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There are basically two kinds of group which "want to kill us". One (smaller) is there for money/power, and there is nothing you could do against it. Another one (a larger one) is heavily influenced by the first one, and it's possible to win their sympathy. Of course such attempts will make the first group hate you even more, but it doesn't really matter as no matter what you do they'll still want to kill you. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *
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what does this mean? This means that your definition of being "the best mother she can be" is very vague, and does not describe anything specific. "Doing their best" might mean different things (and different results) to different people. For some mothers doing their best might just mean stopping abusing their children. Now back to the question - so, how exactly did you help her? * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *
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I don't really understand why do you feel it's necessary to make things up, and then replying to them as if they were really said. Still, mind to tell us how much did you help her, besides (presumably illegally) quoting alternet? * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *
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Well, being "the best mother she can be" is not something indeed useful. For some it's just not smoking crack every day. So you wanna help? I could give you the addresses of several local nonprofits which help poor, and where you could send the money. Or all you can do is talking in forums while she and her kids are starving? Wouldn't surprise me. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *
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As I said, you wouldn't understand it anyway. So be it. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *
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I would be really happy to know how the National Right to Life Foundation would address this issue, but I really doubt they address it at all, because doing so would reveal their hypocrisy. Basically it would be the same as if you asked me to show the Catholic Church rules which allow priest to molest young boys, and then dismiss all the accusations of pedophilia just because there is no such rule. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *
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No, I was talking about the "pro-life" crowd attitude toward wars and people/children who suffer in those wars. If you read Tom's message I replied to, it would be pretty obvious to you that we were talking about pro-life movement, and not military. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *
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Your English is difficult to understand. Does "paraphrased" mean "made it"? You clearly said completely different things from what I said, and then you asked me to provide evidence to the things you said. If you call this "paraphrase", then please don't paraphrase me again. I just quoted my own words for your convenience in the post you just replied to. Don't you have enough courage to admit that you just made up some stuff out of blue sky, which simply wasn't there? Are you kidding? Were my words in quotes, or did I refer in any way that they come from any kind of manual? In fact I don't believe "pro-life" people have manual. Sometime I doubt they could write anything larger than one page pamphlet. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *
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For example, because they have birth certificate. Good enough reason. In case of my friend his mother made this decision (and had to flew from Europe to do so). He had a girlfriend but he wasn't married. Not sure if it changed anything. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *
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You mean the one who supports wars and death penalty, right? Denying abortion has a very direct consequence of introducing unwanted children into the world, who will likely to need foster care and adoption. Therefore if someone is anti-choice, it is very appropriate to ask what do they personally do to counter the possible consequences. However I'm failing to see any direct relationship between death penalty and blank panthers/KKK. Could you please enlighten me? * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *
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I just checked what I said, and found the following military-related quote in my post you referred to: and then you're saying that: As you could see, the "military doesn't care about civilians" part was introduced by yours truly. So please don't ask me to prove your theories. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *
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Yes, they do not recognize fetuses - meaning you cannot add a fetus into your family policy. However it's usually covered under maternity, as it was in our case. If a policy doesn't cover maternity, or has a bunch of exclusions, then it might be a problem. But in this case I don't think it's abortion-related - it's just insurance business, they want to collect as much money as possible, and pay as little as possible. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *
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Where did I say military is pro-life? (not to mention most countries around the world still have mandatory draft). * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *
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The problem with so-called "pro-life" movement is that there is no single position shared by everyone. That's why no matter which one you pick up, someone could always say you're misstating the position. Yes, I know about one of the pro-life twisted politically-biased wordplays like "innocent human life" (they use it to fight abortion while still supporting death penalty and wars). Personally I find it a twisted . Not everyone on a death row is criminal, the governments have been executing innocent people in past. An enemy soldier is even worse example, as a lot of people who suffer during wars are actually women and children. But this is usually ok, and they're not considered innocent because they do not pray Jesus. Hypocrisy in action. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *
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I personally knew a few people who wished they were never born (and they all are dead now), so not everyone is happy they had a chance to live. And they were not asked if they wanted to live either. There are also cases like multiple Catholic pedophile priests, and the world would be definitely better if their mothers aborted them. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *
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There is a choice. It's just not a kind of choice you (or Lord Jizzas) would approve, but it doesn't make it invalid. Look on suicide numbers over the world - not everyone wants to live. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *
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Well, that's you who claimed that "fetus don't have the option of accepting the job (birth) or not (abortion)". That's why I asked you how you suggest we could ask fetus' about it. Seems like you have no answer. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *
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Hey, dude, you're arguing with yourself again. That was you who started with 'pro abortion', and you're now fighting your own theory. I told you that 'pro choice' means letting people to make a choice - it is not forcing everyone to make an abortion as you naively suggest. You missed the point completely. Vast majority of people I know who are against death penalty do NOT base it on sacredness of human life. Usually it's based on past justice errors, and impossibility to correct such error after death penalty. You missed the point again. Well... they do not. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *
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Ok, so you're saying fetus should be treated as a consensual adult, and therefore we need to know it's opinion before abortion? Then please enlighten us, how exactly are you going to ask the fetus' opinion? Or you just want us to ask you instead? * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *
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My opinion may be biased, but mostly I see the "issue surrounding abortion" as a bunch of heavy hypocrites (mostly driven by Christianity), with the only goal to deny adults of their rights while pretending to fight for higher grounds like "protecting sacred human life". Which, again, doesn't bother some of them when discussing other things like death penalty - "sacred human life" is not sacred anymore. Next time you see another anti-choice person, ask him how many kids has he adopted, or how long has he been a foster parent. You may be luckier than me (I've seen only three so far who really did something to support their anti-abortion position), but still prepare for a lot of excuses. People who do not want to put their money where their mouth is always could explain why they cannot do it right now themselves, but still why everyone else should do it. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *
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But another person who wanted to take the same job did not get a choice, which makes your choice pro-unemployment! Your position is based on two assumptions: a) the fetus could make a knowledgeable choice and b) the fetus choice is always against abortion. However there is no evidence at all that a fetus could really make a choice, and if it could, what kind of choice it would make. Therefore your argument about "baby" having a choice is dramatically flawed. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *
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The fact you can't explain it implies that the "issue surrounding abortion" might not necessary be there, or even be anything but your own creation. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *
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This is funny. You probably got employed on a specific position several times during your life. This means some people who could be employed there, left unemployed. So, I believe, you're now pro-unemployment - because the other party didn't get a choice. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *
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But if the consequences are correctable, do you recognize the person's choice to fix them? For example, if a person made a bad choice to have sex and got an STD as a result, do you recognize their choice to get medical help to counter the consequences, or you will just say "that's the consequence; you knew it could have happened, now live with it"? Do you believe that most people who got AIDS just "got what they deserved" and should now just accept the consequences? What is "legal person"? Someone who's in the country legally and could prove it? Someone who can execute specific legal rights (then which? drive? buy alcohol?) I don't get it. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *
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Pro-choice means that a woman has the right to choose whether to abort or not. Anti-choice means that a woman has no such right to decide, and has to keep the fetus because you have made choice for her (hence "anti-choice"). Pro-abortion is something you just invented, which, I guess, means that a woman has no such right to decide, and has to abort because again you have made choice for her. Which, in fact, is also "anti-choice" as well. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *