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Data to establish how cops get a break in court as defendants? Love to read it. I thought you, the back peddler decided you looked foolish so you were gonna quit being spell nanny. Right, well if you can find a stat that tracks and illustrates how cops get a break as Defs in court, I'd love to see it.

The thing I enjoy most is that I'm in your head. The guy you're responding to makes a rational post on-topic and you can't help but to drift off again. Please try to go about your day without thinking too much of me.

And the ability to consider yourself an internet expert, at least to yourself. Gosh, golly you are so brilliant and funny Just like most conservatves, they distort the truth to create some credibility. I said I could be considered an acft structure expert. Funny thing is, you don't post anything to the contrary. Just keep the sheep following; too bad America isn;t buying it, but as long as it works in internet clubs, that's all that matters.

Yea, his job; turning a 290B deficit into a 236B surplus. Heading off the increasing debt to 1/9th of what he inherited. Turning 7% unemp into

The dow is a year ahead of recovery and the GDP is amazingly recovered. Good enough? Unemp always lags a year os so. This recession is far greater than the early 80's or early 90's yet it will be repaired in < 1/2 the time. It's a shame tax cuts my friends wasn't elected, we would see how huge this thing is, followed by a tax increase 2-3 years later and 5+ terms of Dems in teh WH and packed congress. But since Obama did the unpopluar and deficit spent, because it would be uncivilized to raise taxes on our poor-baby rich, that was the only other choice. I don;t think most conservatives know how to researhc the Great Depression, if they did and were able to understand it, letting the economy fix itself wouldn't be viable. Unless congress/pres raises taxes to over 50% top brkt, we won;t have done a thing. Unemp was already freefalling by time Obama got into office http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&series_id=LNS14000000 And quit listening to Hannity, it'll rot your brain. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/09/eric-cantor/Cantor-and-other-republicans-say-obama-promised-s/ The claim that the Obama administration "promised" the stimulus would keep the unemployment rate below 8 percent is a popular talking point among Republican critics of the stimulus. We've heard it from House Republican Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, Reps. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., and Lynn Westmoreland, R-Ga., as well as conservative talk show host Sean Hannity, to name a few. They all called it a "promise." So, no, there was no promise. Obama didn't need to promise anything to get he stimulus passed anyway, unlike your guy bringing in cherry-picked and false data to congress to get the war going. Oh, like the debt we inherited and are passing? That is such tired Hannity dribble; how long have we been a debtor nation? It rhimes with forever. We were a debtor nation coming out of the Rev War and never really paid it off - almost under Jackson. You mean this spending and indebtedness? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms See the little red marks next to only Republicans? Please save your tired arguments that are not only regurgitated thru here but patently false. Here's the benefit: http://www.bea.gov/briefrm/gdp.htm See your boy running itinto the shitter starting with mid to late 07? See just 2 quarters of Obama-enomics pull it out? http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=%5EDJI#symbol=%5EDJI;range=2y See the market in freefall and at 7950 when Obama took office? See it over 10k and holding? Right, no good at all. And in a year when unemp s/b < 7%, probably lower, what will the drones say then? Ok,ok, it might have worked, but we will be paying for this forever. And if Obama hadn't done anything, they would call him Hoover as the thing crashed in. See, we all understand that there is no way to keep the dirty right happy, other than cutting taxes, overspending on the bloated military, and cutting social programs. We get it, we just don't like teh results and yes, we will once again fix it so the American idiot voters can reinstall anothr mess like Reagan, GWB, and maybe install a Palin, Kyle or some other neo-Nazi.

You're right, I'll just think your way. Right, but in the toilet it makes him a god. When you get thrown a billion dollars in his short lifetime for being a great golfer, he is with god status in teh US. And puts him in a lower tax braket. And if that were the case, not giving a shit about aour appointed dieties, then we wouldn't celbrate them as much ad those 50 mill $ endorsements might be 2 mill or not at all. So this giving a shit about our celebrities is what makes them filthy rich and what haunts them when they fuck up. And here inlies the root of the issue: it's entertaining when the entertainers get their dick caught in the doorjam. Part of the entertainment is wantching some of society beg for people to quit harrassing them. Is this the typical Tiger-lover: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc Just put, "tiger" where you hear, "Brittney." It's fun to watch the groupies rally aroud the worthless, non-productve class of our society that makes momey as if they just cured cancer. Of course when the other sector of society laughs at the troubled celeb and at the Brittney-lover types, well they must be jealous. Or, it could be the circus tent gets bigger with the protector's of these worthless celebs and that makes it all that much more entertaining. The sad fringe is with people like Mackenzie Phillips, Dana Plato; kids caught up the pseudo-celebrity and w/o guidance. Now they could have been drug addicts anyway, but that is the sad product of teh toilet worshiping and exonterating our people who produce nothing and get paid as if they were worth 1 million people. Again, the defenders of these people are fun too.

Are they worthless do-nothings who don't produce and just collect millions, give to charities based upon what their tax accontant says? Actually I'm a higher puller. But the thing is, I produce in life, I don't have the highly-needed skill of putting a small ball in a hole yards away or shooting a BBall from the 3-line with great %ages. See, all I do is maintain aircraft, so who am I? Most people in here produce something rather than shoot par and get applauded, adored, thrown millions at and then decide my model wife isn't good enough so I have to fuck something else. Right and allocated largely based upon his tax accountant. See, Bill, I agree, taxes should be dirt low and we should pray for the good will of the rich. Yep, I believe his facial injuries with no blood in the vehicle and his wife breaking out the furthest window away and crawling over is legitimate. It all makes sense. Bill, juries get fed this stuff, then throw in the hour: 2:30 AM and they convict. Oh, pardon me, only poor worthless fuckers get convicted, OJ, Blake and the rest have shown us differently and how celbrity not only gets you millions for carrying a ball like no one, but it's good for murder acquittals too. BTW, he has done nothing wrong, you're right. This isn't a matter of him getting away with a crime, it's a matter of him covering up Kobe style, for something that might cost the poor baby billionaire a few multi-mill dollar endorsements. Point is, celebrity status creates a false sense of productivity and is grossly awarded usually to the wrong people and I don't wish ill upon them, but when they get caught with their pants down, get bad attention, even get harrassed; so what? Celebrity is hard to come by, so when the negative aspect is there, they asked for it; tough shit. If Tiger was a MC guy and this happened, it wouldn't even make the police blotter.

Krip: nothing as usual

It could be used for medical devices or a myriad of other emergency devices, Bill. Quit posturing. You're the one wanting absolute proof on a very obvious circumstantial issue.

No, Bill, the money is the worship, the medium by which he's worshipped. I don't care if people say nothing, it's the billion $. I'd rather taxes be such that the gov does the needed work rather than waiting for some rich people who needs a tax writeoff. Like Reagan? He was a war dodger as a GI and a 3rd rate actor. I dunno, name one. I think it becomes a sum total of their deeds as to whether I get entertainment by their pain or not. It's all situational, we can dissent this to the nth degree, but teh point is gravy-trainers who get caught with their pants down, get ass kicked by their model wife and may lose a sponsor or 2...well, I can;t laugh harder. Where did race/color come in? Don't infer I'm there. You're picking this way apart, a gravy-training, non-productive person gets married to a smokin hot chick, makes his living by dioing something that doesn't further society in any way I can think of, he becomes in this case a billionaire or damn near and now his beautiful wife isn't enough for him so he ALLEGEDLY fucks around and she kicks his ass..... I can't laugh harder.

Well that explains it. I see you're proud enough of it to explain why. We learned Miranda in university years ago, I just took a paralegal class last semester taught by a local lower court criminal prosecutor, who also has a private practice on hos own where he does criminal defense. We just went over this. Not to mention the several month trial I attended where I witnessed this. So tell me, what case reaffirmed Miranda? Andy - stay out

Yea, they weren't rich before the WH . Furthermore, it used to be a possibility here, not just as of the last 20-30 years. Again, it used to be, not for most over the last 20-30 years.

I'm not saying he is ripping anyone off, I just get a kick out of people who are non-productive and celebrated, then get their ass handed to them. Remember Aerosmith's, "eat the rich?" Same concept, but I'm not advocating Dahmerism. Kind of ironic a bunch of worthless millionaires advocating eating eating the rich.

Yep, but most people don't meet the level of wrongfully-directed success that Tiger, Jordan, etc do for doing nothing beneficial for society. BTW, developing a new wireless power transfer method IS beneficial for society, the rest is just entertainment. It always comes back to the affidavit from god or it didn;t happen. I also what you on my hypothetical jury in the future. This is a civil matter, or it will be when it's all covered up and hell, the victim didn't want it prosecuted, so it is a civil matter for all accounts. I think the evidence is in and I hope it isn't prosecuted or further investigated, I just love the media slam of a person who doesn't produce anything for society and gets celebrated to the tune of > 1 Billion $.

He gets worshipped by way of million of $$. Bill, I have nothing against Tiger, this is about, "hate the game, not the player." The game not being golf, but the ugly, classist, fascist nation. I don't need to hear about Tiger's tax shelter. The point I was making is that this currently ugly country celebrates the wrong people much of the time. Why aren't we arming our troops with better protected vehicles if we must be over there fighting, and tax the rich to do so? Actors, athletes, etc = scabs on our asses. Military people, charitable orgs = heroes. Yea, if the rich didn't get a tax break I wonder how many celebs would really contribute and how much?

No, my rub on this nation is that if you can put a ball in a hole 270 yards away in 3 strokes, you're awesome, 2 strokes brilliant, 1 stroke a god. However, volunteer at the shelter, raise kids right while in poverty, ect and you're a loser. This nation is such a turd when it comes to its value ssytem. Call it jealousy if you wish, it's not about Tiger, it's about the corrupt system. So these people make a living off their worthless skills, the media is all over them when it feels good, their there when it doesn't; too bad. So grab a set of clubs, or a football, or a baseball bat and have at it. The only person stopping you from making millions by beating Tiger at his own game is you. Of course you may not be athletically gifted. That's ok, because you can also make a lot of money...even more than Tiger...by using your brain. Just ask Bill Gates. Once again, the only person standing in your way is YOU. That's true, it doen't matter what family you're born into . Bill Gates, yea, he was poor too as a kid. I still laugh at that POS crying about 600k for his property tax - what a dick. Richest guy in the world - boo-hoo. And you don't have to be from a rich family, but have great, caring parents. I don;t think the Williams' sisters dad was rich, but he was attentive and supportive. Tiger's dad too, so you either have to come from money or have parents steering you in teh right direction from an early age, then the rest is up to you. Class mobility in the US is pretty much a thing of the past.

Unlike baseball players with guaranteed multiyear contracts, golfers have to earn their paychecks (possible exception of the skins). And the endorsement dollars, which make up the bulk of his earnings, can be pulled if he no longer produces. He not sucking anything out of the unwilling. If you want to debate if golf is a real sport, that's a different topic. But he is earning his keep. I don't want to deabte is golf is a sport or a game. I acknowldege that he is the best in the world, maybe of all time. I'm not hating on Golf, Tiger or anyone, just that it's funny when celeb whores get caught with their pants down. I don't wish death upon any, not even James Woods or Dennis Miller (hardcore maggots), I just laugh when the very medium that gets them their celebrity status also gets them negative attention. Take Kobe, another person who is of the best at his societally worthless skill, he has a fine wife, fucks around and then the media beats him up. Love it. Now if a person is truly a benefit to society and they undergo hardship, I feel for them. With all this, I don't attend games, but I'm a sports nut. I think most actors, athletes, etc are really a pimple on the ass of society.

Well, there goes those claims about "I can't afford HC"... Show me out of all that where I can afford HC, co-pays, deductables, etc. A BS in Jus gets you a job as a P.O. Process servers make shit. Act mech'ing is my best occupation and that is sporadic.

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No doubt, sad all the way around - need to get that MF and be done with him. Still won't bring back the victims; what a sad time for the families.

You ALWAYS jump people for not providing FACTS... Now everyone should just listen to you when you can't provide them? It's an area that there isn't data. I can proved cases where cops are coddled in criminal cases, but as far as data, there is no agency that collects that data, so I GUESS COPS DON'T RECIEVE PREFFERENTIAL TREATMENT IN COURT WHEN THEY COMMIT CRIMES . Hell, a case in my town 8 years ago, this cop went to Toys-for-tots locations and stole about 5k in toys, they were found in his garage, he wasn't: - fired - prosecuted He lost his state certificate to be a cop and went elsewhere and became a cop. That was off the top of my head, I could list story after another, but it isn't scientific, so it's not data. I don't know of an agency that collects dirty cop data and I don't think there is. Maybe stories, but coddling is subjective and when cops are caught red-handed and are then put on PAID admis leave and eventually the crime is swept under, well, you can continue to deny and ignore, btu I don't.

Being general; do you think he likes this attention? Obvioulsy not. Do you think he likes attention when he wins a big round? Sure. He gets paid way too much for doing nothing important, is celebrated beecause he is masterful with a golf ball, meanwhile there are a lot of unsung heroes working for free. Yes, Bill, dropping a little ball in a hole 270 yds away is important to society . Now that he ALLEGEDLY fucked around on his wife, he is just another lacky celeb who isn't satisfied with his model wife. Poor baby - fuck him. I will laugh when this dies down, then his wife takes him to the cleans

I didn't hear it was Obama in the SUV.

Which is my point. Classism = privilege. I don;t care if it's golf, baseball, basketball, football, etc, measuring people by skills that don't benefit society the way we do is BS. Olympians are one thing, pro sports, actors, etc = whores sucking millions for benefiting society in no way.

No, my rub on this nation is that if you can put a ball in a hole 270 yards away in 3 strokes, you're awesome, 2 strokes brilliant, 1 stroke a god. However, volunteer at the shelter, raise kids right while in poverty, ect and you're a loser. This nation is such a turd when it comes to its value ssytem. Call it jealousy if you wish, it's not about Tiger, it's about the corrupt system. So these people make a living off their worthless skills, the media is all over them when it feels good, their there when it doesn't; too bad.