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So, could they show up with a dog barking at your house and use that as probable cause? Good question, I don't know the answer. I do know of someone that had their property (apartment) searched because an officer stated that they could smell marijuana outside of the apartment. They shouldn't have answered the door. They can't kick the door down because they 'smell something'. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

So, could they show up with a dog barking at your house and use that as probable cause? In response to another post, I said 'especially the poor and uneducated' because they lack the means to defend themselves in court. Rich dumb people can hire smart lawyers. Solution - don't even open your door. Without a warrant, they have no recourse. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Start playing SOCOM 3 or Combined Assault online. That shit is totally addictive and an escape from reality. When I started I found myself playing for 8 hours without a break. It's almost worse than drugs or alcohol. As a bonus, you have a headset and you can trash talk to total strangers all you want. Barring that, how about a road trip to visit old friends? A couple times a year some old friends and I get together and go buck wild for a few days. It's an equally good escape from reality. Don't do what I did when this happened to me in college - close the shades and sleep for an entire semester and then get mono. It was NOT fun. Zippo -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

It's obviously meant to take advantage of those ignorant of their rights - especially the poor and uneducated. Will not giving consent give the cops cause to wonder why you will not let them search? I mean, if you are doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide right? How about they arrest the murderers and put them away instead? If this becomes commonplace, they will have no trouble finding my guns - the end of it will be pointed at them. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Yeah, it's because the western states still have enough space to get away from the homicidal maniacs that pervade the eastern US. Per capita the Western states probably have just as many. Yours just take up in mountaintop shacks and such. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Screw the poor - I gots ta git mine. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

There's nothing wrong with the smaller SUV's. I have one, and I really like it. It's 4WD, has lots of cargo space, a roof rack, and gets good gas mileage to boot. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

No problems here in PA - just don't move to Philly! I just picked up a Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine. What a sweet piece of jistory, and you can get them for a song. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

If it was me, I would tell him thanks for all his help, but I will no longer need his scholarships. I just refuse to be controlled like that. I'd rather be a homeless crackhead than beholden to someone because they give me money. Work nights, weekends, and go into debt, but for christsake, live life by your own rules. Just my stubborn, possibly misguided opinion.... -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

It depends..... How many people are at the gang bang? -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

If I ever go on a killing spree I plan to blame it on my dog farting too much. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

A truly honest assessment would say 'lost' not 'losing'. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

When I was about 9 or 10 years old, my friend's family were followers of Jerry Falwell. After spending a night in front of the TV at his house, I went home crying that the world was going to end and I didn't want to die. Then I couldn't sleep for a week. My mother was not pleased. Well, I'm still here, and Falwell is still predicting the end. I guess he forgot to read that part in the bible that says that no man knows the hour of the return of Jesus. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

How big is the grid? I'll take 17 days from the day the first machines are installed. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Addressing the FIRST part, what do you propose that se do to combat dirty air and water? As to the second part, there have been many times I thought your arguments were a bunch of shit, but decided to rebut them, rather than calling them shit. That's how we LIBS do it, mostly. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Fair enough. But how is it open season on religion? Michael Richards would be equally ridiculed had he said "They are Jews! In WWII we'd know how to deal with you!" I just don't recall any recent example of something similar to this incident being perpatrated against someone because of their religion. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Christians and political ideologues are not a racial group, but groups joined together be shared ideals. It's OK to criticize ideas, but not race. Simple, really. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Well, don't courts 'rule' on questions of law? Don't they issue 'rulings'? So, what's your problem then? Afraid birth defects might be reduced or your grandkids will have cleaner air? -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

PIT manouver? We've all seen it on COPS. The whole thing should have never happened. It sounds to me like some innocent people got shot 51 times because the lap dances were too 'hands on' in the champagne room. Every vice position in every city in the country should be terminated. It's a waste of time and money. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

We have all been inconvenienced to some degree in the wake of 9/11. Arabic men should be the least surpised when they get some extra scrutiny, and they should stop their damn whining. I'll bet you $1000 that Americans (caucasian) men travelling to Iran get some extra scrutiny there. Would I whine about it? No. It is expected. If these men had any class, they would talk to reporters and explain that they understand why people might be afraid, but they hope people can understand that they deplore violence and seek peace. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

If fossil fuels generate the electricity that charges the cars, isn't this whole argument rather pointless? -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Is announcing yourself as police enough anymore? We have had quite a few home invasions in my area over the past year. That sounds like a great tactic for these guys to use to force their way in. Also, the law in most states requires them to give you a chance to open the door before kicking it down. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Uhhh... she's dead. Sounds like there is probably more to this story. On another note, no plainclothes offiers should be serving warrants or forcing entry. What's stopping crooks from saying "open up, police!" Some dude in plain clothes busts down my door for no good reason is going to get shot too. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

And I would hope that you and every other passenger who joined you was convicted of murder. You would kill someone for praying?! I will not invoke Godwin's Law. I will not invoke Godwin's Law. I will not invoke Godwin's Law. I will not invoke Godwin's Law. But dammit, it really actually fits this time!! jlahrdjyvrzkjhguueee Having to announce one's intentions to pray is absurd. Asking others to join them in prayer (including those who were sleeping and those who don't pray) is rude. You live in a country where the freedom of religion was bought with blood, and yet you expect adherents to the second largest religion in the world to kowtow to your ignorance of their customs? If something as basic as the prayers of 21% of the world population freaks you out, perhaps cracking a book and developing a rudimentary understanding of the practice would be a stress-reducing use of your time. It would most certainly be more informative and effective then simply expecting each and every one of them who comes into contact with you to ask your permission before engaging in prayer. Blues, Dave Theoretically, I agree with you. Realistically, 6 muslim men suddenly standing and praying on an airplane would make me, and 99% of the Americans on board think they were probably preparing to meet their maker. I wonder how many here who say they would have no problem with it might react differently if they were on the plane. It's like the anti-abortion crowd. They are against it until their daughter is raped. If, in fact, they were praying in the terminal, I would never have a second thought about it. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

I consider myself a pretty tolerant/open-minded and fair person, but if 6 muslim men stood up in the plane I was on and started praying I would have probably stabbed the nearest one in the throat with a pen and hoped the rest of the passengers followed my lead. I'm sorry, but you just don't freaking do that shit on an airplane now-a-days. If they at least had the courtesy of asking those on the flight with them if they would like to pray together according to their religious traditions, maybe it would have not freaked out the other passengers. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.