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statistics,that was almost as boring as sociologyI still got A's in both,but enjoyed A&P and Micro biology,and was fond of chemistry as well.Psychology was hard for me to understand at first since it is not black and white science,but it gave me a better understanding of the herd mentality and the power of peer pressure. I feel that these polls about political opinions that are released to the public especially through news agencies are released to sway public opinion,it's just like advertising tactics. Everyone else uses brand X so why are you still using Y

I am sure you are a smart individual,and I'm not being a wise ass in saying this. So why do they poll on issues like gun control anyway? When companies poll consumers,say after purchase,they are trying to find out how to make them happy and increase the companies profit by getting the customer to buy again,and the results are not made public unless the results can sell for example more trucks or something by saying things like"Chevy trucks,most popular truck sold"and get consumers to drink the koolaid. I feel that these polls about political issues are used alot as a means to sway peoples opinions. I know that political parties like to use polls so they can get a feel for wether or not their tactics are working or not,but why do they release the results of polls on public opinion to the public on issues like abortion,gun control,ect...? I think the answer is to sway public opinion. If they are trying to sway our opinion, then why not skew the poll in favor of their cause eh?

So they ask 1,000 people over the phone how they stand on given issues and then use the findings to represent the rest of the voting age adults in the country. If this is so accurate then why not just poll 1,000 people instead of having all those expensive elections involving all the voters in the country. 1,000 is a very small number even if there are only 100,000 voters in a country it is just 1% polled. Lets see there were 129,064,662 voters in the 2012 US presidential election. Divide 1,000 by 129,064,662 and you get a very small % polled. I bet taco bell,or subway uses millions of individuals in their polls,since many times they offer free tacos,or cookies with an online pollbut when it come to business and profits you need to be more accurate.

>So you would rather believe your own anecdotal evidence than numerous polls from both sides of the fence that disagree with you. First off,the law makers have voted against the proposed new legislation,and I'm happy with this,as are most of the people I know. As far as which side of the political fence you think I'm on,I am on neither. I'm not a big supporter of liberals or conservatives,but sometimes either of them might support my views. If one or the other supports my view, then I'll take that support,if they do not support it, then why should I listen to their BS. Where do they get the people for these polls anyway? Are they city dwellers,or from the rural areas? How many people do they poll? They sure aren't using the whole population in these polls,so how do you know they are realistic in their results? Are these polls using letters,e-mails,and phone calls from people to their representatives? I listen to people I know or meet here where I live,or where I travel. Most of them share my own views on the gun debate and that is from their own lips,not from some poll that could very easily be skewed for whatever reasons.

>Fox reported the exact same thing. I do not care what some poll says. 95 percent of the people I know are against more restrictive gun laws. They feel as I do,that none of these proposed new laws would have prevented a tragedy like sandy hook,nor would they prevent any gangs or other criminals from getting guns. Rather these laws would punish law abiding citizens and trample upon the 2nd amendment. The current laws are not enforced as they should be,so lets start there. The legislators seem to agree with me and most of the people I know. I do not know anyone who has been in a gun poll,so why should I believe the polls. They could draw the participants from liberal colleges for all I know.

I wonder if i should get one of those high capacity cookers before they ban them? Nothing like a big cooker full of tender,flavor packed eats.

Yes I know how democracy works,but abiding by laws that our elected representatives enact for us to live by and being told how we should all think is vastly different. Voting in an election and taking a poll may be similar,but still not the same. An election,or legislation is not used as a lever to sway how you form an opinion,they are the result of the expression of your opinion through your vote. An answer on a poll on the other hand is not a vote to enact anything,or elect anyone. A poll is the expression of opinions by those participating in the poll,and those opinions can be used, and often are used like a lever to sway the the thinking of the rest of society. The lever works by telling people that everyone else feels this way,so why don't you feel the same. Having every citizen think the same way is a tool and goal of socialism,not democracy. By the way, the government doesn't tell us how everyone else thinks,the government tells us with legislation what the majority has decided on. 51% could be a majority,but it is not all.

>You have just described democracy..... Sounds more like socialism

>Political activism is for people with alot of time on their hands. Or for people who are willing to take some time out of everyday life to be political activist.

I am distrustful of any entity that tries to tell us what we all think. I do not know one person who has been polled by the way. They use these polls all the time as a political lever to try and sway the trends.

The only polls I believe are polls run by big business trying to find ways to make more money off of the masses. Like fast food consumer polls,or polls from producers of soft drinks,ect... When it comes to making money you need the truth about what will sell. Otherwise it might just be propoganda to get more sheep to follow the rest of the herd and drink some crappy koolaid.

>The vast majority of americans don't care as much. You got that right,they are more worried about dancing with the stars,survivor,and other unreality reality television.

Said in a low whisper"Rosebud"

>Saying this does not make it true. you use a liberal minded news source like CNN as an example of objective reporting Thats like saying fox news will give objective reporting embracing both conservative and liberal views Just because the news reports it,doesn't mean it's completely true. It's like showing photo's of Trayvon Martin when he was 10 years old and insinuating that he was just a cute little skinny black child and model student that was shot by a big bad evil racist,when in fact Trayvon was 6'2" and 215 pounds with a history of criminal behavior,and Zimmerman is not what I would call a big bad racist. Just one example of twisted facts spewed forth from the media.

Are you making insulting insinuations that I might be a nut,because I disagree with you? Were you yelling with your keyboard when you typed at me?

>"Unimaginable" That congress would "Defy" Americans and not pass gun control. >Defy what? >Defy who? I do not know what it's like in other parts of the country,but where I am, very,very,very few people feel the need for more gun legislation,but would rather see better enforcement of the present laws. The very,very,very few who are in favor of more gun control do however make the most noise it seems,and will use insults against anyone who disagrees with their views,and will also twist words, and use them out of context as well.

Hey Jerry. I think the problem is the same problem that mankind has had throughout history. Mankind has a problem with intolerance and violence. I feel most people try to be tolerant,and most resist the violent side of who we are(animals with animal urges,and big brains)but there have always been those who embrace the darker side of human nature,and I do not see this changing anytime soon. In fact I expect things to get worse as the population continues to grow and resources diminish. Just like any other animals,humans get less tolerant and more violent when they are hungry and living without comfort or security. There is no way we can stop crazy, angry, intolerant people from attacking others,even by taking away individual freedoms that would only hurt law abiding citizens. These people will get explosives,get guns,get poisons,start fires,ect...no matter what laws you implement. Anyway,how have you been? Have not seen you around yet this year.

>Once you understand that the media is a soulless left-wing propaganda machine..... Yes the mainstream media never gives an impartial,objective report of the facts. They instead omit pertinent information that doesn't support their opinions ,or use pure conjecture to twist and distort the facts on any news that might be useful to their liberal agendas. They tell alot of untruths indeed.

>....prevent further attacks. I wish they could,but I doubt if anything will stop these types of attacks from recurring. Israel for instance has far better security and are far more aggressive in their methods of gathering intelligence they can use to stop these types of violence,yet they still have these problems. How do you stop someone from making these types of homemade explosives devices? They can cook up these explosives in their garages,bathrooms,kitchens,motel rooms, or in a travel trailer. Now add in the suicide factor and you have a hard if not impossible to stop human weapon bent upon killing people and spreading terror. There are people and groups who are waging,and have been waging war upon the US for a long time. People want to feel safe and have a tendency to seek out a false sense of security where there is none. I'm surprised we have not had more of these types of attacks here in the US in recent years,since they occur everywhere else around the world. I'm actually surprised some suicide martyr has not driven a 10,000 pound bomb into a hospital or school,or tried to pull off another Oklahoma city type incident. There are alot of people with a fucked up moral compass in the world,and I'm sure more are born everyday.

sorry I edited the post while you were responding. Yes the cats can be rough on their pets,also known as their servants. I have piss poor computer skills though,so it doesn't take much to mess me up. I'm very good though with chainsaws,heavy equipment,jack hammers,and have not hurt the ground to much with my parachute skills either.

>your math skills....... looks like an extra zero ended up after that decimal point. The cat likes to help me out when I'm on the laptop by sitting on my lap,but I still take full responsibility for not checking my work. So I devided 9,000 by 325,000,000 and got 0.000027692307692%. I am much,much better with guns though, and the cat is not allowed around those,even though she would most likely love trying to help me field strip and clean the guns and mags. As far as gun violence here compared to australia and other industrialized nations,you have to look at the fact that australia and other industrialized nations do not share a border with mexico,and they do not have as big of a gang problem as the US has. The US has white gangs,black gangs,mexican gangs,asian gangs,gangs from other countries,ect..... The US has more non gun violence than alot of countries as well,because we have alot of gangs here,it's not rocket science.

I wonder if the dog was affiliated with a gang?

>Think of this: it's big controversy about how the present admin is expanding it's ability to kill americans. At the same time it's seeking to disarm many/most/all of them. Kinda chilling...... Yes,that whole drone over US turf thing along with the expanding ability to kill americans is kinda scary. That along with the big attack being brought against the 2nd amendment,kinda makes a questioning mind go Hmmmmmmmmmmm