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Looks like very unrealistic scenario for me. "I'm out of condoms, let's get them in nearest Safeway" would be more realistic. So by backtracking it could we say that you was ready to lost your virginity - because there are really no more reasons to keep a condom with you? * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

Does you believe that all the people of different races and ethnics came from a single person (Noah and his wife)? Blacks, Indians, Asians? * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

Yes, I would if everyone else was also doing this (kept his religous convictions to himself and not influence politics with it). Generally it would do more good than bad. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

So your God is not omniscient (and therefore not omnipotent)? Because if He is omniscient, there is no thing like "free will" for him - as He knows the future of everyone - even for those who haven't been born yet. But if you agree that He is omniscient, this means that what I said was true, and He knew the Adam actions even before He created him. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

No, it does not says that - you can check the text, and there is no word "after", and no word "had". It says "begat", which means "to procreate as the father". Obviously it reads that he begat three sons when (or after) he was 70. Moreover, if you check other translations (I can't read Ancient Greek, but I usually compare English translation to translations in Russian, Ukrainian and Polish) - you'll clearly see that the original (Ancient Greek) phrase meant "First Terah turn 70, and then he begat three sons". I don't understand your logic now. First you are saying that "The context and the specific verse doesn't say that Terah had Abraham when he was 70", and then you providing additional proof that content does mean that Terah had Abraham when he was 70 (let's say exactly 70). Am I lost something? And HERE we got a really big problem. According to your reply, the book we gonna learn how to live does contain some errors. What does it mean? - First, Christians also say that the God is perfect. This means that obviously He would not inspire a book with such a visible error any far-from-perfect human can see. So either the God is not perfect, and makes mistakes, or the Bible was not directly inspired by God. - Second, if you admit that the book contains errors, how could we know where the errors are? Sure we can spot most obvious, but what for the rest? Note that stakes are high: a price for error is eternal life in Hell. But does God tell us truth, or just lying to us like telling things the Moon is light, the Sun turning around the motionless Earth and things like that? * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

Edit: let's see it in a different way. So are you claiming that the overall understanding of God is getting improved? * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

IMHO it also heavily depends on doctor salaries. Does anybody know a country with socialized medicine, where the doctors are paid top salaries, making much more money than for example teachers? And I'm not talking about top doctors, but about most doctors. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

Well, let's see what happens when she turns 30. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

Will you believe in The book of GeorgeRussia if I claim that it was inspired by God? * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

And here the word 'still' is wrong - there is just a lot of gaps in your understanding of God, and this is not going to change. So far for the last 2000 years the man's understanding of God hasn't been improved at all, as most religions are constantly changing their beliefs according to the science improverments. You don't tell us that the black death was the result of God's wrath, and only targeted non-believers. You don't tell us anything regarding the Sun turning around the Earth, or the Earth being flat. Still every question about your God hasn't been answered since two thousand years passed. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

And I still do not understand whether the original thread author meant the classification of your action (i.e. what would you religious neighbors said about this), or cosequences of your action (i.e. whether your action affects the child decision to have sex). I understand you're explaining the first point - i.e. what would someone say about your actions, when you tell them you're buying your child birth control. However I don't think it was really the question. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

Private health insurance inductry fraud is stated as one of the reasons for raising the insurance cost as well. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

And I know a lot of them who liked it - as long as it is not done like pile driving. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

The Blue Cross rate is the same for 19-29yo. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

No problem. Here is the first, and the funniest one: GE 11:26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran. (so Abram was born when Terah was at least 70) GE 11:32 And the days of Terah were two hundred and five years: and Terah died in Haran. (so Terah was 205 years old when he died, making Abram 205-70 = at least 135 yo at the time). GE 12:4 Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. (so Abram was 75 when he left Haran) AC 7:4 Then came he (Abram) out of the land of the Chaldaeans (so Abram left Harah when Terah died) Conclusion: Abram left Haran after Terah died, and Terah was 205 yo when he died. So Abram must be 135 or more yo when he left Haran However according to GE 12:4 he was 75. Where is extra 60 years? And the second one, just in case the first one is too simple: GE 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. The "lesser light" is Moon. But even the High School students know that Moon is not light, and does not emit light - just reflects the light from the Sun. Obviously the people who were writing the Bible in old ages did not know that, but the Almighty who created this planet, must know the difference between a light and a reflector, which is no way a light. Also the explanation regarding "the stars also" would be useful; we now know that some those "stars" which we see are the same Suns, just further. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

Reading its Table of Contents, I can see that this book is based on the Bible itself. Before discussing anything based on the Bible you'll have to prove that the Bible is appropriate evidence first - which is in my opinion impossible to prove, and is subject to beliefs. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

Because it is simpler to keep those theories separated - they have very little in common anyway. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

My guess is that it heavily depends on HOW the Christian makes this statement. There is a difference between "you all go to hell because you do not believe in Jesus", "My belief is that everyone who does not believe in Jesus will go to hell" and "I believe in Jesus". While the last one most likely will have the reaction 1, 2 or 3, but previous can easily make 4th. Most people just don't care. Some people - like me - know that their beliefs are groundless, but we don't say so until they start making statements affecting others in some way - like making anti-abortion or anti-gay. I have to say that very few believers are able to participate in an interesting discussion because of lack of necessary knowledge. For example, I've met a lot of people who called themselves Christians, but have never read the Bible themselves, and know only few parts of it. Most of them never read any analytical books like "The sceptic Bible", and didn't discuss it with their minister, making them unable to repel even the simplest contradictions shown. I'm getting an impression that a lot of people nowadays treat the religion like a TV remote: you read the instruction, press the buttons and TV shows what you want. And this is really funny. I would say that there is more universal rule - f someone introduces a new entity (God in this case), he/she has the burden of proof that the entity introduced does exist, or at least the introduction of this entity is necessary (that's Occam's razor). Therefore if you tell us you believe in God, and want to use this as argument in discussion, the burden of proof is on your side. However if you do not use it as argument, you can just reply "this is my belief, and there is no proof for the people who do not believe" The main problem is that some of you want to change OUR lives according to YOUR beliefs. Nobody would have any problem with any religion if all of them kept it inside their churches. For example, look on anti-abortion groups. If they just didn't have abortions themselves, it would be ok. But instead they are harrasing others, who do not support their beliefs, and that's why they offend me. In contrast, I am pro-abortion. But I am not preaching that everyone should have an abortion - I support the position that everyone should be free to make their own choice based on their knowledge, experience and circumstances. That makes the difference. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

AFAIK the modern theory of evolution completely ignores the origin of life aspect, and just covers the development of species. And there is only one modern theory of evolution. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

So far the only evidence we have is the Bible, which contain truth according to a claim of the group of people. However they cannot prove their claim, so it is only based on their beliefs. There is also evidence that the Bible itself contains a lot of contradictions, which should not be a case for any book inspired by any Higher Intellect. If you have additional evidence, which is NOT based on beliefs - let me know, it will be the first time I'd hear it. Obviously the Bible is not an acceptable evidence. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

I'd change the wording - there are still a lot of gaps in man's understanding of evolution. But we are working to close them, and we are making progress. But the biggest difference is that there is already enough evidence present to prove that evolution did happen, even though some things still cannot be explained. However there is no single evidence that the creation described in the Bible happened. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

Well, when someone only saying that he or she is believing in something, there is really nothing to discuss about except maybe questions like "why". People use to believe in whatever they want, from Messiah to UFOs and Shambala. However when people start making conclusions based on their beliefs, this becomes a problem. There is a big difference between telling us that you believe in Jesus and telling us that Jesus (the person you believe but have no proof he existed) was crucified (the action you believe but have no proof it happened) to save us (the conclusion you base on the Bible which you believe to contain truth but have no proof it does). But the Christians here cannot do it either. So the question is whether they are not doing it because they do not want to, or just because they cannot do it because of lack of power. Looking on what happens around there is a possibility that they would still do it if they had appropriate power. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

Well, if you can't see Him there, you just didn't look good enough. He also said Jesus did not die, and it was just a show. And I again have a proof - you can see it at the end of "Jesus Christ Super Star" movie. Are you talking about this old fantasy about someone having to die, because the God was so incompetent so He wasn't even able to create a creature which would follow simple rules? * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

Heh, the God just came out of my apple tree, and told me that He didn't create the rainbow, but the Satan did. He also told me that everyone who says that the rainbow is created by God will go to Hell. Then he returned to the apple tree He lives in. And I do have proof of what I said - here is the picture of this apple tree. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

Yes, when you are young, at the age of 19 and have no diseases, you can get a plan with 5000 deductible you'll pay $50/mo for (with no dental coverage btw). But this is the lowest price to cover only very young and healthy, which is not ever close to average. * Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *