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You have never lived on a farm that had sheep slaughtered by a lone wolf. Maybe the wolf was sick? I never heard the wolf howl, but we did loose sheep to LONE wolves Since our land was mostly pasture - perhaps he was sick and lured by the easy prey of the sheep....maybe it was just a wild dog. Any heavily wooded areas with rocky ridges and caves were further on out the Bardstown Rd. We had some thickets of trees, but they would have offered little protection for a wolf. I agree - this may have been a sick wolf. My brother would remember more about this than I do. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

You are NOT the only one who got a phone call from Geoffry today!

Howling at the Moon. A lone wolf will Howl a the Moon to let other know they are there. Have you ever seen the lone wolf go into STALKING mode. She will stay down wind so the prey does not get the scent. When she goes in for the kill is swift. Have you ever seen the remains of a sheep after the kill?

That's not the case Jo. JT is just a guy looking for Coopers remains. He has never once claimed to be part of the Cooper saga. You have. 377 I will beg to differ with you on that. When one deliberately misleads others about the claims of another - and demeans them in public and to the media - THAT IS Making Himself part of the Cooper saga. Pehaps your definition of saga and mine are different. He has made himself a part of the Cooper Story (saga). Everytime there was a suspect JT got himself in the picture. Have you ever read the articles written about Jerry? Until you do don't discount my statement! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

You are correct and didn't miss anything - this is what I have put up with for 15 yrs from JT and why my story got discredited. He has manipulated the media and the FBI...for his own purpose and that is NOT to solve this case. It is all about JT's insufferable EGO to make himself part of the the Cooper saga and he doesn't care who he steps on or suppresses. Jerry is one of the MAJOR reason this case has NOT been solved. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have talked to the co-pilot and if I said pilot that was in error. Usually one can go to the prior conversation and know what I am talking about. I have never talked to the Scott the Pilot of the Skyjacked plane. My conversation have been with the co-pilot. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Excuse me again - this was the Currie Youth Camp and NOT a Boy's Scout camp and the undercover cop and I spoke with the director of the camp who came out to see if he could help us. I have the CARD he gave to us with his name and position on the card - he is the one who told me about the trees and the ages of the trees,. I never found the Boy Scout Camp that was referenced. I was told that a Scout Camp existed in the area, but the Currie Youth Camp and the Scout Camp are two different places. . Three of the women and the law enforcement officer are STILL alive, and they would talk to the FBI, but NONE of them will ever come to a forum and expose themselves to the abuse I have taken from JT. The FBI never took the time to explore the other pictures of Duane and present a study. As far as I know the witnesses have never been show a picture of Duane Weber other than thru the media and writers. NOT one person has seen the studies done by artists and the unpublicized pictures of Weber never seen by this thread or the media. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Scott died in March of 2001. How could you be emailing and receive any reply from a dead man? March 16, 2001 William "Scotty" Scott, 81, who piloted the plane hijacked by the notorious D.B. Cooper died on Sunday of prostate cancer at his home in Green Valley, Ariz. EXCUSE ME! THIS IS TYPICAL OF HOW YOU TWIST THINGS! RE-READ THE POST - THE SCOTT I AM TALKING ABOUT IS ONE OF THE DIRECTORS OF THE CREW WHO DID THE TV SHOW IN 2001. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

. So 4 hours became 4 days. WOW! Do you have a copy of that debriefing? I need to see it. Widely reported? Is this debriefing something CARR has stated or is it in documents dated and verifiable as having existed in 1971. If your source is Calame and Rhodes forget it. Sounds like another mystery? Perhaps this is the direction the thread needs to go - lets see the proof about the tie - where are the FBI documents that support the tie and Tina seeing him remove it? I won't reveal my source but will do so AFTER FBI dictated and dated debriefings are made public. Why would the interviews of the stewardesses NOT be made public information after 40 yrs? What is so secret about those documents and or recordings. I have a LOT to say about this right now but NOT in this thread. Debriefing - Public Knowledge? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have an email I sent to Scott one the director of the crew that did the TV program. In this email dated May 16, 2001 which was right after I got home from that WA. trip. I tell Scott what happened after the crew left and about the truck driver. I tell him about the trail the River Lady took me on and the other 3 women I was with and the law enforcement nephew who acted as our driver and guide. This email goes into detail about what I found...the tracks and the berm and the area where Duane had taken me...but there was something NOT right about it. I talk about the body of water JT told me wasn't there that we found and the youth camp and the man helping me understand that the trees I had seen in 1979 were 3 to 8 yrs old and then he showed me 25 yr old trees. Then I talk about the old barn we found and the old house that was where Duane took me...but there was no one there so we didn't get out of the car. I am pissed I find this and I don't have the time and money to stay to find out more...I just have that one day. Even as I read this post I can understand WHY I am not believed. I am having a very difficult time trying to make people see the video stored in my memory banks. The Winterly Park part is still confusing. Between 2001 and 2010 that area changed so much I had a hard time finding Winterly Park. So many homes and condos and that were not there in 2001. But I did find that damn Tank this time - the woman has never sent me air photos that showed it, but this made the 2001 trip make more sense. I just need to see those photos she was talking about, but even better would be some from 1979 - but they probably do not exist. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The trip was a Managers meeting with Family Life Insurance of Seattle. Wa. We stayed at the Men's Club. I have the tax reports, but not the back-ups. This trip was paid for by Family Life Insurance and our expenses where paid for by them. ! That sounds legit. The reason I asked was Safecracking's report of this trip: "In Fall of 1979, Duane took Skyjack71 to the NW for a sentimental journey..." G. That is because I have always referred to it as a Sentimental Journey. Duane wanted to go to Salt Lake before we went to Seattle. He had been to Salt Lake City and so had I when I was about 13 yrs old - maybe 14. We went to the Vistors Center - there was chapel there. He said he would be back in just a few minutes. I was bored and walk back to the Hall up front and went to the restroom. Just about that time he shows up - and looks at the directory - looking for a specific name - then he told me to wait and he his goes back down the hall and comes right back and said "He is leaving". (I have never been able to find anyone who would give me the names on that directory in Sept of 1979...NO ONE. We quickly went outside and over to another building I now know is the Assembly Hall. He set me up to take a picture - telling me a man would be coming around the corner with a large briefcase and this man had to walk right past there to get to a parking lot on the other side. He did NOT want this man to see him and I do not know where he went to - maybe down to the area just outside of the Assembly Hall were lots of people where milling around. I took the picture of the man he told me to...and when I did the man looked up at me when he saw I was taking pictures. Duane came back real fast and we left...and we are on our way to The Dalles which is where he wanted to make it to for the 1st night. Before getting to The Dalles, Duane is telling me all about this area and then the next day he leaves me at the motel and comes back 5 1/2 hours later. From there we went to all of the other places and then the things he did in Seattle and on the return trip. Because of all of this I am the one who DUBBED it The Sentimental Journey and that was a song he used to sing (he was a really good singer). I have mentioned this in this thread and it had been called A Sentimental Journey by the media. Also because it seemed like the memories were good ones. I now know that was because they may have been the only good memories he had of being a free man in the late 40's because from 1950 until 1968 he was in and out of prison or on the run. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I pulled the tax reports for 1979. All of the back-up (road expenses) has long been gone. But, there was 2 items only they do not give a location. Weber Night on Town Reimbursement for "Night on the Town" contest award. $50.00 Also another contest award stateing " Bud Mills Contest". $325.00 There are account numbers on them but NO date nor mention of the trip they were for...but this would be the extra - I am surprised to even find this. The only other trip that yr was to VAIL and there was no "Night On the Town" in Vail...as that was a 2 night deal...I have all the pictures from Vail showing the agents there. That was the trip that Mac Milan with his wife and Duane and I played golf instead of going river rafting...both Duane and Mac Milan were older than the rest of the group. These were with the 1979 tax report. All of the other back-up has long been gone. I know I personally reduced all of this to the reports only after that first yr. Duane died in 1995. Had I know at that time Who DAN COOPER was I would have kept everything. I am being as honest and straight-forward with you as I can be. I don't think there is anything else. I will pull the album, but I reduced that over the yrs. Seems like there were some pics of The Market in Seattle, but I took those out. I could still have negatives, but will pictures of the Market prove anything? Would have to dig through 50 yrs of negatives. I know that one of the men who was there is deceased lived in WA. His name was Mac Milan and he lived out on the Island and had to get to Seattle by ferry because the bridge had collapsed. I remember the conversation because Mr. Milan was surprised Duane was so familiar with the area. Their conversation included other things about the area. but this one part of the discussion I remember. It was very obvious Duane was very familiar with the area. Georger I have NO reason to lie about this trip. The picture of Duane in his suit without the glasses doing the YAAAA thing was made in the hotel we stayed at. There was a picture of me made in that same suite that shows more of the room, but do not feel comfortable posting that picture. I did NOT take the camera to the banquet that night. Attached are 2 photos I made before we went downstairs. The thread could NOT handle the full picture of Duane with his arms spread. He was late getting to the room and I had called the guys to see if they knew were he was. They said they had NOT seen him since noon. When Duane got to the room I was dressed and had his clothes laid out. The first thing I did was jump him accusing him of drinking and he breathed in my face - to prove he had not been drinking. Asked me to fix him a scotch and water while he freshened up and changed. In that one photo he with the spead eagle arms he has the drink in his hand...he was giddy and made this AHHHAAA sound when he did that action. We were late getting to the banquet. This was our last night in Seattle and it would be the next day when we went to Vancouver and made the multiple stops. After we crossed bridge into Portland (the first time I had ever been in Portland in my life) we went East along the River until we had passed the Troutdale airport and a road that he said went to Mt. Hood. He mentioned a tressel on the other side of the river where there was a Marina and told me the boat story. I will never forget the look on his face telling that story. It was not until he had turned around that he stated we were going to Tahoe. I questioned if we could afford to go to Tahoe. I have pictures made in Tahoe. We traded the Cadillac for an Oldsmoblie went we got home. It was NOT financed - but, in those days I never questioned Duane about money. He just told me he got a good trade on the Cadillac. Strange that I have a picture of Duane with a pipe very similar to the one Blevins has of Christiansen. They even have the same stupid expression on their face. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Georger said: The trip was a Managers meeting with Family Life Insurance of Seattle. Wa. We stayed at the Men's Club. I have the tax reports, but not the back-ups. This trip was paid for by Family Life Insurance and our expenses where paid for by them. I remember a couple of the other managers at that meeting but don't know if they are still alive. I will pull the 1978 tax report - all I have is the actual report and since this was an all expense paid trip I doubt I have any more than the actual tax report. I have pictures we made in Salt Lake City and then pictures made in Tahoe - there was NO reason to take pictures at the meeting. One of the managers and his wife who stood up for us at our wedding were there - but I lost all contact with them. Last I knew they were in Spokane in 1980. I think he may have died and I long ago got rid of a lot of information. If I can produce evidence we where in WA in 1979 - will this even remotely change your mind? It might take a lot of research and I may need some help finding the names of the managers and any contacts...I am not going to this trouble if it will PROVE nothing to you or the FBI. Bet Snow could find something! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION: 1) Duane Weber was between 5'11" 6'01" depending on which drivers license or criminal record you are using. Duane Weber had hair and it was not thin on top, but with a slanted forehead that would be different depending on if the person describing him was standing over a seated Weber or stand face to face with him. This description also change depending on the height of the person who saw him. Weber dyed his hair in 1971, but returned to his salt and pepper after the crime. Before and after pictures verify his hair was salt and pepper before and after, but the picture made in the FALL of 1971 show dyed hair. Duane Weber had dark brown piercing eyes. The lids had the same contours the composites did and something else few notice - the right eye seems to be dominant. FINANCIAL 2) Duane Weber purchased 2 new cars and bought a mobile home in a subdivison on a lot and put central air into it. He loaned his boss $5,000 on an IOU. For the first time in his life he takes a job he keeps in sales - not because he is making a lot of money, but salemen can write off a lot of expenses. He ate at expensive restaurants and spent lots of money wooing his new wife. A house he lives in late summer of 1972 with his new wife was broke into and set on fire by 2 men looking for something they thought Duane had. 3) Duane loaned $5000 to his boss. 4) Weber always seemed to have money even when he wasn't making a lot of money, but then he was also a thief who got caught all the time ( but he never got caught after 1971). 5) Weber left behind a few Coins - some gold but a lot of other coins in sets all dated 1971. There were also 2 rolls of Silver Dollars dated 1971. 6) Webers illness during his last yrs depleted his savings which he used to supplement his income after going on disability. PHYSICAL EVIDENCE 7) The Tie-Tac - Duane family claimed he had a tie he stole from Bobby Kennedy in 1968 in Jefferson after Duane was released from a Prison in Jefferson. This was a family story told for many yrs after he was no longer part of that family. But fondly remembered by the ex-wife and her daughter and sons. The Ex-wife nor her daughter where ever shown pictures of this tie and were not aware that a tie was part of the Cooper story. It has been said the tie indicates Cooper was left handed, but this evidence is questionable. Weber was left handed. The parted hair is more evidence of Cooper being left handed than a questionable tie. 8) A strange picture was sent to the widow of Weber by his ex-wife. This photo (dated 1971) shows a look alike Cooper with his dyed hair getting ready to go out on the town. The pictures shows they are wearing fall colors and clothes. Another unusal picture is another one sent by the ex-wife showing her holding the very same glasses that Cooper wore. The wife claimed to have sent the picture so the widow could see her when she had blond hair yet(this picture was NOT a flattering photo and other really good photos were sent). Therefore the explanation for the photo showing the glasses seemed weak. The ex-wife laughs when the widow asked about the glasses - saying they both had a pair. 9) Raleighs were a common popular brand....Weber often changed brand so cigarettes. CIRCUMSTANTIAL SOCIAL 10) Duane's ex-wife claimed she left Duane in early November of 1971 and went back to him in February of 1972. She said she was in Lawrence, Ks with her family...not Lorraine as the widow mistakenly has stated...and disavowed what the FBI supposedly stated - that Weber was with family in November of 1971. He calls her begging her to come back in Jan. 1972, but turns out he is seeing another woman who he decides to leave the ex to marry. The ex is so distraugh she attempts to harm herself and they are divorced in May or June of 1972 and he remarries shortly thereafter. Making an average living he has funds to buy 2 new cars, move the ex-wife and her children to Lawrence and later paid for her move to CA. He also pays alimony. Yet, his income does NOT substanciate his having income to woo another wife, but he and the new wife buy a very nice home and make lots of major repairs. The ROCKY off and on marriage ended as financial problems loomed around 1976. Little is know about those yrs except he met his Atlanta friend in 1973 who helped him move a damn hideabed sofa many times during the off and on marriage. 11) Little is known about that Thanksgiving of 1971 other than the wife and Duane were separated and another story on tape the FBI needs to hear - because they claim the ex said he was with her and yet she states to me several time they are separated and she was in Lawrence and other members of that family also told me Duane was NOT with them that Thanksgivng. 12) The FBI contacted the ex-wife to make an appointment with her - and before they arrive there is a little fire. Unlike Blevins I can't go into these things because all I have are tapes and notes of the things I was told...did she lie to me or to the FBI?. 13) The ex-wife denied having ever been in Portland, but during 1971 - 2 of her sons were stationed in WA. I just know there are lots of secrets about Nov and Dec until mid January about where either one of them were...but she did love playing games with me. She would always say to me "That Johnnie he was something else". I believe he was the one true love of her life - but, I have no answers. She told me about their being in N.Y for New Yrs....1972. But, they were supposed to be separated and how could they afford to go to N.Y. I know the story about N.Y. is true because Duane also told me about a New Yrs. in N.Y. at Times Square with that particular wife. There were supposedly some letters sent to writers in N.Y. during this time frame that supposely came from Cooper. I wonder if any of them kept the orginal contact information and if it is was written or typed. SPECULATIVE: 14) Later Max Gunter would receive communications for a woman who claimed she was the Widow of Cooper. Max and I discussed the possibilities that the ex and the woman who contacted him yrs before could be the same. Max made up 98% of his book although through a very long dialogue and the exchanging of many letters. Max and I thought maybe the woman I was talking to and the woman he talked to could be one and the same. I still have the letters. 14) Boeing seems to be very much in the background of Duane because of his relationship with his brother who banished him from his mothers house in 1957 and that was the last time Duane would see his mother or his brother. The brother was some kind of consultant for Boeing during the war for 6 yrs. This was disputed the thread. All I have is the brother's verbage he gave to me. Also the connection between Boeing and Shewin Willimas. 15) Accomplices - anything I said about this would surely be speculative, but I do believe that Cooper had help from one other person and that may have been after the fact...after the crime was done. An enquiry was made of a family member who was involved in law enforcement about what could happen to someone who was involved after the fact and they were advised if any of the stolen monies where spent knowingly on that person that person could be implicated in the crime. What Duane told me in WA in 1979 - leads me to believe there was someone else involved. The places he took me which I leter found without the aid of the FBI or JT have only further convinced me that Weber was Cooper. The places he took me - places I was told did not exist and places that should have been obivous to others - well, use your own judgement there! Duane and the ex both worked for a catering company that provided the meals for and airline and they also where part of the cleaning crew on the planes. Duane knew every kind of plane and what it was capable of. He had explained to me the door on the plane on 2 different occasions. One was from inside of a 727 on our way to St. Thomas and the other time was while we were waiting for a flight and while the crews were doing the cleaning...as we watched out of the windows. Did anyone ever think that Cooper might have done work for a subcontractor cleaning planes - they would know about the aft stairs? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

In 15 yrs I never found anything that said any witness stated which hand Cooper favored and I have asked the FBI many times, because Duane was Left Handed. I believe the LEFT hand thing was only stated when CARR noted the clip was on the left side. This leaves the question of who put the clip on the tie after it was DNA'd and all of that good stuff. Did the FBI place the tie back in the same place it was in? Did they photograph the tie before anyone messed with it and after? The tie was NOT found until 4 hours after the plane was on the ground in Reno. It was found neatly folded over and between the two seats. It could have been left there by one of the passengers on prior legs of the flight. As I was told it was the typical tie worn by the pilots and other who worked for the airlines. Also used by restaurant, hotel staff and service occupations. Women button to the left and men button to the right. If the clip was on the left side the man was NOT clipping it to his shirt. I have never know a man to put his clip on the left side as that voids the reason for using a clip making it senseless. I have been married to 2 southpaws and both of them used clip-on ties and neither ever put the clip on the left side. SOUTH PAWS speak up if you do so. Oh, my brother is a southpaw. I believe the clip was placed back on the tie by someone who examined the tie. The clip being on the left side is illogical. If the clip was on the left side and had emblems on it or an initial (we know this one did not) - the wearer would have to clip it to the right. The clip being on the left side of the tie - MAKES NO SENSE except that the owner placed the clip on the tie after he took it off to keep it safe and not loose the clip. In this situation the clip might have been attached to the left side IF HE WAS LEFT HANDED. If he was that careful - WHY did he leave the tie? If Cooper actually left that tie - it was a message. Nuttall claims pearl is the birthstone for June. Duane's birthday was June 18, 1924. His family told the TIE story for yrs - because Duane claimed to have a tie belonging to Bobby Kenney he stole from a tall glass tower hotel in Jefferson after he was released prison. The family shared this story many yrs after Duane was NO longer a PART of that family - ask yourself WHY? The FBI did NOT show that tie to MJ. BUT, the tie story had been told for yrs by the family. None of them were aware that a tie with a pearl tac was part of the Cooper story until 2 yrs ago. There are still individuals alive the FBI could ask about the TIE story - but they have never been approached. June 17, 1970 was the date a child was born making Duane a Step-Grand Father... the baby did NOT wait for his birthday as the mother of the child wished. I tried NOT to talk about Duane in this post, but because of what I do know - I find that very difficult to do. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Bet Jerry has NEVER seen this photo! Remember the magazine that Duane left in a safe deposit box, the one I had NO knowledge of and the one in which he left only one thing. A 1994 Soldier of Fortune Magazine. The article that stood out was this Article and I bet Jerry doesn't even know about this. So I will post 2 pictures. Since JERRY is SO SURE COOPER could NOT jump with that bag - maybe he needs to see this and MAYBE he needs to read the article of DuBop 1967. The Day Nam Went Nuclear! Jerry has seen these photos before. You seem to forget. Jerry and other military people examined these photos as per your 'teases and claims'. Every person in the photos was identified. NO ONE ever told me their Identites. When and where did this happen. Name them as the appear in the photo. I only knew who 2 of them where. If Jerry said you couldn't jump with 21 lbs - does he know these guy carried almost 3 times that - What was it 58lbs to 65lbs. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jerry Thomas just made this statement: Bill R. was the co-pilot of the 727 and the Cap, Knoss refers to. The co-pilot did NOT and does not have a brain injury and I had a couple of conversation with him last summer. There was absolutely NO indication of brain damage. Who told you that Bill had a Brain injury? NOT SO. Jerry, You are repeating gossip and rumors....that is sad! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I did! If I had planned on using an American Express I would have been disappointed. On a D.B. Cooper note, I was speaking with a lady at work today who was in the Navy in the early 50's. She remembers some of the veterans wearing parachutes and having minimal jump training when they were assigned to cargo loading. Just a thought. We have explored the Cargo Master before, but these guys have short memories. Maybe they are bending the elbow a little too much tonight - it is Friday. Hell, I don't know, all day Thursday I thought it was Friday - had a little spell during the night and it left me confuse most of the next day. At any rate they know Duane was in the ARMY and that the FBI claimed Duane was NEVER in the Army. One of the mistakes the FBI made and I was holding the Army papers in my hands...with an entry date but NO discharge date. Strange how the FBI finally looked at that in 2000 and then created or got a discharge date. Chemical Warfare - 3 months per the FBI . He was in the Navy for several months, but don't remember all of this without pulling the files and just not up to that tonight. He was also involved in something that went on near Canon City Prison in Co...1960 - as an inmate and for some time afterwards to approx 1964 - but the FBI won't look at this....This was one of the training grounds for some covert actions. Again I can't pull names out of my head tonight. That episode the other night must have done some damage, because I am still in a fog. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Bet Jerry has NEVER seen this photo! Remember the magazine that Duane left in a safe deposit box, the one I had NO knowledge of and the one in which he left only one thing. A 1994 Soldier of Fortune Magazine. The article that stood out was this Article and I bet Jerry doesn't even know about this. So I will post 2 pictures. Since JERRY is SO SURE COOPER could NOT jump with that bag - maybe he needs to see this and MAYBE he needs to read the article of DuBop 1967. The Day Nam Went Nuclear! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

YOU ain't nothin but a Hound Dog! Did you know Elvis left a long time ago. YOU also know I have witnesses - 4 women (one who is deceased) and the undercover law enforcement officer. You know I didn't rent a car and drive myself around. That piece of jewelry has been here from day one...ask Sluggo? This is the same crap I put up with on the phone for 4 yrs...constantly telling me that this was not here or there and that I was on The Columbian over and over and over. He not one time told me about Lake LaCames and if he did he neglected to tell me that body of water was the only body of water in the area that fit the description I gave him over and over and over. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Found email to the producer of the segement done in May of 2001. One is dated before I leave regarding the location. Two is dated after I return from WA. The one before I went to WA is general and expresses my frustrations over the things that Jerry had been telling me in the 1st paragraph and how he kept insisting the things I described below are some place up off of I-5. I tell her about my research and what I am looking for and what I say is basically what I had been telling JT on the phone for 4 yrs but, he hammered at me over and over that we were on I-5 and the Columbia and that nothing else fit what I was telling him. I had only been to WA that one time in 1979 (contrary to his claim I had been to WA several times) and who was I to argue with the MAN on the ground? Plus I had no map that showed the body of water I was looking for. ------------------------------------ May 1, 2001. We spent the night in The Dalles We cross the Columbia over to Hwy 14 and he told me about the Bridge of the Gods, but I do not knpw if that is where we crossed. We drove along hwy 14 and suddenly he said " I think I passed my turn". I grabbed the atlas and asked if we were past Cames and he said no and that the road would not be on the map. Suddenly he found his road but we ended up at a point on the river which I believe to be the Washougal. {We drive thru pasture land and to again what I thought was a river}. There was a point and the remanents of one cottage. He told me that there used to be 3 cottages there and pointing across the water he pointed to a logging road and said there was an old cabin up that road and and then pointed to the left and told me about a tower. {We were on the North side of the water} He talked about a logging camp near-by. He also after we left there talked about a prison with a high fence and a scout camp. He mentioned something about about Baldy and then some other things I vaguely remember. When we left there he was again looking for a road he told me would not be on the map. {a page in the atlas}. We went to 500 and he noted a small road and pasture and said something about leaving a car there one time. It was at this point we drove up thru wooded areas and he turned off the road to the clearing where there used to be a tower and he told me about the tracks and then when we left there he took me to this thing that guide planes and called it a HAT. He then later after we returned to 500 he mentions that he used to know someone in Dollar Corner and noted the Tavern {which was STILL there in May of 2001} but we were not going there. Then we turned onto I-5. After that I go into the trip going home 5 days later. I go on to say: The cabin was in the Washougal area and I believe from talking to xxxx xxxxx at the Washougal Police department that it belonged to an old school teacher and had since been torn down - a woman lived there alone for many yrs. -------------------------------- NOTE: I WROTE the email BEFORE I went to WA in 2001 to the producer of the segment they were doing. The little {xxx} are emphasis I added for the benefit of the thread. Someone in the Washougal area told me about a lake, but I still thought I was on a river until 2001 and only found it because of the truck Driver who I will forever call my ANGEL Udell. No one had told me that this lake was elongated and could be mistaken for a river. The second is what I found after the crew left and I will have to do that another day....if anyone is interested.....the route the crew took me on was per Jerry's specification and the driver did NOT know the area very well...only been there for 2 yrs attending college. So what we have is what I told before going to WA in 2001 and what I find on that last day - which matches what I had been telling Jerry for 4 yrs and what I told the producer in the email above. By the way - I did bounce off a letter to Jerry one time because I was mad at him and used some factious names that were probably in a magaziine on my desk...but I doubt I mentioned Duane had a band (only that he would sing for his drinks). If I mentioned LaCamas Lake - I had to have written that one after I returned home...because until then I don't think I knew what LaCamas Lake was...and if he told me about LaCames Lake - I probably argued it was a river. No one told me there was a Lake that was elongated and could have been mistaken for a river. I have no idea what the red car is about - unless it was my being facetious after finding my trip to WA had been wasted looking in places Jerry told the crew to take me. Perhaps reciting something from one of the Books about Cooper and an airstrip. There is a story about a 20 dollar bill - but no one would believe it so I don't tell it - because in was in the months after Duane's death when I had no knowledge of who DAN COOPER was. It is water over the bridge and nothing I could prove. I have NO idea what BOBs Mnt is! That is a comlete new one on me. A radio tower - is that what was in the woods? Srange place for a Radio Tower - but I never saw a tower just a clearing in the woods north of 500 and what Duane told me. SEE how TWISTED things got. I never took a polygraph test because the FBI did not offer me one...so why slam me for that. It might have been vaiid during the days when I first contacted the FBI and regarding the things I told them on the phone. I wrote this using the email which I had retained a BLACK AND WHITE hard copy of ---so Jerry can go BS all he wants. The next one is what I found in WA. It is the opinion of others who have studied the trip and the communications - and after reading about some of Jerry's conflicts regarding other suspects that he did NOT comprehend what I was saying and my not knowing the area complicated things even more. I was actually relieved I was not going to be exposed to Jerry because he had been so abrasive to me over the phone. I only have one regret in these 15 yrs...that I did NOT have the money nor the time to stay in WA that May of 2001. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

You are right about it being Keyboard talk, because I was upset about his continued childlike behavior not only toward me, but to others. As for being the most dispicable man on Earth - I will apologize for and refine the description to read as the Most Despicable Man I have ever had the misfortune to deal with. I have NOT met Jerry in person and I do NOT want to. The inmate smoke jumpers picture was on the WEB in 2000. I found the other articles I printed about that time about the Nickles on a thread strangely enough called DZ. I was keying in Smokejumpers, forestry rangers and prisons when I came across the picture. I contacted Doug about it - but he couldn't find it. I had a problem with my printer and was unable to print the picture when it was up... I swear it was there - I did not imagine it. Like yourself I do miss the days of discovery and the provocative new information continuely coming our way. Any of us who want to see this solved during our time on this earth loved the information - good or bad, but the bickering that has transpired in the last 2 yrs has gotten out of hand. Blevins is a GOOD example of someone presenting his subject without slamming anyone. He has taken the suggestions about getting the facts correct in regards to the basic information on the case - and at a relative pretty steep price I am sure. I admire him for what he has done, but Christiansen was not Cooper. My opinion is based only on my personal experience with Weber as NO one can explain away what I held in my hands and was told and shown by Weber other than to say I am delusional. I have to couple the above with the background of Weber the FBI seems to want to go away...and the fact they have refused to look at the facets and time frames of his life I feel are KEY factors to the secret past he had. I agree with that one whole heartedly - but SNOW and JT in one forum would create a WAR like no one has ever seen. I have often wonder what else Snow has to contribute - because there was something about the man I liked. I had a gut feeling he actually knew something about this crime and/or Weber. After Snow was gone I received some information I had never seen - and was told NO one would believe me if I ever tried to link the information to Weber. This information fit things I vowed never to talk about regarding Duane's relationships from the 60's...and the damage this caused. The information was specific and only someone who knew Duane could possibly have made these specific links because I have NOT talked about them and never will due to damage they created. I would discuss these with the authorities if they ever see it fit to really listen to me and there are currently parties still alive who might verify these "things" with the FBI if they could be assured what they had to say would never be made public nor their identity. Do not call this a tease or try to get me talk about it - this is something I have buried deep inside of me and will never expose others to harm. It doesn't prove Duane was Cooper, but it sure sets the stage and it makes connections that the FBI needs to explore and the only reason it is important. I am still waiting for a reply about what I did a couple of wks ago and thank you about the suggestion regarding the slides, but I think it is something over my head. There will be a narrative to accompany this, but I don't want it to be my very annoying Ky twang. All my adult have tried to loose it and nothing works. When I find someone to do this it will be made public and that is how I will leave it. It will be up to others to pick-up the mission or bury it. I wanted to make a tape about the "secret" stuff I don't talk about, but fear that could fall into the hands of someone like JT who would think nothing of destroying the lives of those I have protected. I think I have about said what has to be said now. NO this is not Keyboard talk here - just me trying to figure out how to leave things...and how to do it without hurting anyone...now or in the future. Leaving it to the authorities is like NOT leaving anything at all. My final WISH. To go back to WA and have the time and the money and the health to finish what I started. To spend time in Idaho to find the secret Duane had there. It is all in the Spokane, Couer'd Alene, Bittercreek and then on down to a small place near Bend, OR. Somewhere someplace there are pictures of Duane in those areas - sitting in some archive are records of a young man who called himself "Dusty". This would be a nickname he may have used because of the tattoo on his arm. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

May 26, 2010, 9:10 PM Post #17642 of 22601 (1073 views) Copy Shortcut Registered: Nov 12, 2006 Posts: 2848 Re: [JerryThomas] Speaking of “The Cooper "flame": [In reply to] Quote | Reply Jerry this is the remark you made: Would be glad to say. However one member of this forum loves to write fictional stories.The only way I can keep some info from becoming a part of a new story is keep it under the table untill it is made public info.Jerry Then I (Jo Weber) replied to his smart remark: Jerry - you are the one with the fiction and fantasy. Even Himmelsbach doesn't want to hear from you. So please leave your snide remarks about others out...of the forum. I am more involve than you know......and Galen will tell you this ---- Jo does keep secrets and for yrs now she has NOT told all she knows until recently. There were certain individuals who I shared specific information with and it was in a written form for verification purposes and on tapes - information Galen was unaware of. Information I have not told this forum.

I have spoke to Vickie thru PM's only and have never CALLED her. All I have done is offer friendly advice from get go regarding my own experience with the FBI and the media. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber