper rash, gout, headache, runny nose, anal boils, tooth loss, acne, dry rot, termite infestation, mange, ingrown toenails, and frowns. It walks down stairs, alone or in pairs, and makes a warmetting sound... In other words, it's the answer to the prayers of those people who want nothing more than to enforce their lifestyle choices on you (and then live however they want to, jetting all over the world and drinking starbucks). Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire

Well, it sounds like someone didn't see "The Day After Tomorrow" to learn just how dire our fate might be if we don't stop burning fossil fuels! You're not doing your part and watching enough fictional movies to be taught the truth! Start with "The Day After Tomorrow," move on to "An Incovenient 'Truth'", and if you have time, watch "Bowling For Columbine," "Loose Change," and "Fahrenheit 9/11"... You know, they can ...detect you if you haven't got the programming in your head. Sometimes you can fool them if you stare a lot and don't show emotion... Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire

It took seeing that for you to become aware of it? Of how this is all just a put-on, a big hypocritical joke? Al Gore's as full of shit as any other politician. Some want your money and your vote because they'll save you from the abortion boogeyman, or the gun violence boogeyman, or what have you. Al Gore wants your money and your vote to save you from the pollution/global warming boogeyman, but that doesn't mean he actually is gonna provide a real answer. It's a fraud. Plain and simple. Yet another reason to hold a big successful concert and make money. Or did you actually go believing that these people were all wise and honorable and truly looking out for the planet? This is just Al Gore's GIMMICK. Falling for it would be the dumbest thing you could do. Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire

Now, you must have a link to a news story about that, yes? If it's true, I'd love to see it. Well, that changes everything. Suddenly, now that I know that brawling is a hobby there, I have a newfound respect for the scots. Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire

Well, consider this: He knew God was his dad. He knew that no matter what he did, he would spend eternity in ultimate bliss (i.e. Heaven). He knew that he was set. I'll bet he strode around with the smirk of one confident motherfucker. Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire

Nanook, the conspiracy nutcases engage a hefty dollop of "doublethink" before they consider anything. They do some serious work to avoid the stuff that makes sense, in favor of believing what can't possibly hold up under scrutiny. I read a book published by the editors of Popular Mechanics, about the 9/11 conspiracy theories. I bought it, read it, and sent it on to a close friend who was falling hook/line/sinker for the crap spewed on "Loose Change." P.M. published the book because there were loads of requests that they do so, after they published an article about that subject. So they delved deeper, got more info from more experts, and totally shred all of the popular 9/11 conspiracy kook theories. You should check it out. Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire

Here's one, for now. Oddly, it's on the BBC website! Scotland leads developed nations for violent crime! There's some goofy shit in that article, too. Um, so victims of crime know each other? "Hey, buddy, did I tell you I was knifed the other day!" "Really?! Hey, I was knifed last week!" I've seen reports that state that knife wounds tend to be much more difficult to survive than gunshot wounds. And let's not forget that once you're in knife range, it's pretty difficult to miss your target. Most people just don't realize how difficult it is to be accurate and hit someone with a handgun. If someone is moving, perhaps zigzagging, you could miss him repeatedly even just feet away. (I know a lot of the people here who don't like guns but don't know jack about them will dismiss that statement, but whatever.) Yeah, um, they don't mind committing the crime of STABBING people, but they'll be real worried about being picked up for carrying a knife. Let me ask something, to these fuckin' geniuses: will that four years be more than what stabbing someone would get you? If not, what's the point?! Let's criminalize the idea of purchasing, owning and carrying one of the oldest, most useful tools known to man! That'll control those criminals! Hey, look into our success story and maybe you'll want to adopt it for yourselves over there: we called it "Prohibition" -- it was the ultimate "reform of drinking laws," and boy did it work well! Or from this article: Can you see why some of us are scratching our heads about the U.K. approach to crime lately? Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire

Those damned statistics! Hey, we should remember that although there are an estimated 80M gun owners (of 300M Americans), they say that only about 5% of those who live in concealed-carry-eligible areas (about 40 of the 50 states, I believe) go out and get the license to carry a gun. I don't want to push guns on people who don't want them. It's a personal choice. I just want people to have the choice; and I want them to be aware of the choice. Just as important, I don't want people who don't want guns to feel it's their prerogative to force that choice on me by eliminating the option of carrying a gun. Fair, right? Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire

Didn't the Brits come up with "Gladiators" before the dumb yanks came up with "American Gladiators"? Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire

You must not be reading the same thing I read. I read something that did not talk about crime being down in the U.K.; it rated nations for their rates of violent crime and Britain was rated worse than even (*gasp*) the United States! Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire

QuoteThanks for your answer - but your last sentence is the one that is the point. We didn't give up the right to weapons for self defence. We didn't really have it before the dunblane thing, we didn't have it after - essentially nothing changed. Yep, and that's my point. Should Brits not have the right to defend themselves with something as effective as a handgun just because there's no nationwide precedent for it? (Of course, nobles have always had that right, haven't they.) To me, it's moot that Brits haven't historically had the right to carry guns. Now, efforts have been made to push Brit-style gun bans on the U.S. -- via the U.N., mostly. (Rebecca Peters) Banning guns will never work in the U.S. But on the other hand, lack of guns (for honest people) is not seeming to work that well for Britons, and as crime there gets worse, is it not possible that gun ownership and resistance to criminals might work for them? Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire

Okay, everybody now: "There's no such thiiiing as a winnable war -- it's the liiie we don't beliiiieeeve any morrrre!" Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire

Give your head a shake. You speak as if Red Dawn happened. Red Dawn was nothing more than patriotic apple pie Hollywood fiction. Um, when people discuss the events of a work of fiction, it's understood that "it didn't really happen." Is it wrong of me to refer to the events of the movie in the past tense, like, "When they captured that cache of arms," or "The Russians were trying to take over the U.S." just because those things didn't happen in the real world? Come on, dude... stick with us. Hey, you never asked me if I thought the war in Iraq was a good idea, or whether I think it was truly justified, etc. etc. Fact is, I don't. I'm not happy we're there. But for whatever reason we are there, it's a done deal and we should not engage in the disgusting political infighting that robs our military forces of support and morale. And this making-them-fight-with-one-hand-tied-behind-them bullshit is just an atrocity. Either yank them back home, or let them kick the shit out of the enemy, win, and then come home. On the subject of the U.S. military in the middle east. The world, I believe, secretly gives thanks that we have the balls to be in such a shithole, trying to keep the world from going muslim (read: psychotic, dogmatic, fundamentalist, insane...) the way we always feared it would go communist. I'd love it if this were all just a video game we could start over; so we could experiment and say, "Hey, let's play 'Sim-Middle-east' and see what happens when America butts the fuck out and lets the psychos do as they please while everyone waits for, say, France or Germany or Spain to keep order." BWAH-HAHAHAHAHAHAAA! Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire

I respect this post. Thanks. I am glad that you agree that gun ownership most definitely is an important part of American rights. If your culture is different, your culture is different. One of the objections we Americans raise is that it doesn't appear to us that the right of self defense should be denied to others just because their culture is not "American." So, to me, it doesn't matter a whole lot that most brits don't care to use a gun for self defense. The fact remains that a handgun is the most effective weapon for self defense, and whatever brits would like to have access to them for that purpose are denied. I suppose we're going to have to see what happens. Some of us are willing to believe reports that we've read that British violence (gun and otherwise) is startlingly out of control and rising. If it's happening like we think, it won't be long before it can't be swept under the rug anymore, and then people will have to face whatever (debatable) realities confront British subjects where the right of self defense is concerned. Meanwhile, we over here are not willing to go the way the U.K. has gone. We will not give up our means of protection from the criminal element. Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire

It wasn't long ago that I read (actually read the text of) a United Nations survey of crime victimization that showed that England's rate of violent crime was actually HIGHER than that of the U.S., and among the top three of western first-world nations. (Of course, third-world countries with total bans on gun ownership are hardly paragons of safety. Look at what goes on in Jamaica, Haiti, Mexico, Sudan, and a slew of other underdeveloped places. When the bad guys don't have guns to do their slaughtering, they use machetes, or they burn tires around people's necks. GOD how I wish we could get rid of our guns and be as civilized as the rest of the world! Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire

Posting drunk again, are ya? Gotta watch that! Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire

Ooh, a citation from a conspiracy site -- that settles it! I yield before an onslaught of superior "facts." But I'm still waiting to read that we have all Iraq's oil, and are the owners of that country, and are going to colonize and settle it, and are not trying to set up their government to be self-sufficient with its own military and security forces. I mean, if we're taking their oil for our own, why are we paying $3.05 a gallon? P.S. I think it's pretty pathetic that a discussion that started about the movie Red Dawn ended up drifting this far into Iraq and oil. Who is responsible for this? I want answers! I want the TRUTH! We should be talking about the NRA's role in the production of that film, shouldn't we? That evil, bad NRA that just wants to arm the criminals with automatic weapons... Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire

This was found in the information on the link you provided: I guess that last part means that if your wife were home alone, three guys tried to break in, and she retrieved your shotgun and shot one and sent the others running, both you and she would swing for it, and probably do jail time. (Oh, you'd probably be banned from having an FAC for life, too, I'd imagine.) Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire

I asked about storage, too, right? Are you allowed, legally, to keep a firearm at the ready in your home to be used defensively, in the event of a home invasion? Or does it have to be locked up in a safe, and are you not subject to drop-ins by the police, without warrant, to check on whether your guns are properly locked away and inaccessible? You're right, pity about the handguns. But they are a major sticking point with regard to Americans and our right to personal protection. I'd just as soon have handguns and not rifles, if I were forced to choose between one and the other only. I can't carry a rifle concealed day-to-day. I really would like the details on how legal gun purchases are made in the U.K., if you'd oblige. I'm interested in whether you're blowing smoke with what I consider to be a bogus attempt to claim that guns are "just as" available in the U.K. as they are in the U.S. but you don't have the shootings we have. I believe that not only are guns almost impossible for you to obtain (and you said handguns are right out), but that your crime problem is stridently increasing. Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire

What does that have to do with the fact that firearms are still legal? Go and try to buy a Beretta 92FS in your country and then tell us what the result of your endeavor is. Please be sure to indicate whether your purchase was made legally or illegally. I've read news articles that say that even the British Olympic shooting team, using single-shot pistols, is forced to go out of the country just to practice. Are you asserting that this is false information? Perhaps you would be kind enough to stipulate for me/us what guns are legal to own in the U.K., and under what circumstances they may be purchased, stored, and used. Thanks in advance. If I'm ignorant on this, I'd love to be educated about it so I have the facts. Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire

So basically you are cool with the Insurgents in Iraq.. and the Taliban in Afghanistan fighting for their freedom from the invader. You aren't paying attention. We are not over in Iraq trying to make it ours. That's what the Russians/Cubans/Nicaraguans were doing in the U.S. in Red Dawn. So the so-called "insurgents" in Iraq are not legitimately fighting INVADERS. We are not INVADERS over there, because our stated, overt intention is to give Iraq to Iraqis when their situation is stabilized and not a threat to us and the rest of the world. The same people you cite, are they not happy to be out from under Saddam Hussein and his murderous, psychotic torturer sons' bootheel? We liberated them from him, and now petty control squabbles among megalomaniacal sects of islam are the only thing keeping that country from having normal circumstances. Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire

Yeah, and we'll probably have to deal with them too, eventually. The REAL irony is that it is taking a nation 6000 miles away to deal with the threats that these countries face. Have other European nations not been victimized by islamic terrorism? They have? Then why are those lazy, cowardly fucks leaving it to the U.S. to go it alone and fight these shitpiles? And then we look all unpopular and stuff, because we're willing to get our hands dirty, and the rest of the world leaves us alone to do it and then complains that we're doing it "unilaterally." I think that the U.S. should get out of the middle east: it should use all the money and manpower it's expending on the current war on terror and put a MASSIVE military presence around its borders and shores; close immigration entirely; bring manufacturing and jobs back to the mainland; and FUCK the rest of the world. See how well y'all do when we won't fuckin' help you. (Let's watch how long Africa lasts without tens of billions of dollars in medicine, food, doctors...) I'm sorry, you can only go so long being unendingly generous while people shit on you the whole time, before you just say enough is enough and withdraw your kindness. Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire

It's disgusting the way they treat pilots. "Here, you're responsible for the lives of everyone aboard the aircraft, you're highly trained, you've had to go deep into debt to get that training, you've shown dedication, intelligence, and skill. Now shut up and accept $19k/yr with no benefits." :mad: When you think about it, it's really pretty psychotic how they piss on people who fly thousands of pounds of people and metal overhead. They even tell them that they're not worthy of carrying a sidearm to defend against hijackers. But, um, we can trust them to fly the plane at 400mph. Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire

Checking it out now. Who's that narrator? He's not nearly as entertaining as the guy who does Max X. Looks like one of the Sex Pistols. Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire

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