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Bullshit. There are now table saws which stop immediately upon contact with flesh preventing major injury. Quite a significant improvement over 20 years ago. Now that I had not heard of! http://www.sawstop.com/why-sawstop/the-technology But they do come with a high price http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006G36V4E Compared to others https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=sears+contractor+table+saw&safe=active And I know there are many in between Right, so we do tend to try to make the actual object safer, not just the people using the object. Yet, for some reason when it comes to guns, supposedly we cannot talk about the object and only about the people. We really don't do that with any other objects. As a side note, I wonder if the US constitution is the only constitution that specifically protects an object. I am not against making guns "safer". But not by making them so costly to buy and maintain so as to make them unaffordable. Micro stamping does not work. Requiring spent shell casings to be cataloged does not work. And many of these tactics to make guns so called safer, hurt the poor more than others. Why would anyone want to deny a right to the poor? Anyway And the Constitution does not project an object It protects a right to own and/or carry an object. (gotta admit that was an interesting twist on your part) And some laws were just overturned last month that prevented people from carrying switch blades because of the 2nd Amendment. Oh, and knives (as an object) are not protected under the 2nd either "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Well, we are buying guns in numbers never before seen And it does not seem to be increasing the problem so, maybe guns are not the issue ***Inconvenient Truth: Due to Police, Gun Violence Lowest Since 1960s http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/inconvenient-truth-due-police-gun-violence-lowest-1960s "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Bullshit. There are now table saws which stop immediately upon contact with flesh preventing major injury. Quite a significant improvement over 20 years ago. Now that I had not heard of! http://www.sawstop.com/why-sawstop/the-technology But they do come with a high price http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006G36V4E Compared to others https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=sears+contractor+table+saw&safe=active And I know there are many in between "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I agree with much of what you are saying, but this statement is simply too one sided. Table saws are inanimate objects. However when people start losing body parts on them, we both teach safety and altered the equipment. With almost all inanimate objects, we look at both training people and make alterations to the product to make it safer to use. Points with which I agree However Table saws have changed little in the last 20 years But training regarding safety has improved significantly Just for context..... "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

. Oh, nothing to worry about then. Carry on. (I wonder how countries like Britain manage to avoid so many cop-on-unarmed-citizen killings). I wonder about a lot of things you puke up.... "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

That right there is laughable. Guns are indeed a CONTRIBUTING factor in mass shootings. As far as gun laws, the gun buyback in Australia seems to be working quite well. Total number of homicides down in both number and per capita. Guns used in robberies down per capita. Cost of guns on the black market have skyrocketed, putting them out of reach for many criminals. http://www.ibtimes.com.au/cost-illegal-firearms-australia-has-skyrocketed-criminals-now-do-gun-sharing-1378871 http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/homicide/weapon.html the root problem is not guns It is a symptom And I do not give a fuck about any other country and besides There are stories out there refuting your links but it really does not matter Not giving a fuck about other countries and examining what they're doing and results they're getting out of it is one of the problems with staunch pro gun people. You should give a fuck. Why not examine other data sets and see what is working in other places and question if it could work for us? That is like 4 Jewish deli shops in a 1 mile radius all having different business models. 3 are successful and 1 is not. You don't think that one shop is not going to stop and think to examine the other business models and question why it's successful and his is not and then maybe apply some changes to his to see if it's as successful as the rest? Of course he will. I highly doubt he's sitting back going, "I don't give a fuck about the other shops. I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing because it's obviously working." Ok I understand your point but, other countries operate under completely different models It is not an apples to apples comparison As far as the shops comparison, it is not the same thing In that case you are looking at a business model. And those models all have to work under the same rules So, I do not give a fuck And many times, if one spends the time to look into the links (which I did NOT this time) it is heavily slanted toward an agenda. The issues in the US, while disturbing, happen less often than the media and anti gunners would have us believe The same is done with white cops killing unarmed blacks. Does it happen? Yes but it is rare. Again, that is not what the media and the blacklivesmatter fools would have us beleive "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Nothing new from your comments here I have been called ignorant so many times by liberals on this site that it is now considered a compliment So I thank you "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

So now you like Bush Anyway. Good for the House "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Yes "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

As per your usual I dont mean that "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Dont deny it. It is just broken right now "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Well that is a good thing IMO "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

In support of your point http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2015/12/01/armed-citizens-deter-terrorist-attacks-in-detroit-police-chief-says/ "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

"Yet" is the operative word. I do not have to use the exchanges either But I know some who have tried "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

It could get better if he would just close his yap. Even the world press was embarrassed by his gun comments in Paris. It only happens in his America The Obama legacy A joke "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

That right there is laughable. Guns are indeed a CONTRIBUTING factor in mass shootings. As far as gun laws, the gun buyback in Australia seems to be working quite well. Total number of homicides down in both number and per capita. Guns used in robberies down per capita. Cost of guns on the black market have skyrocketed, putting them out of reach for many criminals. http://www.ibtimes.com.au/cost-illegal-firearms-australia-has-skyrocketed-criminals-now-do-gun-sharing-1378871 http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/homicide/weapon.html BTW The number of guns has nothing to do with anything either Nov just recorded record sales according to NICS checks Gun ownership is increasing at a rapid rate yet the gun murders are not increasing and have been decreasing for decades "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

That right there is laughable. Guns are indeed a CONTRIBUTING factor in mass shootings. As far as gun laws, the gun buyback in Australia seems to be working quite well. Total number of homicides down in both number and per capita. Guns used in robberies down per capita. Cost of guns on the black market have skyrocketed, putting them out of reach for many criminals. http://www.ibtimes.com.au/cost-illegal-firearms-australia-has-skyrocketed-criminals-now-do-gun-sharing-1378871 http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/homicide/weapon.html the root problem is not guns It is a symptom And I do not give a fuck about any other country and besides There are stories out there refuting your links but it really does not matter "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Actually, as shown, your post is not true. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

The current peer review process has been coopted by those with agendas "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Hey look More trolling again! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I will follow up with some more later Thanks for starting the conversation "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

There in lies the fallacy The problem is not guns. It is the culture The countries culture is driven in large part by government policy. Our kids are taught in schools today that what happened in CA yesterday is driven by how bad our country is I am not going into the rest of it Suffice it to say, there is no gun law, no proposed law or going as far as taking away all guns (which could never be done) that would have or could have stopped what happened. And everybody knows it "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

None on these have been realized Edited to add I these goals had been achieved, the media would be crowing from the rooftops Not happening "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Per usual you shit this into something I am not saying So you are saying that insurance companies are making money? If so, why would they be dropping out then? Per usual, you shit them rather well on your own. I will ask again If the insurance companies are making so much money because they are insuring so many more people, why are they getting out? Why are the exchanges folding? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln