Lucky...

I dunno, is your Swastika showing?

Google "Marshall islands cancer" and you'll get 1.6 million hits, some of which are reputable sources, describing the high levels of various cancers that are a result of 60+ nuclear tests in the area. I think I undrstand Mike a bit more after this, I mean, isn't it common knowledge what the US did post-WWII in the MArshall Islands, Kwajalein in specific and maybe the Bikini Islands? They nuked ships to watch them sink. But this isn't about Mike, it's about the most criminal and damaging admin probably ever.

Is that similar to "you're the ones that don't want children to have health insurance" ? Uh, case/point. Yes I am, but how does that really play into this? Furthermore, you only want responsible 5-year olds having insurance, so your paraphrasaztion is obviously and typically exadgerated. Just proving the point that "your side" is equally as insulting and exaggerative...as your reply proves yet again, unless you can show me where someone actually said what you like to infer over and over and over again... Well, Mikey, when YOUR president, whom you back here and with everything I've read (please illustrate any dissent you have for the pres, as I don't wanna misrepreset you) from you, when he signs was it 150B (I recently read only a paultry 120B recently and don't want to exadgerate) war gift for his buddies and shoots down 35B for children in poverty to have medical care, well, do the math. Actions speak and Bush's action speak as well as his followers who support his every move and whopping 6 vetos, all occurring since the Dems took control of Congress with the possible exception of the stem cell bill.

Is that in reference to the Kwajalein comment? Sure, headin to work soon, but tonight I will post. In the meantime, Google, "Waterbabies" (babies born with no bone structure) and you will get a headstart on that, or wait and I will tonight. In the meantime, just keep believing we do no harm and that dissent was good then but not now, just like labor orgs. Mike, you ARE a true American, if only I could aspire to that. I will post later tonight.

Well, 1st, you've got them. 2nd you've used them before. No one else has. t Did you come up with that all by yourself? Why not address his point instead of being insulting? Come on Kallend, they run out of gas and resort to that kinda stuff..... is this your first rodeo? Is that similar to "you're the ones that don't want children to have health insurance" ? Uh, case/point. Yes I am, but how does that really play into this? Furthermore, you only want responsible 5-year olds having insurance, so your paraphrasaztion is obviously and typically exadgerated.

Well, 1st, you've got them. 2nd you've used them before. No one else has. t And I'm glad we did. It saved American lives. I'm glad Col Tibbets turned Hiroshima into a scene resembling Gary, Indiana. It kept my grandfathers from being sent in an invasion of the Japanese home island. I read once somewhere that the supply of Purple Hearts made in anticipation of the invasion of Japan has yet to be exhausted since that invasion didn't happen. And there is a slight difference between Fat Man and Little Boy and modern Nukes. It's a case of a BB gun versus a Howitzer. Hiroshima: 1) Not a military manufacturing area 2) Unmollested by US bombs for the purpose of seeing what the human damage would be 3) Russia was collecting and going in after they were the most instrumental in beating Germany, which ended in June/Julyish 45, so we did't want them to go in and get the glory for that venue as well 4) Hiro Hito had already agreed to a conditional surrender, unconditional was just around the corner. See, your arguments really fall flat when you see that we went to Kwajalien after WWII and tested nukes just off their shores, killing many of their people and creating a health hazzard to the proportions that they were radioactive 50 years after we were done. The US has been irresponsible and the least trustworthy, yet you make unsubstantiated claims.

Well, 1st, you've got them. 2nd you've used them before. No one else has. t Did you come up with that all by yourself? Why not address his point instead of being insulting? Come on Kallend, they run out of gas and resort to that kinda stuff..... is this your first rodeo?

Should the US? Why? .jim Becuase we use major weapons responsibly as with Japan in WWII..... oh wait, NM. From the party that loves guns and says an armed society is apolite siciety, now they want to select who gets weapons.

Be real, the world at least was able to stomache us when Bill was pres, it won't be different when Hillary is pres.

I just re-read the posts on the "where has Micheal Moore Lied" thread. I'm sensing, what's the technical term, "Flip-Floppery?" Sense what you like. I have not seen a single Moore movie. I sense that a lot of the whiners haven't actually seen his movies either, since when challenged they had a very hard time coming up with actual examples of Moore's "lies". I'm also sensing that you haven't seen "Micheal Moore Hates America" either. Correct. I have no intention of seeing any of Moore's movies, or any movies about him. Well, I'm glad that this has been established. To get you up to speed "Micheal Moore Hates America" is a guy buy the name of Micheal Wilson going around and re-interviewing the people from previous MM movies and setting the record straight. When watching this movie back to back with other movies such as "F 9/11" and seeing how badly the truth has been twisted. I strongly suggest watching these movies before posting stuff like... Moore is a liar and a manipulator and if you have seen the movies you would know that. Examples?

I just re-read the posts on the "where has Micheal Moore Lied" thread. I'm sensing, what's the technical term, "Flip-Floppery?" Sense what you like. I have not seen a single Moore movie. I sense that a lot of the whiners haven't actually seen his movies either, since when challenged they had a very hard time coming up with actual examples of Moore's "lies". No. It's because he manipulates scenes in an obviously unethical way as to create "facts" or connections (particularly to create the appearance of cause and effect or guilt by association) that are false or misleading. Additionally, he uses his own commentary to sell his lies. It's funny how you continually defend him although you really don't know what you're talking about. No one is defending anyone, what in particular does he say that you feel is fabrication?

And vidence of that is the wonderful Bush admin that also really loves America. Even if both exploit America, MM exposes truths, Bush extorts $$$ and trades lives to ensure he and his cronies are phat. Which is worse, Republican? What? No mention of Iraq? How incomplete. And yet another misdirection from the side that wants medical coverage to be exclusive? How typical and complete. Says the guy who uses a thread about Michael Moore to bash our president. Where have I said I want medical coverage to be exclusive? >>>>>>Says the guy who uses a thread about Michael Moore to bash our president And why do you dislike MM? Becuase he makes assertions about your pres and your party that you don't like, so I am addressing the issue. >>>>>>>Where have I said I want medical coverage to be exclusive>|? Well, do you want to ensure everyone has it? If not, then you are for exclusive coverge, as there will always be a certain % of society who can't afford it.

I realize how much you like to distract from the subject being discussed to get in your Marxist Mantra. My response, since you seemed to have missed it, was to the question of whether MM is an honest Capitalist. I made no point that his weight was an issue nor did I comment about the specifics of his movies. Thanks for helping prove my point that MM promotes socialism but is really a dishonest Capitalist. . >>>>>I realize how much you like to distract from the subject being discussed to get in your Marxist Mantra. Thank you, my point exactly; you worry more about teh author than the message. Those of us who actuall have a point, make that point. Those who have no point, defer to character assassinations >>>>>>>My response, since you seemed to have missed it, was to the question of whether MM is an honest Capitalist. Who cares, address his points. If he was a capitalist vs a Socialist vs a Communist, would that change the meaning of what he claims? IF so, how? Even as HAnnity says, "Lear jet Leiberals" are hypocrites - I agree, but what they are does not change the content of their message, just makes them hypocritical perhaps. So he's a transvestite who eats pudding in his panties, now let's talk abut the substance of what he talks about. >>>>>>>>I made no point that his weight was an issue nor did I comment about the specifics of his movies. Thanks for helping prove my point that MM promotes socialism but is really a dishonest Capitalist. MM is a fucking no good pig bastard, we both agree. Now let's talk some of his points. Oh, don't wanna????

I'm thinking someone hasn't seen the movie this thread was named after I've only seen 1 of his movies, and I'm aware of the movie in question. But the point I'm making is that it is the intelligent approach to weigh the things he says rather than question his authority. If Charles Manson said we should put up pool fences to ensure our kids don't drown, would you say he's a murderer (conspirator) so his message is worthless? WHat if he says the opposite? Do we then say that of course a murderer would say that? Get away from worrying about the character, which is subjective anyway, but look look at the substance of whatever said person asserts.

And vidence of that is the wonderful Bush admin that also really loves America. Even if both exploit America, MM exposes truths, Bush extorts $$$ and trades lives to ensure he and his cronies are phat. Which is worse, Republican? What? No mention of Iraq? How incomplete. And yet another misdirection from the side that wants medical coverage to be exclusive? How typical and complete.

Try YouTube. Didnt spend a dime. Yup, at least the righties actually know what they are talking about in this case. . Yep, building a case against his character rather than to impeach his assertions. Again, money and medical attention should be exclusive and that GD MM is trying to overthrow that, but that is unpoipular to refer to so let's see...... HE"S A FAT PIG TOO.

Right - like Bill Gates. Bill Gates hates capitalism? Right, Like Michael Moore does. At least Gates is honest about his views. Does Moore pretend he has no money, then? Apparently you haven't seen "Sicko". A movie which promotes socialized medicine. I haven't found anything in Gates history to suggest he's anything less than an honest Capitalist. Goos point, we don't want everyone t have medical coverage. I mean really, next thing ya know they'll want food too, what next? Air? I agree, medical coverage should be more exclusive.

Why do we focus on who MM is rather than to look at his assertions? Oh, I know, becaue it's easier to call him a greedy fat pig rather than to impeach his assertions.

I dont think he does either. I can't think of more that a handfull of countries that would let him get away with his movies. I think he and I love America for the same reason.....FREEDOM to do almost anything you want. ***As long as you can afford to Don't forget the asterisks.

And vidence of that is the wonderful Bush admin that also really loves America. Even if both exploit America, MM exposes truths, Bush extorts $$$ and trades lives to ensure he and his cronies are phat. Which is worse, Republican?

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Maybe he was well aware you are a lawyer...... can ya really blame him? JK

>>>>I'm Catholic, Perhaps they were some militant Protestants, Baptists or worse; Mormons.

I'm not defending anyone! When they come saying they need to take a higher % of my money I say "Fuck Off!" Cut spending somewhere else. Stop all the waste and pet projects and I bet you could afford some of this stuff. Oh god here we go with "It's for the children" speech. Heres an idea,-------------------How about the parents take care of them. Or is that to much responsibility? >>>>>>>>I'm not defending anyone! When they come saying they need to take a higher % of my money I say "Fuck Off!" Unless it's to build killing machines for your boy's war-hobby. I don't seem to read any protests for the 1/2 trillion $ war, or the 550B per year military budget, just that some welfare mom is trying to raise 4 kids on nothing. Of course you want those kids to die for your war when they grow up, but raise themselves, right? Do you still wonder why the left refers to the right as Nazis? >>>>>Cut spending somewhere else. Like the 1/2 trillion $ we have spent on your boy's war? Never hear / read ya slamming that. HMMMM> >>>>>>>>Stop all the waste and pet projects and I bet you could afford some of this stuff. You mean the humanitarian pet projects, but how about your hero's pet project in Iraq, that 1/2T would have helped a lot of poor kids. >>>>Oh god here we go with "It's for the children" speech. I agree, fuck off to the kids, right? >>>>>>Heres an idea,-------------------How about the parents take care of them. Or is that to much responsibility? Here's a thought, what if the parents are piss-poor, do we punish the kids or should they have the proverbial fair chance that the right seems to profess we all do?

Hypocrisy knows no party, Lucky... Wait a minute there, Republican, the right is the self-advertised moral monitor, so this kind hypocrisy is not allowed. The left allows for this kind of behavior, so how are they in line for claims of hypocrisy? How is the left hypocrtical at all, esp to the extremes that the right is? Don't convolute things, if the left is hypocritical once and the right is constantly, that is not an equal comparison. For example sake, show me your instances of left hypocrisy.