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Everything posted by Butters
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news flash ... there is no shortage of dead beat dads out there who have made this decision not to support their child. Yes, yes there are. But I am asking why they don't have the legal choice to not pay child support. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
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It sounds like you had fun and did very well. Congratulations! "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
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This doesn't appear to be "Pro-Choice". This appears to increase the choice of the mother and decrease the choice of the father? If the mother can choose an abortion before birth and adoption after birth why can't the man choose to not pay child support either before or after birth? "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
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I believe the right to life of the fetus trumps the right for the woman to choose an abortion. I believe this because the woman (and man) have choices prior to conception and I believe that the fetus is a developing human and deserves the right to life. Edit: Once again, I do believe that there are exceptions to almost every rule. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
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Ok, my current belief is that the right to life of the fetus trumps the choice of the women. If I disregard the right to life of the fetus (and all financial aspects) then I believe it should be the choice of the women. However, this raises another question. Since the women has the right to choose an abortion should the father have the right to not pay child support and waive parental rights? "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
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I (and most other posters) have not even mentioned religion. In "Pro-Choice" who actually has choices? Does the fetus? Does the father? Do the tax payers? Are people who are "Pro-Choice" also "Pro-Choice" when it comes to other issues (assisted suicide, drugs, guns, sexuality, etc...)? "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
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Don't forget that there are options before pregnancy. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
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I wonder if it is possible to determine the moment a fetus is capable of conscious thought. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
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Taking a Chicken on a Skydive -- Animal Cruelty?
Butters replied to masterblaster72's topic in Speakers Corner
Student dragging, the next hot thing! "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch -
The mother had the choice whether or not to have sex and use protection. Be prepared for the risks (consequences) that come along with the reward (actions). "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
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Would you please refrain from posting to any of my threads and posts. Your reading and or comprehension skills are lacking. I have never said I am on the right or left. You have no idea what side I'm on politically, religously, or in general. I am attempting to broaden my perspectives. When I broaden my perspective I have questions. The same questions I ask myself I am asking other people. I was making the statement that I don't feel Pro-Choice is an accurate label when it comes to abortion because I feel that there are people who have no choice when it comes to abortion. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
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I'd be willing to bet that in the vast majority of the cases where a woman had an abortion, the father was in it for only one reason. Sex. Men should not be playing the victim game here. Sure they may be isolated cases ... but if the man truly cared about him female partner he would honor her wishes. We have it easy ... we're not the ones going through the pregnancy. I knew a guy and girl in college who became pregnant. He wanted the child. She didn't want the child and got an abortion. Is this an isolated case, probably. However, innocent people being executed are probably isolated cases but many people on here are against capital punishment because of those isolated cases. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
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I understand this ... I know that I don't know everything and that is why I asked if people could explain their perspective (especially the one that I understood the least). PS: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2853191;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#2853271 "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
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Yes, yes there is. However, Pro-Choice can mean many things. I'm Anti-Abortion but I'm Pro-Choice. PS: What choice does the fetus or the father have? I believe the choice is whether to have sex and whether to use protection. PPS: Yes, the world is not black and white, it is gray and I believe there exceptions to almost every rule. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
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Thanks for the information. (Add another to the list of exceptions.) "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
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Is it possible to perform an abortion without killing an innocent person? "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
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Oh, and what do you mean by this? The fetus and father have no choice when it comes to abortion. The criminal had the choice not to commit the crime when it comes to capital punishment. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
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If you are Anti-Abortion but Pro-Choice then I still have the question ... What choice do the fetus or father have? What choice did the criminal have? "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
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What laws aren't based on morality issues? "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
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That is the one perspective I do not understand (hence the reason I asked the question). Does anyone care to explain? "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
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My dreams are your reality ... amazing! "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
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Yes, I am. If you want the reward be prepared for the risks. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
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No Touching in School - Even hand shakes, high-fives or hugs
Butters replied to Armour666's topic in Speakers Corner
We can cry with you ... we just can't give you a hug while we cry. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch -
I feel the choice to have sex and use protection should be left to the woman and the man ... "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch
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Not looking to exploit anything. I voted Anti-Abortion & Pro-Capital Punishment. Why? Because I believe this perspective holds people responsible for their actions. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch