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In June I made the post below and afterward for several wks I received some weird emails. The post below seemed to have struck a nerve because I started to receive several subsequent personal emails....with the first one stating: Happy Birthday Duane on the 18 of June. The IP tracks to WA State, but that is as far as I can get....Question - if an individual send email with an IP that can be traced to WA - does that mean they have to live in WA and how does ONE go about tracing IP's. The user name we cannot find anywhere on any search...so I need some help from someone outside of this thread to trace these unusual emails. CAN anyone help. I reposted the below post I made to Georger because it seems to have been the one that TRIGGERED this individual Also can I legally acknowledge the content of these weird emails on the thread? The individual claimed to be terminally ill & wanted to tell me something, but the emails sounded very much in like another poster we have on the thread so I basically played with it and then shoved it aside -but, it is haunting me. Weird story! MY source had been in communication with a person we believe to be the KEY to Weber's past and he shut down and refused to corporated...This person does NOT live in the US, but he is key to Duane's past as I met his wife many yrs ago in the early 80's....He denied his wife was the one I met and we have been unable to acquire a picture of the man's wife or girl friend from that time. The postng in question indirectly references this subject. Sorry about having to replay this Georger, but this seemed to have been the trigger: PS - I am NOT going to HOLD anything back anymore. I turned this over to the FBI and they probably have my emails going to dead - do not read file. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Robert go back and read the post. I am showing what a scumbag the man is - he said those things about you - but do you know what he did to me....re-read the post. I had to go through a lot of embarrassement and expenses to prove the thing he publically stated about me were NOT true. In that other thread - HORRID things where said about me - HORRID things! How in the world did you twist that to reflect on me - what I quoted came from an actually email this person sent me and one who has slandered me and harmed me to no end....check your pms as I will send one as soon as this is over. If you ever read the posting of others - you know who stated that. DO you know what that person has said about me... I didn't make the remarks - I quoted them - to change them the point would not have been made. THE person who made the REMARK made HORRIBLE remarks about me in another - place. A place you cannot go and I cannot go....but they wrote them for ALL to see. What did I do???? I did NOTHING. You are taking this out of context. I am pointing out how vicious certain individuals can be. Do you want us to loose the thread. HOW could you be so alarmed about that - READ it again. I quoted an email from a man who has PUT ME THRU HELL. You have not experience the HELL I went thru. I am proving that there are individuals who have an agenda and that agenda is to get rid of me and you....ONE of those individuals will and HAS done horrible things to make me go POOF! THAT man is NOT allowed to POST here. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The one below I KNOW who sent it and hope you guys can grasp who it is: ====================== The man child who wrote the email to me now spends his time BASHING ME & was responsible for a great deal of stress I recently had to contend with. I have all of his emails to me...I kept every damn one of them! This is just to let individuals know when I say I have proof of communications - I really have proof. The communications I have with this person GO WAY back! He can deny & claim I need to be committed or he can PUBLICALLY apologize for the Horrid public postings he make about me & the threats he has made...he can also publically apologize to my children & friends...who read the remarks he made regarding my mental status. NEVER bite the hand that feed you....this man did just that. I proved that in BLACK and WHITE. He is still makes snide & ugly & suggestive remarks about JO Weber....whenever and where ever. THe above was just in general discussion, but I have the angry & abusive ones & the ones where he lies. He continues to state ugly horrid things, but I will not use this thread to POST the bad things. I am doing this to PROVE I do HAVE all of the emails he sent and the bad things he has done and proof of how he uses people..... IT is my STRONG suggestion HE MAKE a public apology. Friends read the ugly demeaning things he stated about Jo in another public thread. He uses people as he used me for information he did NOT have. He could NOT understand HOW I obtained certain information when he had spent yrs trying to accomplish the same thing. When I REFUSED to provide him with TINA's contact number he started to do the 8 yr old jealousy scene...and that was to lash out at me and to demean me. I had accomplished something he had not been able to do...contact Tina. THAT is what TRIGGERED his childish behavior toward me which he uses with to his benefit. I have all of his emails & they include the information I provide him & the theories we both played with.... He had a childish temper tantrum because I would NOT give him Tina's contact information. I was in contact with principals who he could not talk with...This person is responsible for the FBI's attitude! I call these individuals WEASELS! Now he proposes that I NEVER spoke to TINA and that it was all set up?!!!! HOW many of YOU really believe that one? Just a JEALOUS little boy lashing out! He demeaned the things I accomplished & then he HiJacked them for his own....but, what many of you do NOT know ---he was not an attorney when he contacted me but represented himself as such. He was amazed that I knew the building he was working in and the location. HE could NOT understand HOW I obtained that information. When one deals with Weasels one has to remember they are what they are WEASELS and that is how they got their name. I therefore put him on notification that he use his attorney status to erase all of the damage he has done to me & to my family. HIS horrid remarks made to others who know me caused me a great deal of stress not to mention the inconveniece or providing proof that I am sound of mind and very capable.... WHAT did this require? ALL of his emails were viewed so others could understand why he made such demeaning remarks. RAISED eyebrows! The accusor is the one with the problem not JO. Wonder what kind of an ATTORNEY he is? THE emails are all printed! After a few of them had been viewed - eyebrows where raised and the statement made "What Can We Do To Help?" Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

NEED some advice: AS there maybe some legalities in what I am proposing to do. Since I will be returning to surgery for my 4th surgery in all probabilities I feel I have NOTHING to loose by opening the GATES - that might help the thread and the FBI. The FBI is aware of these emails as I have sent many of them to their offices, but they never reply so I assume they went to dead file or totally ignored simply because they were sent from Jo. THere are threats and individual claiming knowedge of the crime and that Weber was Cooper....but all I have are email addresses...I will not use their email address but give each sender a code name. I do believe that in the past a couple of these guys using other names came to the thread. Since 2 of the individuals seemingly are connected that makes it more than interesting, but scary and IFFY. Are the trying to hoax me? I do believe some of this could be coming from Knoss, Cook, Bruce, Blevins and/or JT. I try to watch for syntac and wording to pin point them...one who uses 2 emails I had a phone number for - but when Cossey came up dead - I got to feeling a little uneasy. I think some of these emails might explain why. If I do not post their email address and only the subject matter - can I do that? Some of you will find some of this interesting and some of it is BUNK...garbage. Frankly believe Cook or JT or Bruce is behind some of the posts...just how much do they think MIKIE (me) will take in...before I regurgitate it... Bear in mind that I had to tell some lies to play these guys along - and I do not want that to harm my story...just that you guys understand I had to play them out to see if they really had anything to offer or if they were just spoofs. Syntac on on some sound like Bruce, JT and Cook or Blevins....all of those came with WA state IP's. The others come out of the MID WEST. BELOW IS AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THEM: "MRS.WEBER, YOUR DECISION TO BRING IN SOMEONE THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NO HISTORY OR PERSONAL CONNECTION WITH DUANE OR MYSELF WAS A FOOLISH DECISION. YOU HAVE JUST SINGLE HANDEDLY PUSHED EVERYONE BACK INTO SILENCE. THIS DEEPLY SADDENS ME. THE ITEMS OF DUANE'S THAT WERE TO BE GIVEN TO YOU,NOW WILL BE PUT BACK IN THEIR FINAL RESTING SPOT. VERY FOOLISH MRS.WEBER,....VERY FOOLISH. WE ARE ALL SO DISAPPOINTED. GOOD BYE." I responded by stating unless it was something that could put Weber on that plane it was of no interest to me. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Blevins has his defensive self...where he goes when he needs to distract or change the direction of the postings. There has been a definitive pattern and without my spelling it out you all know what I am talking about. Call it an Alternate personality. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The Death-bed confession of Duane Weber Let's get the facts straight regarding what someone thinks or interprets what I have said and told about the events of those last days. My accounting is the only one that stands - I will try to do this as accurate as I can. I am in a great deal of pain right now - but, hopefully in the next few day I can make short posting in sequences. The sequence then can be compiled in to one story with my accounting of those wks in the hospital & the my learning 1 yr and 2 months later who DAN COOPER was. I was vaguely aware of D.B. Cooper but had NO KNOWLEDGE that then name given was DAN COOPER until May of 1996 when I read the BOOK written by Max Gunther - a book that is 99% fiction per Max's own admission. NOTE at the time of Duane Weber's confession I did NOT know who DAN Cooper was and knew little about the crime itself. No one can deny my going public WAS the trigger that set-off change reactions regarding other suspects. Cooper had been relatively dormant until I went public in 2000... MY contact with the FBI was in 1996 and I waited for the FBI to do its investigation. Remember that in 2000 - when an AGENT made claims regarding WEBER - it was in that moment I decided to go public....and made the call that started all of this crap that has now gone on now for over 14 yrs. I will try to tell the story the best I can - and I do not need for others to attempt to change or to interfer with that process with repetitive misnomers as Bruce and other have done over the yrs. What I say about those last days will STAND - I will try to be as accurate as possible, but may not be physically able to pull the old logs. Remember that even in 1995 as Duane was dying - my habit was to keep notes in my planner due to my history in sales. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Where the man was on the Ground! THere was a tower there! The man on the GROUND - or the MEN on the ground - they were waiting - you think. Each tower had some kind of communication device attached to it - so Cooper was able to get some kind of bing off of it - some way some how. He was off track - and he had to find the beacon signal - how I don't know . That part will ALWAYS be a guess on the part of everyone...NONE of us will ever know the actual truth about every detail. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Well, folks, you can decide for yourself - tongue in cheek, LIES, one man's story, THE TRUTH? - you make the call: Chapter 17 The Death-bed confession of Duane Weber The death bed confession of Duane Weber in 1995 can be considered the dawning of an invigorated Norjak investigation. Duane asked me if anyone was in the room and I thought he wanted a smoke which they allowed him to do if I held it. He put up his hand in a jester mean no stating "We have to talk" While lying in a hospital bed eleven days before he died of kidney disease, Duane told his wife, Jo Weber, that he was “Dan Cooper,” with the first syllable of the last name being drawn out, as in “Coooooper.” The soon-to-be-widowed Jo says she didn’t know what Duane was talking about, and looked quizzical. Frustrated, Duane burst out: “Oh, fuck it, let it die with me.” It was one yr and 2 months later I found out who DAN COOPER was - and that was only by chance - my letting the gentleman I was dating I was not ready for a relationship...by talking about my deceased, otherwise I may never have know who Dan Cooper was. Duane’s pronouncement soon came to be, but afterwards Jo Weber became a fierce investigator of the DB Cooper case, impassioned to learn the truth of her husband. Her obsessive dedication is so singular that Jo Weber can arguably be considered the godmother of the Norjak resurgence. After Duane’s outburst in the hospital a nurse rushed in, but the two women heard nothing more about Dan Cooper. They heard NONE of the conversation - just his shout of "Oh, Fuck let it die with me". Certainly, the nurse did not hear any confession, and apparently Jo is the only one who did. Remember he asked me if anyone was in the room Distilling all of her years’ worth of research, perhaps the most intriguing bit of information that Jo has shared is her tale of a road trip she and Duane made through Cooper County in the early autumn of 1979. Jo describes the adventure as “The Sentimental Journey,” and she feels that Duane’s behaviors during the trip and the places they visited indicate that Duane was DB Cooper. Jo says the car trip began in late September or early October in 1979, and the itinerary took them from their home in Fort Collins, Colorado to a professional insurance conference in Seattle. What made the journey so remarkable were a number of side trips that Duane made in southwest Washington and the Columbia River gorge. Jo describes them as a special time for her husband, re-visiting familiar landscapes from his younger days. But, she also says that Duane left unannounced for up to six hours at a time, never telling her where he had gone when he returned. He stated in Seattle that he had gone to see an old friend who worked not far from the hotel we stayed in and I thought he had been out drinking - he blew in my face and say NO and asked me to fix him one when I handed him the drink I told him I wanted to get some pics before we went down and that is when he made the leaping motion and shout "Geronimo" I have posted that picture. Once, in The Dalles of Oregon she says Duane returned to their motel room with his clothes dirtied, as if he had been digging. Duane also displayed odd behaviors on the trip, such as surreptitiously throwing a small paper sack into the Columbia River from the riverfront promenade of the Red Lion Inn in Vancouver, Washington. sequence is incorrect - first was a the location across from the PDX and the second was the Green tank and the 3rd was Tena's BAR and the last was the Red LionLater, he drove to a dead end street along the river, told Jo to stay in the car, retrieved something from the trunk and headed towards the Columbia, returning in a few minutes. But the most memorable moment occurred in Camas, Washington, where Duane pointed to a spot in the woods along the north shore of Lake Camas, and according to Jo said, “That’s where Cooper came out of the woods.” Jo said she replied, “How would you know?” and Duane supposedly said, “Maybe I was his ground man.” Maybe I was the man on the ground[/] Even more incredibly, such an exchange refutes Jo’s initial claim to me – which she has reiterated many times on the DZ - that she had never heard of DB Cooper, or even “Dan Cooper,” until Duane made his confession in 1995. I knew little about Cooper - just what I read in a newpaper in 1971...Duane had not talked about the incident or about Cooper but I was aware it happened in the the state of Wa therefore there may have been mention of it along the way & I just dismissed it as a joke. But both of these two declarations can not be true, which begs the question: is Jo Weber lying? Or is she simply a distraught widow lost in her grief and acting nutty? that is nutty in itself - why would I make this shit up I was not distraught - I didn't even become aware of it until I started do date Ed and he was getting serious and I was not ready so I told him what happened on that trip - it was Ed who asked me if I ever thought he might be D.B. Cooper - I was TOTALLY UNAWARE that Dan Cooper had been the name given at the time of the ticket purchase & I would pick up a book I took to Panama City to relax before the test, but thankfully I did NOT read that book until I got home - that was the night I found out DAN COOPER was the name given by D.B. Cooper I confronted Jo on this discrepancy and she artfully back-tracked from her claim that she had never heard about DB Cooper until her husband’s death-bed confession. I am unsatisfied by her explanations, and frankly I feel deceived.I have never changed this story and it has been the same since day one However, after years of mutual investigations Jo and I are almost Cooper kin. I even toured Cooper Country with her on one memorable day in 2010, and she feels more like a family member who tells tall tales at Thanksgiving Day dinner than a conniving Cooperite. Jo Weber is certainly an odd case. She is cranky and whiney; needy and lonely. I am cranky and you would be too - you whine when you are sick - how many time have I walked you thru things? I am definely not needy. Yes the Cooper case makes onelonely - especially when you have walked in my foot prints - the smart thing would have been to have never have mentioned it - there is not a day that goes by that I wish and be damned him for telling me who he was or that I ever found out who Dan Cooper was. obfuscates much of what she writes on the DZ, cloaking details in gibberish or uses impassioned entreaties to beg for the protection of her mysterious sources. there is no BS in telling the truth - why the hell would anyone do that - but what you just wrote is BS But she is no dummy. She is profoundly knowledgeable of the case, and she seems to have plenty of juicy contacts – to whit, she converses with all the principals in the case. In fact, she may be somebody else’s eyes and ears to monitor what cyber sleuths are discovering about Norjak. I do not understand that at all - over my simple head Further, she is a skilled investigator – or appears to be one – and was the first sleuth to find Tina Mucklow prior to the time when Galen, Geoffrey Gray and I came to learn Tina’s whereabouts - all separately by the way. But, is Jo being fed information from somebody? Is she the beneficiary of a Norjak puppet master? no I am the one who first used puppet master when Galen was instructing posters what to say and to get his questions into a thread he was banned from she just weasel it out of folks by her constant needling? you are the weasel - not me Looking more closely at her discovery of Tina’s whereabouts, Jo says a critical piece of information came to her in an email from an anonymous source called “Robbie Clampett.” Jo says this individual told her the county and state where Tina had totally inaccurate...I found that later with the help of a friend - the source gave me her phone number and her address. source will remain unknown for ever unless someone figures it out - I did - but that is not for public knowledge. The divorce records where found for me by a man who has aided me in my search many times and he also will remain annoumous - if you print lies that do not give credit due where credit is due - you will be sued and never see a dime of that book. You are here by notified that you have inaccuracies Jo says she was able to determine Tina’s current address using many of the skills she learned as a real estate agent perusing public records. duh! I said that because I was tired of hearing all of the flack from everyone - but that is how the source found and I was able to do exactly what he or she did & that information was publically available if you knew how to do it...but originally it was GIVEN to me and then I verified it and waited over a yr before I tried to contact her. I had what I had sought, but did NOT know how to act on it - I certain would never have done what you did! Later, Jo says that she has called Tina several THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE AND YOU KNOW IT...I SPOKE TO HER ONCE AND BECAUSE OF THE INQUIRER WRITER (that is you Bruce Smith as you pounced up on her door and took enquirer type photos). Yes I left 3 other messages about thing over the last 10 yrs and one of which was to arrange for a contact between her and the co-pilot...all I did was leave a message which he had sent me to give to her - so she would know it was him. NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO TOLERATE YOUR INTRUSIONS - YOU JUST ARRIVE UNANNOUNCED WHICH GIVE MAKES YOU AN OBTUSE PERSON as spoken with her once, briefly, in September 2003. I would have t look at my notes to know if that is accurate, but I sent her a letter before I called /b] all Jo will say is that Tina announced: “He (Cooper) was a very sad man.” Since then, Jo has become very protective of Tina and has harshly criticized my efforts to speak with Ms. Mucklow and her family. In addition, Jo seems to have unparalleled access to Tina’s sister, Jane. Lee Dormuth, Jane’s husband, told me that Jo had a lengthy phone chat with his wife the night before I arrived on their doorstep in 2010. to warn them about the visitor that was walking up to their door unannouced - you that Brusk and rude writer I spoke to the Dormuths one time but you had already arrived on their door - remember she pulled her husband inside for a moment! while you stood there gaping. Nevertheless, Jo says that she called the Dormuths to warn them of my pending visit the next day. Similarly, Jo says that Ralph Himmelsback has invited her to dinner at his home in Oregon, which I consider to be a coup since the renowned G-man won’t talk to me or anyone else without cash up front. Further, Himmelsbach is quoted by journalist Douglas Pasternak in a US News and World Report piece that Duane Weber “is one of the best suspects he’s come across.” Complicating the issue, Jo is hardly the “dumb blonde” that she says she is. Rather, she is a skilled seductress, attracting assistance on the DZ at will whenever she needs to resolve some technological glitch or investigatory impediment. Jo’s mysterious behaviors cast her in a suspicious light, which are intensified by her frequent phone calls to me that are veiled fishing expeditions. Is she keeping tabs on pesky investigators like Galen and me? Why? JUST FOR THINGS LIKE THESE ABSURD MISNOMER YOU WROTE Nevertheless, Jo Weber has pumped a lot of time and energy into the Norjak case but has yet to prove that her husband was DB Cooper. Certainly Duane Weber had criminal credibility, as he was reportedly arrested 26 times and spent at least 16 years in prison, including one stretch when he was incarcerated under a second identity, John C Collins. THE problem that go the FBI in deep DOO DOO - they did NOT pull the file until I contacted them many yrs later....and then I could never get a copy of the paper work until our Shutter Man managed to do so. What a shock...compare his picture with other pictures that certain witnesses have stated looked close....the hair line in the composit is tricky unless you enlarge it to letter size in sepia and watch the hair line appear in detail you have not seen....every pen stroke and it take an artist to understand what Rose was trying to depict....like the mouth - he gave up trying to get it right...but, he has told the story to Doug Pasternack and Doug told me about the almost 2 hour interview and what was said. That was the night I knew and felt that my battle was over - well, that was many yrs ago and now I am still fighting the battle. Despite many years of research, Jo has yet to put her husband on Flight 305 or show conclusively that he had any parachuting experience. Further, Jo says the FBI told her in 1998 that their fingerprint analysis ruled out Duane as a suspect, and again in 2007 the feds declared that Duane was not Cooper – this time based on DNA testing. Nevertheless, Jo steadfastly holds out for Duane and her arguments have some merit – at the very least Duane was very familiar with the topography of Cooper Country. Plus, he did confess to being “Dan Cooper,” not DB Cooper. Also, we know that the FBI’s DNA samples are flawed and at least one FBI agent says the fingerprints retrieval was botched. In a later chapter we will explore the intriguing possibility that Duane was part of a ground team and Norjak was a group effort. After all, if DB Cooper made it how did he get away with his loot? Besides the supposed confession of Jo’s husband there are other important Cooper confessees, in particular Barb Dayton and Wolfgang Gossett, along with the near-confession of Kenny Christiansen, and these subjects will receive their own treatment in separate chapters. An excerpt from my book: DB Cooper and the FBI - The Investigation into America's only Unsolved Skyjacking Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I was sent specific things I was told I needed to address publically and they thought I needed to be made aware of. Seems connections to the FBI are still being tooted by certain individuals. Yet my sources and 2 friends noted a remark made that indicated the person was NO longer in contact with the FBI office as a past tense was used. Well, OK. Jo did NOT contact JT until LATE 1996 and at the advice of Mr. Himmelsbach. There was no way any concept of a book in play at that time - that would not come when the FBI sent me that letter dismissing Duane in 1998 based only on prints. I have the letter....Until the FBI did their thing going public or doing a book would have been a no no...but someone did approach me - but I didn't like how he was handling it.. The truth and NOTHING but the TRUTH - if you have to lie or engarnish then it doesn't need to be written when related to a public crime. Mr Himmelsback was unfamiliar with WA and felt that JT would know the locations I spoke of...that was my only reasons to speak with him at that time... Jerry has never spent anytime with me. I have never met Jerry. I was told the date of this remark was this yr...so I will take that up with JT. He was supposed to be going to surgery and I have not spoke with him of recent....this report came from Bruce as of recent and that truely disappointed me as I have tried to be nice to him....he is just an ENQUIRE SMUT writer. THIS SMUT writer referred to JO WEBER as a skilled sociopath claiming she back tracked on something. The statement was and will always remain "Maybe I was the man on the ground". My conversation with the person relating this to me was VERY aware of how SPECIFIC I have stated this for 17 yrs. