One thing about a Safire - you can get it in any size. I got 160, and it makes packing easier - as the container is for 170, and I got exactly the loading I wanted. One other thing - it does not seem to care how I pack it, perfect openings - comment from the guy with Sabre2 was that it still likes the old Sabre tricks - rolling the nose etc.. At least he did not mention slamming.. As others said - jump it - and do not make a decision until you made several jumps to learn the landing - it is fairly different. I liked Safire better, for what it is worth..