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Mine rose 100% during Bush/Clinton. For UC, the state financial picture and governor matters a great deal more than the federal picture. For private schools, it's a different set of factors. So you won't seperate the increase as I have....OK, not surprised. What % rose under Clinton, what % under Bush for you, or are you not interested in the truth?

Right, just coincidence. If I felt like spending the time I would research state and fed appropriations to universities. I'm guessing they fell dramatically after Clinton. It's really going to suck for you if Obama wins and you no longer can blame every bad thing on Bush. Your guess is a load of crap. Go ahead and check, and you'll find it to be false. Schools have been growing in expense since the early 80s and a good chunk of it is in new infrastructure/ammenities to attract students. Add: another sad cause is that many smaller colleges have found that they get more applicants by raising tuition. There is a perception with kids and parents that a place charging less is cheaper for a reason, and not a good one. >>>>>>>>>>>It's really going to suck for you if Obama wins and you no longer can blame every bad thing on Bush. There is truth to that, but the hysterical thing you wrote was that I could no longer blame Bush when you should have written, "McCain." I'll take my chances tho, even Clinton did things I hated, but mostly liked, so I'll take the few things on the chin and enjoy the rest. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Your guess is a load of crap. Go ahead and check, and you'll find it to be false. And you can go ahead and check your theory and see that it is a load of crap. There are sooooooooooo many coincidences that have have occurred during the worst presidency in US history that it doesn't matter. My univ tuition rose 20% during 8 years of Clinton, 100% during Bush.

Neo-fascism is largely corporatism; putting corporations in charge of everything - the means of production. Italian WWII Fascism had more totalitarianism in it, just as with Imperialism then, take over by force, now, take over by monetary influence. It is neo-fascist to allow corporations to run our lives. Uni care, as with Socialist nations, is not fascist unless coprorations start to profit too much. Hell, in the US, all of our prisons are corpoarte run, have been for a long time.

No she isnt. She's would be a GILF. get it right www.vpilf.com Did you see the picture of her family in there? How old are her two older daughters? Damn... Ya...you may want to rethink that: 18 (son), 17, 13, 7 (all daughters), six months (son) btw, that last child was born at age 43 for her because she apparently doesn't believe in birth control. The kid may also have Down Syndrome >>>>>>>>>>>>btw, that last child was born at age 43 .... OMG, she is a Maverick, carrying fro all those years

No she isnt. She's would be a GILF. get it right www.vpilf.com vpilf.com -- Setting the woman's movement back 50 years since 9 am this morning. Right, esp when she becomes the 2nd woman to run as VP, the 2nd to lose.

I thought the Who wanted to die before they got old. Wrong Who.... These guys, perhaps? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0XknwXqLDo&feature=related I knopw who The Who are, which is why I wrote, "Wrong Who"

Uh, which college and what gold plated prison are you talking about? I believe the prison costs are in the ballpark of 40k/year. (Florida was first hit, claims 19k) No one is getting a 4 year degree on 20k, not unless you ignore non tuition costs like food, shelter, etc. Mine was less than 20k for tuition and I went to a major state university after trasferring 60 credits from CC. Of course sincee your guy has done 8 years of wealth trasfer, tuition has litterally doubled. "my guy?" sure, whatever. In my first year of college, tuition was less than 20% of my cost of going to school. Even by the end, with substantial hikes in the UC system, it was still ~30%, and this ignores opportunity cost, which is huge. The recent hikes in tuition has nothing to do with Bush or Clinton, btw. Right, just coincidence. If I felt like spending the time I would research state and fed appropriations to universities. I'm guessing they fell dramatically after Clinton.

>>>>>>>>>As is the military spending. It keeps people employed. So, by that logic, neither social spending nor military spending are any different. I can actually see that point. Altho government welfare has similarities with conventional welfare, the differences are: 1) The distribution is governed by corporations, a truely fascist idea 2) The distribution is in large chunks to fewer people, thus benefiting a few people very much, benefiting most people not at all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No. As a matter of fact I don't think spending money on anythign we cannot afford is sensible. Hence, when there's no money for government healthcare, don't spend money on government healthcare. I think that military spending, like everything except debt repayment, should be cut dramatically. Take 15% off of everything. Use the money saved and put it into debt repayment. I have never read you decrying military spending. Oh, 15% of 481b, 550b, 700b or whatever the number is in military spending is gonna make a difference? We are fucking times teh #2 spender and we're only 4 1/2% of the world's population, does that not call for drastic cuts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Actually, Ronnie and Congress did do some things right. Perhaps you are too young to remember the "misery index" and "stagflation." Yea, Mr Voodoo econmics, did a lot of good things. I served in the military before and during fascist Ronnie, just as you did..... oh wait, you didn't serve, did you? I doubt you and I have a lot of difference in age, nice try at minimizing my knowledge counselor, look up ad hominem, or I'm sure you know what that means. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1990-1991 (the Gulf War recession) Love that...could it be Fascist Ronnie's economic nightmare comming to fruition? Uh.huh. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hmm. Why are you assuming that all employers are "rich?" Is it because you are an employer and rich, therefore all must be? Or is it because you are not an employer, and assume that all employers sleep in mattresses stuffed with hundred dollar bills? Because employers generally do well, esp in the US where the laws benefit them. As I was saying, the savings in HMO costs by employers could then be turned into tax increases for them to pay into the uni care pool, which is essentially how it works in most all other indust countries in the world. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No. That's like saying when something is cheap, the seller is disadvataged and the buyer is advantaged. Conversely, when something is expensive, the seller is advantaged and the buyer is disadvantaged. Thus, a fault with one thing (weak US dollar) means foreign debt increases and the price of foreign goods increases while the price of domestic goods decreases, meaning domestic goods are more competitive. That's true, but you wanna get ahead of the 8 ball. It isn't good to have your currency devalued for too long, just as we've learned that it isn't good to have interest rates too low for too long. If the quality of your products is great, they will carry a good price regardless of exchange rates. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>By spending less and paying off more. Your argument seems to be that we need universal health care, despite a ten trillion government debt. I find this to be the functional equivalent of needing a new car despite being on the verge of bankruptcy. Sure, you've got a car already, but you just aren't happy with it. We've needed uni care about the time employers were cutting back, fascist Ronnie's era. The debt was low then, so the debt and a sick nation are really not correlated, esp when your party (oh that's right, not your party, just the party you vehemently defend - my bad) advocates more military spending that isn't neccessary. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My argument is that we should be doing none of it. Government doesn't act in an economically responsible manner. Evidence? $10 trillion in debt. You list all of these horrible things the government does. You think it'd be different with healthcare? UNi care won't be good for the debt, but people's health has to come before that. 30 years of gross military spending with no enemy has to go. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It enters because what it best for one ain't best for all. "Universal" means "everyone the same." We all have differences. And frankly, I like to be able to make my choices. I think if you have money you should be able to opt out of uni care and even get a credit to upgrade. I, in no way think a person s/b compelled to stick with one method.

I thought the Who wanted to die before they got old. Wrong Who....

Not at all, and I think we can all see that McSame is incompetent based upon his remaining capacity, evidenced by today's selection.

So that's what, 3 electoral votes? Oh look, Alaska is a red state anyhow. Here is a question I saw on Bitch PhD that they feel should be asked of Palin by Biden: If you were elected vice-president, and the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act came before the Senate once again, and the vote was tied, and you were called upon in your constitutionally-mandated role as tie-breaker, how would you vote? Would you, like me, vote that when women are denied equal pay for equal work, they should get restitution, or would you, like John McCain, vote that a Supreme Court decision making it nearly impossible for them to receive that restitution, should stand? http://bitchphd.blogspot.com/2008/08/confidential.html Oh, and she doesn't piss me off. McCain's idiocy makes me question his sanity thou. I will enjoy watching a bunch of mysonginistic republicans and righty's will have to stick up for a minority for once. Did you see how pissed off Romney and Ridge are that they were passed up for her? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Oh, and she doesn't piss me off. McCain's idiocy makes me question his sanity thou. I will enjoy watching a bunch of mysonginistic republicans and righty's will have to stick up for a minority for once. McSame is the neo-con nutfarm going full cycle..... this is Reagan beborn.

http://www.vpilf.com/ Joke all you want, but now he has a trophy wife and a trophy Veep on his arm at all times. Think about him walking on stage in the next few weeks with Cindy on one side and Palin on the other....then think about the typical Republican.... McCain's first wife? Beauty queen. McCain's second wife? Beauty queen. McCain's VP pick?.... BEAUTY QUEEN (lost the Miss Alaska pageant) I wonder how far back in time this sets the woman's movement? Wasn't the idea of having a woman in office supposed to be that crap like beauty pageants were stupid? Exactly how does vpilf.com work to HELP things? Pure desperation that will backfire, esp since McSame can no longer chant this experience rhetoric. McSame dies, we have 2 years experience running the show, Obama dies, we have 30+ years there with foreign experience running it. Really dumb on the part of the righties.

OK, so that is so in some ways. I have recently spoken with Canadian citizens and they don't differ from that a lot, but they do like having it there. Emergency care is great, but referals do take time. As compared to zero, nothing? Come on.

Military spending: http://www.globalissues.org/article/75/world-military-spending#USMilitarySpending 700B according to this chart. http://www.globalissues.org/i/military/country-distribution-2008.png HERE'S ANOTHER: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0904490.html But I don't think that includes retirements.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>660 billion per year? The DoD budget is $481.4 billion. The War on Terror is $145.2 billion. Total it doesn't equal $660 billion. But, Social Security is $608 billion (and in serious trouble, as we all know) Medicare is $386 billion (and in serious trouble, as we all know) Medicaid is $209 billion, and in trouble. That's $1.203 trillion right there in socialism, and for some reason, $1.203 trillion per year just ain't enough, is it? I meant to write 600 B, but with Iraq spending I'm sure it is 660B/yr. And the social spending we do have is justified, money invested back into people. So you feel 481B or whatever it is is fine? Several times the next highest spender. Niiiiiiice. >>>>>>>>>>>>Evidence? Sarkozy. Even the majority of French are sick of the gravy train. Ok, that's your opinion of one country's uni care. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>We don't know that. But historically, take a look at France - unemployment arond 8% is considered great. The last quarter in 2007 was 7.7 percent - a 24 year low. Our unemployment rate in last quarter 2007 - an awful 4.8%. And GHWB left 7%, so we see it here. I think Fascist Ronnie was up there too. BTW, we just hit 5.5%, not so far from 7% and we have no safety net. Why the fixation with France to represent all European economies? Is that the worst of Western Europe? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yep. Much like transferring a patient from a hospital clears up space. No, it does not. The money is just moved elsewhere. Right, go to uni care, then tax employers at a higher rate to compensate for their loss of HMO expenditure. I'm sorry, you wanted to keep the money with the rich....my bad. >>>>>>>>>>>Killing us? Rather, keeping our exports thriving. Everything has costs and benefits. Our currency declines? That makes our goods cheaper abroad, and makes our goods cheaper than foreign goods in the US. That's like saying I'll lower my staandards and date fat chicks, that way I'll have more to choose from. Currency is traded like a comodity, people have little faith in US currency largely due to our debt and our, rather your president's fiscal policies. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Once people start realizing that a strong dollar has drawback and benefits just like a weak dollar, the big picture will be more evident. Altho there is some truth to that, 10T debt is no fun. So I guess using your logic we should compete with the Mexican peso so we have work aplenty. No, the Europeans and Canadians have been kicking our ass in regard to currency strength. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If you live in the Pacific northwest, where water and trees and pretty plentiful, but good waste storage space is not, paper bags would make a whole lotta sense. If you live the Arizona desert, where water is not plentiful, but there's a whole lot of desert to store waste, then plastic bags may make more sense. OK, I simply said I could stay and make a change, where does the bag/venue argument enter?

You're missing the point, he could die at any moment and her 2 years experience is running the show. Furthermore, there will be a break in continuity as he can no way run 2 terms even with all the Depends in the world. I'm glad John got to go to the big show before he died, he was a war hero unlike that cokehead we now have.... he deserves a spot in the light, too bad it won't work.

Thats all they can come up with? Lazy ass reporters. Nothing about her record? Her views? Her family? I just read her son enlisted in the U.S. Army on 9-11-2007. But CNN comes up with she knows how to eat a mooseburger, shoot a gun, and drive a snowmobile. (If thats what they reported, I didnt see it) That's because there's nothing to say about her . . . she is a cipher, nothing, nobody. Wow. I can't hardly believe this. Let's see . . . experience counts, EXCEPT when it's a heart beat away from being the President? The Republicans just threw their entire attack out the window. Right, Obama inexperienced, but the Repub VP pick has 2 years experience and now Obama is inexperienced? Not to mention Pelosi is waiting behind her. The neck Repubs will not appreciate a deal like that. This was an obvious example of desperation.

That is too motherfucking awesome for words! Now that he has the draw of a FEMALE who could be the VICE PRESIDENT, Obama must have just shit himself a brick. I fuckin' love it! As well, actually a bad pick. Think about it, all the chauvenists (sp) out there, the #2 and the #3 are both women, serving behind a guy who could croak at any moment..... you didn't think about that, did you?

That is too motherfucking awesome for words! Now that he has the draw of a FEMALE who could be the VICE PRESIDENT, Obama must have just shit himself a brick. I fuckin' love it! They had to get a female, as a guy would never go for changing McSame's diaper.

She is kinda MILFY. For being 44 with 5 kids she looks very attractive. Hell of a lot better lookin than Hillary. What, Hillary is running for office? What I liked is how the crowd was chanting, "Four more years, four more years." ..... I guess they thought it was Bush.

Stop spreading the lies you've heard. My wife and I both were able to get MRI the very same day we went to the ER. ...in Buffalo. At Montreal General. Probably one of the busiest hospital in the country. Here in the US the hospitals aren't as busy because....... NOT EVERYONE GETS TO GO!!!!!!!!

Acute care like this? http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/02/national/main4227468.shtml?source=RSSattr=U.S._4227468 Come on, she was black, that was teh excuse, right? Here in the US we're not all = people, class, race, age all play a part.

And they say Republicans are lock-stepped..... I won't hear of it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>15 percent of Americans have no health insurance. How many skydivers have no health insurance? You know, the folks who can afford to drop a grand a month on jumps and equipment, but cannot afford health insurance? They are among this group who face debilitating costs from that tib/fib, thus proving the need for commie care. And all the while..... we still spend 8 times the #2 in military, yet no complaint from you, ever. BTW, it's been months since I have jumped, need to get back. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>By the way, the rest of the world is not "right," nor is the rest of the world "wrong." Right, there are norms and spending 8 X the#2 is weird, not having medical care provided is weird. The US is fucked up, not wrong. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Here in the good ole U.S. of A., we will allow people to work 80 hours per week, if they wish. I guess people just keep wishing to do that, amazing how lucky these people are to have the opportunity to work that much. BTW, western European countries have laws that require 30 days per month vacation, some up to 9 weeks. God we're just lucky to live in a country where the government doesn't interfere.

cheap dollars and bad genes ... but I smell clichés here. I'm guessing their uni care doesn't provide for dental.