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Clarification of conversations regarding JO that need to be re-interated: 1. How can one communicate with the FBI and yet be denied essential information on his or her subject.. This person knows what I speak of - NO names necessary...referencing someone who claims an intimate relationship with the FBI. 2. Cook contacted me many yrs ago and I have the files - all in black and white...he initiated the contact. Not the other way around as he has publically declared. I expect Tosaw may have given him my contact information - but I would have to view the early communications to verify that. He was the one who sent me a black & white snail mail, because he wanted to know what I knew..I still have the copy of the letter he sent me with his suspect's photo with a pic cut from a business or college paper. I will never forget the angry call I received on that one! He was angry as hell - but I did NOT promise him Tina's location information in exchange for that pic of his suspect... Maybe I should figure out how to scan that letter and that envelope and post in on the thread. I invite Shutter to visit my home and I will produce the entire 12 inches of black and white I have on Galen. 3. JT may never completely change his opinion of me, but he has denied SPECIFIC accusation made by Cook regarding me. 4. Jo does NOT squirm - she just tells the truth. On our trip to WA in 1979 Duane mentioned Cooper one time. Cooper was insignificant to me. 5. He did make one comment on our 1979 trip about Cooper when he showed me HILL - little Mountain and made the Comment. "That's were Cooper walked out of the woods". My reply was how would you know that and his remark after that I just took as teasing me "Maybe I was the one on the ground". JT denied that mountain existed, but I found it in 2010. ODD those who should have ID'ed what I described in detail over the phone - between 1996 and 2000 seemed to not know what I was talking about...sounds a little ODD to me. 6. I was aware of Cooper, but remember I lived in the DEEP SOUTH in 1971... I read ONE article on Cooper and that was on the 3rd page of a new paper. The war was the subject of the entire 1st page. YES, I remember it was on the 3rd page. I do NOT know why! 7. Yet, according to others - I had to have more than a general idea - well, I didn't. I was preparing to divorce my husband and I had 2 children to raise. I was in 1971 taking courses to prepare myself for that task. 8. As for JT - we all know exactly how that came down...one will note that JT no longer communicates with some of the sleuths. 9. As for Bruce Smith - all of you know he takes conversations out of context and is not too nice regarding his so called interviews. Therefore take what he says I say - tongue in cheek. 10. As for JT - again - he was the one looking for a book deal and to prove his theories...he said lots of things to lots of people...maybe he was the one with ulterior motives. THINK about how many suspects he declared or have they been long forgotten? 11. I had been referred to him by Mr. H to help me ID the place I described. Well, until I went to WA on my own in 2010 - I did NOT realize there had been deliberated deception by certain parties - or perhaps I was NOT able to communicate in a phone conversation what I was trying to say & to describe. 12. Jerry NEVER interviewed the nurses at the hospital and I never claimed the nurses over heard any conversation. ALL they heard was his shouting out "Oh Fuck, Let it Die with ME" and then immediately started sedation. THAT is the only part of the conversation they heard because that is when he raised his voice and SHOUTED! It is a common thing for patients to strike out when they know the end is coming....no matter how well prepared they are. They thought nothing of it. PS Two wonderful individuals who have worked with me for a long time felt I need to know what was being said & allowed to defend my position...this person has followed me for yrs. and knows my story. The DZ platform is all I have thanks to Quade who has now been replaced. Therefore I have to watch my P's and Q's. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Sweetie I do not understand your fixation on Blevins. It is NOT healthy. It breaks my heart you have NO one to talk to - much like Blevins. I note that when he gets upset - you get upset.....At times the two of you seem to be ONE. YOU always post when he is on the outs with his story or with the thread. I offered to arrange for you to meet my family member. She is like you and guess what she is going to do...She is going on an adventure to Providence in a couple of months with a friend. I worry about her making this venture, but even though she is different she deserves to be able to live her life to the fullest. She has very few teeth - as they did NOT grow right and because of the serious bite they cannot make false teeth for her.. She would have to have a dangerous surgery to reset her jaw in order to have false teeth and / or implants. That takes a lot of money her parents do not have....but, she loves life and she will take on anyone and everyone. She is beautiful - absolutely beautiful and you appear in the pic to be a remarkable young man. Spending your life hating people is not a good thing...and hating the circumstances....MAYBE you need to have a talk with your parents and tell them how you feel. TRY IT! I still do not think your parents would approve of you being on this thread....but, that is NOT up to me. I think it is dangerous for you to be in such an adult forum - predators lurk everywhere and fortunately you are with the BEST of the BEST right now. REALLY think it is time to talk to MOM and DAD about your feelings & tell them where you are posting...and mostly right NOW they need to know how you are hurting. Please sit down and talk to them - do NOT get upset. Just talk to them! PLEASE. Perhaps nothing can be done to change it, but sound like you need a little help accepting the circumstance they are in and you are in....I am sure they are doing the best they can. GO talk to them - THEY need to know how you feel....leave the anger & the hurt on the computer. Tell them you love them, but then tell them HOW unhappy you are... ARE you going to CAMP this summer? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

As much pain as I have been in today and currently experiencing - YOU made me chuckle and that hurt. I am still chuckling as I type!

I already knew it was an airstream...I call them campers. I want to HEAR Porteous tell me he was the one who suggested Paradise....I do not believe a word you say anymore. As for Twisp that has been a part of the story I have told before. Note Twisp is near a site I ASKED you to check out when you made your last trip...You were right there - so frankly I do NOT believe you went back to Twisp to her nor did you even attempt to do so. If you were not on 101 then it was your buddy and co-hort. The woman in the picture you posted of Mrs. Geestman is an older version of the woman who came to Pensacola......around 1993 give or take....and I never saw a picture of the other woman you mentioned who drove horses at the fair. What was her name? Do you have a younger pic of her? Ask Porteous about Paradise? If he fed you this then he was the one lofting on 101. 1st time you ever heard my story about this was on this thread ? BULL! YOU POPPED in to promote you book. You had no intention of doing any REAL research. The Foss Tugs had a GREEN fuel tank parked on the river in 1979. The purpose was for fuel for the tug boats. It was a fueling tank. I could give a RAT ass where the offfice was located. I am talking about the large GREEN REFUEL tank they kept on the COLUMBIA. Anything near the coastal area to Duane or myself was on the coast line and the man who owned the airstream had move to the coast line and we were not going there. You have not and WILL not show any of them the younger pics of Weber nor the Jefferson pics. You accidentally fell in to something, but you ended up writing fiction. There should be NO protocol on information in this old case...to withhold anything only promotes the fact that you & others have distorted the truths. This goes for the FBI and anyone who thinks they might know something. The constant promoting of your book & the repeated postings has been the main source of agitation on this thread. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Chuckle chuckle! I heard about that bill but, they never verified it as a Cooper 20 - said it was a smaller bill??? IF it was really a Cooper bill - I sure would love to know MORE about the source...I have always swore and be Damned that Duane had some of the 20's in that bill fold that was hidden in the van....the BILLFOLD the new owner returned to me AFTER he told me 2 different stories about the wallet. When he called me he said he had found my husbands wallet. I replied that I had my husbands wallet. He said "It has his military and Id's in it". When he delivered it 10 days later I asked what was in it and his answer that time was "I didn't look in it" WELL, how did he know it belonged to Duane and because the ID was in the name of John Collins why did he assume it was Duane's. Well, the Driver's license had Duane's picture on it but the name was John Collins....of course the car was registered under my name & how the transfer papers were done. It was not until a couple of yrs ago that the guy learned that the ransom was paid in $20's - he hung up on me. His then wife and now ex-wife will have NO part of it. She seemed at odds when I went to see him a couple of yrs later. His story did NOT match the first stories...and she never left the KITCHEN. She was purchasing the vehicle for him.....they are NO longer together. He did contact me when he was going to sell the vehicle to see if I wanted it...I could not afford to buy it back and the FBI had taken his word there was NOTHING in it...just the wallet. ODD I didn't find the wallet when a friend of Duane's and I cleaned it out. The only parts we didn't check was inside the motor cover and the spare tire. The Astro entry to major components was inside - you had to remover a cover. He sold it for junk - and maybe some one found something in the dismantling for parts - you think? I still have a piece of foriegn currency that Duane had - it had coating over it and I asked what that was for. He simply said just a little experiment he was doing. It is like a wax ironed on to the bill to preserve it. Oh well! Jo looks for answer anywhere she can - I will always believe there was more with that Wallet than I or the FBI was ever told. Frankly at this time and the foreign bill having a wax job, I am sure of it. CAN I prove it - no! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

That is BULL and U know it! FESS UP! You took the Paradise Park & the woman & the Green Tank & the info about FOSS Tuggs right out of 101. Well, the little break you got was that the story on KC led you in a direction that correlated with the story I told and you persued it. Why did you not call the FBI regarding what you found...instead you stashed it away so you could write a book... Out of all of of the crap you have prostelized on this thread - the connection to KC is the woman who rode Horses and Paradise park...Something I was enquiring about in the early 2000's. The FBI was not listening to me so I went some place I could get someone to listen....there were EARS on that site.... One set of those EARS was looking for story ideas & for profit. You figured I was an old woman & would never be acknowledged. You used very important elements of the story I told and incorporated them. You even did away with Paradise when I mentioned this in the thread...NOT sure you knew I was the woman who was posting there, but you quickly realized your faux paux. Maybe you REALLY didn't know the woman in 101 and Jo were the same - but, when you found out you SHIFTED your story. HAD you bothered to have read the many yrs of postings from the orientation of this thread - you would have known. ONLY one reason to ignore prior posting. Your denial of 101 is like jumping into a swirling raging river - sooner or later the RIVER will swallow you. Was I making up the woman who rode horse standing and the Paradise park story? Just HOW did you zero in on this? That would be reading what I wrote in Unsolved Mysteries and 101. When I called you on it in the thread you immediately gave the park another location & name. It is a known fact I spoke of these things for yrs, but they fell on deaf ears. The only thing you have done is make JO's story just a little more believable. YOU went on a hunt after you read about the park & the green tank & the horses. Yea, you stumbled into the right path....but, then you contrived a story rather than look for a reason or a connection between the two subjects. The 1st place logic should have taken U when you looked into Kenny and found it took the story to the woman who rode horses and the park. THIS is when you should have picked up a phone and called the FBI. ODD co-incidence I would think....especially since KC had ZERO resemblance to the description of Cooper. KC is not here to attest to what he had to tell his brother - but, something in the back of Lyles mine made Cooper come to mind. I call it greed! What you did has cost me more yrs of my life as we have wallered in Blevins & Kenny muck ever since...All you had to do was contact the FBI about the uncanny connection. Perhaps they would have done something about it, you think? Maybe someone is listening NOW! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

*** Is Tom Kaye working with you or advising you on how to apply pressure and what kind of pressure to apply? Inquisition. PS: I guess your announced plans to stop after 8/9 were all another lie. You will be at this for years to come! Who could have guessed. Well, stated Georger. I believe Blevins bubble is about to burst! His story has been contrived ever since he came to this thread and he came here NOT to learn, but to promote. We corrected his errors and the appreciation all have recieved is to read his repeated changes over and over.....his story continues to evolve. Several time I have mention 101 and where his information chain and interest began....then he developed his own story around information I had sought and enquired pubically about. I think it is time to DIG into the files, but I would have to type each one of them. They are all paper....101 is lost to the internet in its old original form. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I spoke with JT several times in the last yr and only recently. He is having some health issues and the last I heard they were going to do some surgery on his spine. He has ACTUALLY been nice to me for about a yr or so now....Getting too old to argue with a woman I guess! Shelly and I actually talked about woman things - like she had known me all of her life. That was a very pleasant surprise. They have saugage babies - dogs and they have been busy with that litter....JT loves his dogs. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jo Stated: Then Blevins stated: Well, had I not have mentioned 101 before and called Blevins down on this - he would never have change it....GO back and read. I am 99% positive he was reading the thread and probably posting. When I called him on this in the DZ, he then changed is STORY, but NOT until I called him on it in the thread. He knew I had caught him - because how could 2 individuals zone in on the park and the woman who rode horses. He read things I had said and took them as his own...and the good thing about this is that I discussed these subject with Mr. H and other prior to Blevins ever writing his book and coming to this thread....AM I gifted or something like that - AM I able to see things and write and talk about things I had NO knowledge of. The story about the park & the woman who rode horses - I have told since DAY ONE to the FBI and to anyone who would listen. I also told about the Green tank on the River and was informed it was Foss Tuggs...and why I got in touch with them BEFORE they went out of business or change hands...WAY before I came to this thread. Mr. H was instrumental in my being able to find this along with others who helped me to finally make contact with the man whose name I now no longer remember. In that same conversation in 1979 Duane told me about a man & the camper and that was the same conversation Duane mentioned one of the GUYS lived on the Coast line, but we were NOT going there. He probably said the name - but My memory is good, but NOT that good...it was 1979 and now it is 2014. I admit that I now forgetting a lot & much of the story is being lost to me & why this thread has been so very important to me. Why I was calling Blevins down from GET GO!... The 101 has been changed and/or removed....but, I do have the BLACK & WHITE copies...ANY volunteers to help me clean up these extensive files? I will not have the time nor the energy nor eye site to go thur all of this crap. I know what I know and I know how to call them the way I see them.... I was onto Blevins before any of you ever got to that point. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Nah the Thomas he mentioned was Bill,l but he had other first names...he was the man who owned the insurance company Duane worked for and then it shut down and reopened as another company shorty after the 1971 Skyjacking. This is the man who Duane LOANED money to after the Skyjacking - I still have the NOTE. I question HOW Duane had money to loan his BOSS? Supposedly in 1971, 1972 and until 1973 he did NOT make a lot of Money. THIS is something the FBI should have looked at more seriously, but they didn't. I can also provide input regarding Don Burnworth. I have actually spoke to Don Burnworth 3 to 5 times since I learned about him. Our conversation never revealed anything and I do not remember the context of the conversations. He does know the thread - looked at him as suspect....he has an airtight alibi. I do not remember what it was. This was personal phone calls and he did email me a few times...evidently nothing serious or I would have mentioned them in the thread. I still have a file on him and will check it out. The FBI ruled him out early on in their investigation. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Blevins YOU were lofting in 101 a small insignificant site that is no longer....but, I have the COPIES in BLACK & WHITE and I can READ Blevins all over them! I suggest you heed the repeat of this email...because I believe I have the proof of when and how you developed your story...Why did you do something that obvious? Are you that HUNGRY! To ride off of a story told in 101 by a woman who was trying to find some answers regarding her husband. There is one solid fact - you were on 101 or you lofted there...It was the place to go for young writers or those with an idea...YOU went to 101 and you read about Jo Weber and YOU decided to CASH in... Skipp posted that picture of KC actually on a whim - but maybe Skipp knew something YOU did not know....such as the circumstance of Kenny being proposed by his brother as Cooper. The rest is a repeat, but I will probably correct a few errors, but I have taken my pill - so probably not. I expect you guys will want me to prove this and I invite you to sit down with these multiple volumes of emails and researches I have prior to 2004 ALL in black and WHITE. I think GOD provides clarity before we meet the maker - perhaps it become a matter of have to...and for some reason things have been some what clearer recently - because I stopped trying...and it set parts of my mind free to remember. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I don't know how much longer I can hang in here on the thread - getting very difficult to stay connected to make even one post.. Health issues going on & never know what the day will bring. Lots of other problems with the yard and washing machine and dishwasher and now my car and the AC on the house...never know what to expect...and each day the issues seem to esculate. 2ed New washing machine is being picked up tomorrow...and they will not connect my old one which is in the garage -$79 for someone to bring it in from the garage and install it. Have not been well enough to shop for another new one & due to health issue - a washer is essential. The first monster they delivered tore up my mattress pad cover and my fitted sheets...not to mention the delicates. The second monster (a Maytag) will NOT allow me to do a second rinse with the enzyme & sofener... USED more water & electricity trying to accomplish what I could easily have done with my old machine. The new Maytag is a night mare and DOES NOT get the clothes clean and doesn't let me do the warm second rinse with warm water to activate the enzyme. The exchange people chose the complex Maytag.. I original chose a Kenmore - it was the one that CHEWED UP my matteress pad and fitted sheet. Car has to have AC fixed & that is Weds, but the people know me & are bringing me home - so I can rest....is a 4/5 hour job...hardly worth it on a 2003 Rendevous. Due to my health concerns AC if a necessity & so is a washing machine...shopping is 28 miles away and with lots of base traffic. The other location in 17 miles but with much more traffic...and it is a small area with limited shopping facilities. Some how I have to make it to the other location to look for another washer and return safely. Between Cooper and my health and the current issues regarding the maintenance of my home - I feel like just giving up. I am a tough old Cookie, but everyone has their limits. I do have good days when I am full of energy & relatively free of pain. but recently the bad days have prevailed. The down side has esculated. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

NO You go Amazon! 377 Let say HELL no! I even broke down today & gave Brucie a call to compliment him on the introductory he did to his book! I even took back some pf my critique after my sister informed me comas before and are NOW acceptable and so is I'd. She claimed the books are written as the word is spoke - BOY Oh Boy am I out dated! I think I will stick with OLD SCHOOL! Communications & the written word is are changing so much and so fast... The short abbreviations the kids use on their phones will be considered acceptable for letters and books and other literature...creating mini books. Already very young students are being instructed in coding.... these kids looked like 1st graders in a news article today. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Yea, I saw that and "I thought to myself" just like the Song....WELL one person could get everyone banned and have it all to himself with NO competition. Or there could be someone who just didn't like the context of the posting and to come thru and do that to everyone they didn't like or agree with and we all know who is childish enough to do something JUST LIKE THAT! Now if they mean selling something like Blevins has sold his book - how is that fair to some of us who have yet to attempt to publish anything. Guess I better look up the internet definition you gave as spam! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Quote Persecution of old people always leads to legal intervention. So how old are you Georger? Old enough I am sure! To be sure Geestman is fed up with all of this...but he does not come to the thread so he only knows what others tell him... Blevins has lied about many things and the individuals are TIRED of it! The are fed up! Their legal counsel has probably been lofting here in the audience. I know I am contacted by "others" who loft here & by my regular email rather than the thread - I have made my email public on this thread as it is a Cooper dedicated email address - NO problem. Jo hides NO where - because if the truth is to ever come out - I want the provider to be able to find me...and there are those who have found me thru this thread! I expect I have receive things Cooper related, the FBI has never investigated - in fact I would put money on that! I get ALL of the nuts, but some then along the way comes something that needs to be looked at. Such as "I found this when I was a kid, but didn't know what it meant" - but, the response I get back is that they contacted the FBI and were basically ignored and 99.9% never spoke with an actual agent. One good was - "My father was a surveyor and he had old pictures of the towers and other places" and then to add that my father was the age of Weber. It is the one like this that pulls at you....but, you know the FBI will not even listen to them, but you do tell them who to contact. If I yakety yaked about that the way Blevins Yaks about his "evidence" we would be bogged down forever. In fact I think he have hit bottom. Due to the age of the crime and the approx age of the SKYJACKER, I expect NO NEW information is forthcoming. ONE person I dissed who I wish would recontact me was a young lady whose mother & grandmother she told a story about....now yrs later - I wonder if I did that one justice and that perhaps I should have made personally sure it got into the hands of the FBI. Since I do not want to attempt to related the information incorrectly I would have to pull up those OLD files. The individual was EARNESTLY trying to find answers to her own life's question mark relationship with her mother & her grandmother....the stories she heard that they quickly doused when she got older. She thought perhaps Cooper was her grandfather....and if genetics plays into this - perhaps she was. She looked like Duane's sister. I had NO pictures of Duane's brother nor his sister in their 30's or 40's. As children - yes but NOT as young adults....still the resemblance was there between this young lady when comparing her pic to the older Sister and Mother of Duane pics I had. What if? A lot of those over the yrs! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

*** New Report on Kenny, oh, and by the way it is NOT ready, yet! I have trust issues with certain people[/qoute] Kayee didn't want a copy of your NEW addition (note how Edition is spelled) Pleased do NOT bother to explain the ludicous and boring details. You do NOT investigate Cooper or KC you just create crap & more confusion...everytime you become more and more discredited. Bernie Geestman is NOT worried about you - he is worried about surving tomorrow and hopefully the next wk and next month and the next yr. Obviously you have more facilities at your access than the FBI if you are "investigating" this or that over and over. More likely you are recreating your characters! That is not the results of an investigation. That is what the FBI will do with any efforts you exhaust. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber