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Most recently they told her they need the request for a refund in writing, but that was while talking to some gal who may not have been aware of the new "No hoops to jump thru" approach. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

I just got off the phone with Kirsten and gave her your name and that number. It turns out she already bit the bullet and payed me full price to have her husband jump with me (with video and stills). Being as she's now spent the money twice, once with you and once with me, your offer to give her a refund was quite well received and is the easiest option. She's been encountering difficulty in chasing it down, as the folks she's been talking to didn't understand that she was misled by the "Skydive Spokane" on your webpage (despite her explaining it to them several times). On a positive note, she reports her husband's experience with us was fantastic, he's showed the video to friends countless times, and her refund from your company has already been earmarked with a promise to her husband that he can use it to make another jump or two with us...hopefully in the next couple of weeks if she gets it that quickly. Thanks for your attention to this matter. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Ha ha! Yeah, what's so hard to understand about that? Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

so you think the situation would be improved by having people run around with guns without the benefit of any practice on their accuracy. Yeah, that's a step forward on your war against accidental shootings. I dont beleive guns should be legal, unless say for example you make your living or put bread on the table by hunting. To me that's a legitimate NEED for an object developed and used to kill. If a President ever refuses to step down from office at the end of his term, restricts our newspapers and news programs to only publishing government-approved stories, requires adherence to a specific religion, and institutes martial law to prevent public assembly and discourse, I think you'll be happy that some of your fellow citizens are armed. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

You mean besides their political views and manner of debate? Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

And "most lefties" participate in anti-war protests? Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

What? Are you questioning me? I dare say you owe me a public apology for that! Blues, Dave Oh, yeah? What are you gonna do if he refuses? . I believe in diplomacy, so I'll follow the example of my heroes at the UN and write a letter. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

What? Are you questioning me? I dare say you owe me a public apology for that! Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Yes I am , especially if any one of them were kids. So why aren't you crusading against safe storage of household cleaning supplies and replacement of bathtubs with showers since those claim a _lot_ more children's lives? Because: 1. That'snot what this post is about 2. The items you named have a purpose besiudes killing, threatning o kill, or protecting yourself by threatning to KILL. As someone said earlier. Damn I've killed a lot of pieces of paper and tin cans! And I threatened 'em too. Hey, I had to protect myself! Would it be better if I just shot to injure them rather than kill them? Bleus, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

I changed which portions were bolded and added some numbers. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

The word he used in that post was "unexpectedly". To say that's bullshit is to say that when a 3 year old child causes a gun to discharge such that a projectile fatally strikes his 4 year old brother, the 3 year old expected that to be the outcome. I doubt he had any such expectation. Personally, I'd call such an event an accident. I'd say the cause of the accident was likely negligent storage of a firearm and/or insufficient attention to the children, but maybe that's just me. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Go back and read the words in John's post without assuming they mean anything other than what they say. If he says his lab was hired to study a modified gun that factored into an accidental death, I'm inclined to believe him. Is that the part that you say was "Bullshit"? He said he believed the modification involved nickel plating, but he could be remembering incorrectly. Is that the part that you say was "Bullshit"? Regardless of what the modification was, the result of the study was that the modification had significantly reduced the force needed to fire the gun. Is that the part that you say was "Bullshit"? Of the 120 years of firearms "knowledge" that you, JohnRich, and Mike Neal have accumlated, which one(s) taught you that a gun can't be modified in such a way that the trigger pressure is reduced? Because the last time I had such a discussion (3 days ago, while playing with a friend's AR-15) it wasn't a question of possibility, but rather how much the various modifications cost. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

To which bias of mine are you referring? I would posit that my participation in this discussion is precisely because I read the actual words in John's post rather than fabricating and attributing words to him solely for the sake of argument. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

My replies are in red below. Where in my previous statement am I not clear enough for you to understand? Nowhere. I didn't say I didn't understand. I guess one sentence is too hard to understand, so you want an entire essay on the matter? No. I asked you to simply admit that you like to argue with anything John posts. One sentence would have sufficed. Do you just believe what you are told without actually researching the matter, or actually having knowledge of your own on a topic? I assume some things I am told are correct, as, I suspect, do you. If I tell you I'm intermittently eating leftover beef stew while typing this, will you believe me or do some research into the matter? I find it quite peculiar a PHYSICS professor is of the opinion that the gun "just went off" due to reduced trigger pull via a nickel plating. I can guess why you thought you needed to emphasize the word "physics" by capitalizing each letter, but I haven't a clue why you thought quotation marks were needed around the words "just went off". It certainly wasn't because that's a quote, as the post to which you were replying didn't include that phrase. It wasn't a paraphrase either. As far as I can tell, the only way you can attribute those words to the PHYSICS professor is to first put them in his mouth. I do not care if it was silicon nickel, if the firearm discharged someone was touching a trigger. A force was certainly acting on the trigger, and John's post said nothing to the contrary. He merely said it took reduced force. Do not think for yourself, you can just be told things and believe them as if they are true. I'm not sure what the relevance of this suggestion is, but you'll have to forgive me if I don't find it particularly compelling Were the parts nickel plated just to be more Ghetto or Gangsta? I haven't a clue and don't really care. I will give you a hint SOMEONE WAS TOUCHING THE TRIGGER Where did I say anything to the contrary? Just for the sake of argument though, if I dropped a loaded, cocked pistol with a hair-trigger 1000 times, how many times do you think it would discharge upon impact with the ground? I abhor people who do not observe trigger discipline, they are NEGLIGENT and a THREAT to SAFETY. Yet more capitalization, apparently emphasizing a point on which we have no disagreement Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Bullshit. Please post the findings of the investigation, reduced force to fire is no accident, someone had to squeeze a trigger. Admit it, you just want to argue with anything he says. He has a good point for that argument. Regardless of how much the pull force had been reduced by nickel plating some parts, he still had to point a loaded gun at someone while touching the trigger. So regardless of the pull force, he was still grossly negligent in his handling of the firearm. True. Which part of John's post is contradicted by your or warpedskydiver's post? Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

If I've got video, checking the spot before exit is his responsibility. Granted, I'll double-check his work while in freefall and try to give him a chance if he fucked up, but ultimately, it's his job to get some separation and to land on the DZ. If I pull at a normal altitude and he doesn't give me room for a mal and/or he doesn't land on the DZ, it's his fault and his opportunity to improve. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

I don't really have anything to say on this subject, I just wanted to get in the last word. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

The rest of the clip was even more funny (and astute), but it would get this moved to speaker's corner alongside the "credit cards with annual fees" thread. Oh, and I haven't a clue what the attraction is to those huge sunglasses, but to each their own. They're not quite as ridiculous as the boys walking around with their pants falling off, so they've got that going for them. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Bullshit. Please post the findings of the investigation, reduced force to fire is no accident, someone had to squeeze a trigger. Admit it, you just want to argue with anything he says. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

To tie in the current lunch thread, I'm having some tasty leftover beef stew my girlfriend made for dinner last night that includes parsnips. I had to ask her a little bit about them, and have to imagine she'd have pointed them out to me if they looked anything like that! Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

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You're saying the average 22 year old CCW holder is as mature as the average 40 year old CCW holder? I agree that the 18-22 year old should have the option of obtaining a CCW, but I do not think those classes have any magical effect on their social maturity level. And the act of carrying certainly doesn't impart wisdom, so I guess we'll just have to disagree on this part. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Toledo is the pink circle I made on my map, and as we've both said now, it's 400 miles from her. I believe she purchased the certificate herself, for her husband, though it may have been the other way around. In any case, no, we will not accept pre-payment from your company. If you PM me a direct phone line where she can reach you, I'm sure she'll be happy to hear that you now give refunds when you cannot provide the advertised service. If true, that's a substantial improvement. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

She purchased the gift certicate over the phone after finding this web page: http://www.1800skyride.com/Skydiving/Spokane/gift.html I'm not sure whether you're saying the name of your company is Skydive Spokane or Spokane Skydiving (both are listed on the page), but I'm quite sure no such dropzone exists. You see, I own the school at West Plains Skydiving (WPS) and I don't do business with people known to steal from skydivers and wannabe skydivers. WPS is the only dropzone within the red circle in the attached map, regardless of what your webpage says. The last time I checked, the pink circle down by Portland was the closest DZ to Spokane that accepted Skyride certificates. It's 400 miles from this gal. If you'd like to refund her money, I can send you her phone number and she can use the refund to come make a skydive with me. Otherwise, congrats on ripping off another potential skydiver...you got her money and didn't have to provide her anything for it. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)