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This is more excessive than most skydivers I know. Maybe he has money to burn. Oh well...it is what it is. End of thread... You get to open a thread - you don't get to close it! Are you singling him out vs, say, Jeb Corliss, Luigi Cani or Brian Germain? All of them are very accomplished at self-promotion because they are their own brands. BTW- what is the background to calling him "Lord" Slaton? "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

It is perfectly reasonable to land on rears alone and it is one of the skills that some coaches recommend for getting to know all about your canopy. It's not a mandatory skill, but what would YOU do if a toggle came off at 600' AGL? "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

*ding* So what....that wasn't a relevant detail in the post? "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

IMO it's much more to do with the pilot than the canopy. I get some off-heading openings, but have had line twists only once on my KAs. "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

How is that going to help avoid bag-locks? They still have locking stows. My understanding was that freebags were to reduce the risk of horseshoes, not baglocks. "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

How local is local? "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

I am also slightly amused by you the fact that you started this thread the way you did just over a year ago!! http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4144847; "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

I am absolutely incredulous at this post for a number of reasons: 1. You are threatening, immature and totally undermining your credibility before you start. 2. You offer no evidence, or even explanation, for your assertion that 180s are dangerous (other than the mistaken "blind spot" line that people trot out - see #3) 3. 180s do not have to be a blind whip into unknown airspace (indeed they should not be). The modern technique is a diving carve and anyone who can turn their head can see where they are going before they start the turn. 4. Finally, you do all the above while disagreeing with a pro-swooper and professional canopy coach in a public forum. Bad manners, bad skills and bad attitude. It is a sign of Ian's calmness and professionalism that he has allowed your post to stand and be discussed instead of deleting it for the PA it quite clearly was. *I suppose that I should add that #3 above does not mean I agree that it's OK to do 180s or any HP turn in traffic. "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

"The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

Thanks Dave. I talked to a lot of pro swoopers this weekend and they were all talking about using the smoothest control inputs possible to achieve the goal. "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

What about these: Ligaments of the AC joint: Capsular; superior and inferior acromioclavicular; articular disk; coracoclavicular (trapezoid and conoid) Ligaments of the Sternoclavicular joint: Capsular; anterior and posterior sternoclavicular; inter- and costo- clavicular; articular disk Ligaments of the GH joint: Capsular; coracohumeral; glenohumeral; transverse humeral; glenoid of humerus Are they just for decoration? "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

The pilot can have a significant effect on oversteer. Those who lean into the turn will experience it to a greater extent than those who lean to the outside of the turn. This is due to the harness input (intentional or not) that they are applying. Of course, some canopies are more sensitive to harness input than others and it will also vary with wing-loading. Harness input is the best way to counter the effects of oversteer as it allows you to maximize the power of the turn while still keeping a clean airfoil. "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

You write that like it might be the same person! "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

You must be a very cool dude to: a) smoke drugs b) use street slang for (a) "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

So that's what this is really about. Your PTSD. Seek help or harden the fuck up. But don't come on here telling people to leave their mates to die. "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

It's not a fucking game. "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

I sincerely hope you are not saying "don't bother trying to save them". Which is worse? - Trying to save someone who is not saveable because you read something on the internet - Not trying to save someone who is because you make the judgement that they are dead. My view: always keep trying until the coroner pushes you out of the way. "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

Around the palm of the hand so that all the fingers can grip it. Sorry I don't have a pic available. "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

Do you want to bet your life on that? I have seen jumpsuit zippers jam on several occasions. Sparky Whooooosh! "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

Hi Jo. PM sent...I'll be there specifically for the judging. Happy to help wherever you need me. Davinci "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

If you're stable at pull time then that's not an issue surely. "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

Thanks. I have heard it before, but never actually seen the legislation written down anywhere. "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

Can you provide a reference for this, please? "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

+1 "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA

That was the thing that stood out to me, too. Sketchy. "The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA