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No choice is being made for any individual. What's happening now is that if there is no evidence of a choice, then there is no donation. In other words, the hospital staff are choosing not to harvest viable organs. That's still a choice. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Huh? Where? In Washington State. I'm pretty sure my answer was a bit off though. What I said was in the absence of a will, property goes to the state. What I meant was in the absence of heirs, property goes to the state. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

I agree on both counts. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

I think you're referring to unimployment insurance, as opposed to welfare. Either way, I'm opposed to compulsory drug tests in general, whether they're required by the government or by prospective employers. I don't think the make-up of my blood is anyone's business but mine (and occasionally my doctor). Blues, Dave Hm, so if an employer will not hire you becaue you refuse to submit to a drug test, would you consider a legal fight? No. As far as I know, that fight has been fought and was lost. I think it's a sad statement about my compatriots, but it's not something I feel strongly enough about to strive for change (other than through my votes). Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

That stuff would be left to someone in my will. It would be valuable and useful to them. I can't think of any use or real value my organs would have to my family, unless they're planning on selling them on the black market. And if you didn't have a will? It would become the property of the state. Oops. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

I think you're referring to unimployment insurance, as opposed to welfare. Either way, I'm opposed to compulsory drug tests in general, whether they're required by the government or by prospective employers. I don't think the make-up of my blood is anyone's business but mine (and occasionally my doctor). Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

That's not me. I want the government to have as little information on me as possible. I've seen politicians and I don't trust them. Unfortunately I'm surrounded by the terminally naive and/or fearful, so I'm sure this will go through. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Clearly that is the case, as we can all see that those things happened in Spain and France. And every Spanish and French citizen has to wear a monitor too, so the government knows when to collect their organs, right? Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

The wedding stuff is bizarre to me, but the other stuff seems fine. If someone wants a $55 "pearl" dog collar, who am I to judge them? What's wrong with buy a dog treats for valentine's, especially if it keeps them (the people) from being depressed about having no person to "celebrate" the holiday with? And I occasionally massage my dog and could imagine paying someone else to under certain circumstances...massages feel good, and sometimes it's fun to spoil a puppy! How is this a speaker's corner topic? Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

A positive drug test would not constitute proof that your tax dollars were spent on drugs. Maybe all the state's money went to groceries and a friend supplied the drugs one night in a fit of generosity. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

It's not like I'd care, but it would no longer be my shit you were taking, it'd be my daughter's. I'm pretty sure she has no use for my kidneys though, and wouldn't mind you taking them. If by some bizarre coincidence she needs them and mine still work, she has first dibs on them too. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Hey...At least my wishing her an un-prolapsed rectum qualified as a good wish. Positive test results sound bad! Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

If the guy has insurance, his company should be contacting JohnRich to arrange a payment in exchange for his signature releasing them from future liability. How the hell did your car insurance get involved in your accident when you were a pedestrian? Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

I don't necessarily DISagree with you, but it has YET to be proven that the state *DOES* have any rights to "that dead hunk of meat" as well. I'll admit to not being sure when in the process the state takes ownership of the organs, I just know that around here, the government already gets to decide whether they want to do an autopsy on a body. I don't see where the current system is broken. Those that wish to opt *in* can do so - those that do not have to do nothing. Why is having to opt out of the program less desirable than having to opt in? Let's try a different tack: Apply your argument to a DNR order. Should the hospitals assume that all patients brought in have opted for a DNR? Why or why not? No, because assuming they have a DNR would harm them while benefiting nobody and assuming they do not have a DNR would give them a chance at living while harming nobody. When an assumption must be made, the one that favors life is preferable to the one that favors death...and I'd apply that consistently to both scenarios. The goal of organ donation, like resuscitation, is the preservation of life. The result of not donating organs and/or not resuscitating is increased deaths. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Washington driver licensing is the same way, you elect each time you renew. I think the fuss about "rights" is a little odd. First wouldn't we have to resolve that dead hunks of meat have rights? I haven't seen that argument made. I think the system sounds fine. It is assumed that people who can help others at no cost to themselves will do so, and that people would rather see a spare part save a human life rather than save a colony of bugs. Those "useless wastes of human skin" (to borrow a phrase from Royd) who would prefer that as many people as possible die along with them are free to elect as such. The hospitals have to assume something when someone dies. Should they assume the person is or is not a donor? If they assume they are when they actually aren't, nobody is harmed and someone(s) may be helped. If they assume they aren't, when they actually intended to be, nobody is better off and someone(s) else may die as a result. Thus, the preferred assumption is a pretty simple matter. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

The whole "moral majority", "christian coalition", "family values" thing. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Happy belated birthday Sean. And here I thought you were POPS-eligible years ago...it turns out I'm not too far behind you! Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

That's hot. What kind of well-wishes is one supposed to give at a time like this? "Good luck, and I hope your rectum doesn't prolapse!" Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

I thought Fleet was a kind of enema...that might be why it tasted so shitty! Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

The Republicans are neither more nor less moral than the Democrats, but they seem to advertise themselves as such. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

It's been 13 years since I had a break-down of ANY sort...that one cost me $100 for an electronic doo-hickey (I narrowed it down myself to one of two parts, each of which were $100. Dealer wanted $100 to diagnose & another $100 for the part, so I flipped a quarter hoping to save a hundred bucks & was right the first time). Oddly enough, I've NEVER had a flat on the side of the road, so I'm sitting at 22ish years of driving with just that one breakdown that affected a drive of mine. Obviously, I'm knocking on wood here. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

When all the blood is in the wrong head, math doesn't have to be complex to pose a challenge. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

To be fair, did you happen to notice the name of the establishment? I'd be careful, the cashier might be posting the same story in a similar thread on another forum. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

I'll try to remember to pass your opinion on. I'm sure India's largest passenger car manufacturer and the world's 5th largest medium and large commercial vehicle manufacturer is waiting with baited breath for you to tell them what kind of cars they should be building. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

My daughter did that a few times at her mom's house, but never at mine. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)