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Some one out there will want them. I've made a lot of base jumps with a Peg. It's a perfectly good canopy that a lot of early base canopies were based on. Containers are smaller these days but there are people right now that are looking for larger rigs for testing purposes. Example. Quag was talking about sending me one of his canopies to test jump. It's in the 210 range. Any one doing so would need a large container. And there is nothing wrong with an old ass vector 1. Need a new PC but other then that they fucking work. Maybe not for free fly but I can make hop and pops with it all day long with that test canopy. Don't write it off or dismiss it. If it's in good shape it's still a rig. Some wont a be base jumper will buy it to have a container to jump his base canopy out of a plane. Try posting it on basejumper.com Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

Moon pass. Every one has seen a full moon, whole lines of them in fact at a drop zone. Not exactly unusual at least among skydivers. Any one that has ever been on a multi car road trip, convoy, or just group dinner outing with a group of skydivers has been mooned from a passing car. What is slightly more unusual is to see this done solo. Nothing strange about being passed by a car with a full moon hanging out the passenger window, hardly worth commenting on, but I know at least one jumper well known for doing this solo as he drove the car him self. He would drop back and then build up speed so that he could easily over take the leading cars. He would then hit cruse control maintaining his passing speed. Now that he is free to move he can climb into the passenger seat pulling down his pants to his ankles and extending his posterior fully out the passenger window. This entails standing on the far edge of the passenger seat bent double at the waist squeezing his back side out of the window while reaching at full arm extension across the car to reach the steering wheel to drive the car as he passed multiple vehicles in the convoy before returning to his own lane and seat. Note that most of the roads around here are two lane roads. It is important to chose a stretch with sufficient visibility to insure that you will complete this maneuver before encountering oncoming traffic. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

I'd like to see how they launched that exit back then. It would make for a messy funnel. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

Tow flight. If you build a split bridal, Y shaped with a loop on each end and a three ring on the point, almost like a riser but with larger loops at the ends and a Velcro cutaway pud on one of the straps. You can unthread your leg straps and route them through the loops so that the ends are around the leg strap just under the junction. wearing the rig the Y exits in front of you from under the harness. If you then have a large round RW-1 ring on the end of a rope some one inside the plane can lower the towey from the tow plane while in flight with a standard belay device. Note: it is important that you include a weak link between the Ring and the main tow rope in the event of a premature deployment. Once at the end of the tow line the low attachment point makes you want to rock slightly back. By extending your legs you can push forward and track. It balances very nicely. With that control you can track back and forth to each side and up and down. You can almost box the tail of the plane. And that is just with your body. Imagine what you can do with a wing suit. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

I never liked the walking foot zig zags. At least not for most of the work I've done. The Walking part of the foot is out side of the wide zig zag part. It makes the foot really wide and it's not really a full compound feed walking foot. It's more like an oscillating walking foot were there is no needle feed. If I was doing really big things like big heavy sails with big wide seams I'd love it. Sewing on rigs, not so much. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

Suicide 8 ways. At the drop zone I started at we had two Cessnas. We would do formation 8 ways with four jumpers in each plane. One day the winds aloft did not match the ground winds and this resulted in an argument over the course of the jump run. First jumper, "I'm not going unless the jump run is to the south!" Second jumper, "Well I'm not jumping unless the jump run is to the north!" At that moment you could feel the world grow still as all the eyes of the gods turned to watch what would occur. There eyes grew wide the realization of the solution to this dellima. The planes climbed in formation to the spot. Then each turned 90 degrees and flew for 2 minuets then turned 180 and headed back towards the spot at a set altitude. They opened the door and climbed out on the strut. It's important not to let the plane turn and maintain heading towards the spot. As they approached each other both groups exited allowing the forward throw to carry them together. The throw is more then you would think, the first time they actually passed each other and had to turn back to the formation. This was the birth of the Suicide 8 way. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

To list a few things. Some I've witnessed. Some are legend. Undoubtedly some are lies. The distinction fades with time. Flaming party hats. If you take the box from a twelve pack of beer you will notice that on the top there are the holes for the hand grip. With a little imagination you can see these as air inlets on an engine. An engine needs a tail pipe for thrust and a beer can with top and bottom carefully removed bears some resemblance to the aft of a jet engine. With a pocket knife you can open the two ends of the can and cut a hole in the top rear of the box. Note this refers to the air inlets/hand holes as the front, bottom as the back, end as the top, and other end as the bottom. A engine needs fuel and if you soak the top of the inside of the box with, for instance charcoal lighter fluid from the grill, it will absorb this fuel very nicely. If you open the other end you will find that it fits very nicely on your head as a hat. Remember, a ram jet like this with out a compressor needs a certain amount of air speed before you ignite it. But if you are running fast enough you can establish air flow through the "engine" and get a nice flame out of the after burner in your tail pipe as you run through the hanger, packing area, party, etc. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

So I actually made it to the world famous Amy and Gary annual party this year. A wofo girl made the mistake of trying to hang with the last remaining group of skydivers as we shut down the party late in the evening or early morning how ever you want to view it. She got a little freaked out. People had been behaving relatively well or at least she had missed the antics up till then. We were gathered around the island in the kitchen. Amy was going through the left over dregs of the alcohol for the party scavenging any remaining fuel from the auxiliary tanks. She was down on her knees going through a cabinet when she found the remains of an old bottle of liqueur. It was obviously old. Not thirty year old scotch kind of old but half empty bottle left over from a party several years before old. Oddly it had a number of small dead mice in the bottom of it. I'm assuming that they were put there when it was bottled and that they didn't crawl in over the years as the half empty bottle aged in the cabinet. Of course the latter could be possible... I'm reminded of a movie where the characters raised a mouse inside a beer bottle to try and get free beer. But in any case, they were standing around the island preparing to do shots of this... embalming fluid with little dead mice in the bottom of the glasses. This freaked wofo girl out and we got to talking about this. Wofo, "But they look so normal, but look at what they are doing!" Me, "They're not normal. They are sky divers. There is nothing normal about them." Wofo, "This is making me sick. This is not normal. How can they do this?" Me, "This is actually pretty normal for them. In fact this does not even make the top ten list of strange things I've seen at drop zones." Wofo, "What is stranger then this?" I want to infesize that she asked me this question. I did not just volunteer any of these stories. I related a few choice anecdotes about skydivers, including some of the things I've seen them do with human body ash. For some reason I don't think this helped her comfort level. Although I thought it illustrated how well behaved they were being that evening. In any case. The question is this. What are some of the strangest things you have seen skydivers do. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

You're just a non conformist. I've seen a couple of RTS built backwards like that. I was told that it dated back to when they were still using rip cords mounted on the main lift web. The idea was to avoid having some one pull their cutaway when reaching for their main ripcord that was in close proximity to it. The idea was that if you grabbed the wrong handle by mistake you would still get a canopy rather then cut away a good main still packed in the tray. I guess he couldn't convence the whole industry to change to his backward system and finly gave up and got with the flow of every one else. Later rigs were all normal. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

Roller skates? Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

I'm not sure you can have both. I think that's where the trade off is. If you think about it the recovery arc is determined normal component or lift of the canopy. So it relates to your Cl. Flatter gliding canopies have a higher Cl/Cd ratio. So for a flat glide ether you are trimmed flat with a high Cl or you have a low Cd, drag. Don't confuse this with wing loading. At a higher wing loading you have to go faster to make the same amount of lift and that force has a greater mass to affect to form the arc. So you're moving farther along the path and not turning the path as much. Longer arc. In terms of the actual design. If you wanted to build a flat flying canopy with a long recovery arc you would have to minimize it's drag. Higher aspect ratio. Cleaner trailing edge, little false ribs. Thinner airfoil. Smoother nose. Fewer lines, cross braced. Things like this can reduce the parasite and induced drag of the canopy. There are trade offs for all of them as well. For example a thinner airfoil might have a lower Cl which actually hurts you in this. A high aspect ratio implies longer lines which increases line drag and also affects the dynamics of how the canopy pitches. On the second front of wing loading. A more highly loaded canopy has an inherently longer recovery arc. That's why as you down size, reducing your lift area you find that you are not just flying faster but turning radius, recovery arc, is much longer. This is part of why people tend to plant them selves in the ground after they down size if the hook at there normal altitude. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

There was an interesting seminar. I think it was two PIA's ago. They were talking about this and other entanglement scenarios. The idea that you should cutaway a side by side has been around for a while but it assumes that the reserve has fired long enough after the main to insure that it has opened behind the main. This dates back to the time when they did the testing and the nature of the canopies that they were using. There is another scenario. It the main is sniveling slider up when the reserve fires the reserve pilot chute can hit the bottom of the slider during the snivel. It's being blown right up into it. When it does it can bounce off of it in one of four ways. There is a good possibility that it will fall out the back and the reserve will open behind the main in the normal way. But it can also go out the side for example. Where the PC goes the reserve bag will try to follow. Both canopies can open beautifully in a perfect side by side. You look up and you see you have a two out and they're already in a nice stable side by side. But if you cut the main away you'll find that the risers are looped in a choke hold around the reserve. He'd actually had this happen. And it's not obvious. He didn't really figure it out till after he'd landed and was very glad that he had not chopped it. This isn't the most likely scenario but it can happen and with newer canopies with longer snivels it's that much more likely. It was an interesting lecture I don't know if it was recorded. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

And another win for home made canopies. You have joined a level of coolness few will ever attain. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

Dunlap, Texas??? I thought they were in GA. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

No that was a russion canopy. The Jumbo was just a over grown big boy pc. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

I don't think I'm that far off. Quebec: Briton and France were contending for control of northern NA. France lost the French Indian war. All the northern lands were ceded to England. The Quebec french are the descendants of the people that never went home. It was just too hard to chase them all down in that vast wilderness. As long as they didn't rock the boat too much, England let them be. Today they're mostly grouped in an isolated pocket around Montreal. But in fairness that's true of most of Canada. Lot's of empty. The European decedents tend to huddle in there cities in the south. Most of the rural population is aboriginal. And they are weird. Every one agrees on this. Don't get me wrong I have or had friends that were Quebec french till he flew into a mountain. They've just never accepted that they lost the war and that their asses belong to England or Canada now and assimilated. Genocide: Over the last decade or two there has been a lot of archaeology that has come to light concerning pre Colombian civilizations. Eventually they will get around to writing new text books but it turns out that there was a vast history on this continent. For a long time people assumed that the tribes and culture that we encountered as we expanded across america were the aboriginal civilizations. Turns out that they were already dead or in decline before we reached them. Look up Mound builders. Some of these settlements were huge. Large well established societies. But by the time we reached them they were already long gone. There been a lot written about this recently. I'll suggest some of the more popular books. 1491 Easily readable. It's basically a collection of a lot of research by a journalist but it brings together some of the recent work in a very accessible source. It deals with the shape and fall of pre Colombian culture. And it looks like these civilizations were wider spread and more organised then any one ever believed. Guns Germs and Steal This is kind of a case study of what happens when different groups run into each other. It's not bad but it's really a collection of antidotes. He tries to explain why one group prevails over another. So beyond the actual history of the events it's really his conjecture but it's thought provoking and he raises some interesting points. Collapse It's about why civilizations fall. This does seem to be a repetitive theme in history and I've always been interested in it. I was a little dessipointed in this book. I think he could have gone further with it but he spent most of his time on climate and it's affect on the viability of civilizations. It wasn't bad and there are some good examples for his arguments but I think there is more to some of the stories. It does touch on some of the collapses here in NA that occurred long before we arrived. Like I said there is a lot of story here. As to the story of blankets. That ones been around for years. I'm not sure where it originally came from. It's discussed in a couple of these books. As far as they could tell it never really happened at least not in the intentional since like it normally pertrade in the movies. There was maybe one indecent but it was not a wide spread campaign. This is drifting a little off the original subject but it all kind of relates together into the ebb and flow of people and cultures and civilizations. How urban centers rise up and then fall into decay and on the larger scale the same thing happens to whole nations and empires. I think it's interesting. We see the same process happening around us right now. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

Sorry if I get long winded. I'm ether super busy here or totally board. They really don't have enough work to keep me busy full time. I'm not very good at it but I was really trying to be coherent. Base question: would the removal of immigration law law cause total chaos. My response: No because it's not the main impediment. My arguments: Financial ability, opportunity, the ability to survive once there play a bigger part. Migration, regardless of the scale, be it by neighborhood or country, is self balancing and the ebb and flow of economy/environment will self correct any imbalance. Human interference in this based on our misconceptions or less then honorable intentions leads to the most vilant oscillation and unrest in society. Cultures are not all equal. Some are more aggressive then others. Some more robust, better suited to survive. Some more suited to progress and others prone to stagnation. It is not surprising that when two meet that one will dominate, supplant the other. This is all part of why populations move and what happens when they collide with each other. I don't think any of this is irrelevant. As to the fate of the aboriginal native american Indianans. It's real simple. They lost. It's not some thing any of us should feel bad about. It's just what happened. And it really wasn't any thing we did, at least not intentionally. The seeds of those events had been building up for thousands of years. There are several interesting books on the subject of the collapse of the native american cultures. There are a lot of reasons why they basically went extinct. Estimates range from a die off of 85% to 95% of the population of the new world. A restricted almost inbred genetic pool. A high degree of isolation. Limited immunity to disease. Limitations on technical development due to limited availability of suitable animals for domestication. Basically they ran into a much more aggressive culture. We grew up in a very competitive environment. Then some one coughed and it was all over. Thing is 95% of the people we "slaughtered" in our "Genocide" of the aboriginal Americans never met a white man. In fact their deaths ran ahead of European expansion by... 150 to 200 years. By the time we reached them the great nations in america were already long gone. The tribes we met were just the remnants left over generations after the apocalypses. The Sue were not some noble race. They were the left overs. They were like the gangs wondering the waist lands of their fallen civilization like in the old post apocalyptic movies that were big back in the 80's. The Apaches were road warriors. Think Mad Max. We just expanded into the void that they left behind. The Indian wars were just us pushing the last few survivors out of our way. If we'd met them in their prime... I'm not sure we would have won. We had technological advantages but not that great. Muzzle loaders aren't that much better then a bow. At least the British had metallic cartridges when they faced the Zulu and even then it was touch and go. My point is don't feel bad about your ancestry or the fact that you are descended from the winners in the conflict. Law. Quebec, well those people are just weird. French men that never went home. An isolated pocket of subculture. We actually have some thing similar here. Louisiana is basically the same. French heritage. The state law is actually derived from french law. It's unlike any thing else in the country. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

As to mexico, I don't see it as a geographic question so much as a cultural one. Mexico and many of the central and south american countries were founded by Spain. It's an interesting case study. There was a time when Mexico was the cultural center of north america. The US were just some up start colonies with delusions of grandeur. Mexico was civilization. In every measurable way mexico was far ahead of the US. It's not really disadvantaged even today. It has substantial natural resources, oil, mineral, etc. It has every thing it ever needed to become the dominant north american power and it had a head start on the colonies and Canada. The difference was in the culture. Spain brought the Spanish court with them and all the corruption that it entails. It is so ingrained in the culture of these countries that they have never recovered from it. Where as the US and Canada were founded on much different principles. English law. The idea that all men are created equal. So even though we started the race from well behind, look who landed a man on the moon. Where as the corruption in mexico has boiled over till it's basically a failed state. Another example is India. I'm speaking in the larger since to include India, Pakistan, and... Burma? What's that little chunk that got shaved off the east end. The point is that it was all one country. Totally even playing field. They were granted independence and imeadeantly started a civil war. Which didn't end till the British told all the muslems and Hindus to go to there own corners, "and stop touching each other." "Do not make me pull this country over again or you will regret it!" Now look at them. One a growing international power in IT and manufacturing. The other a shit hole. So I say that the US and Canada are north america. Mexico is part of central. Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

Ok, I'm on my soap box so I'll go a little further. What does a society look like? If we look at it on a graph of wealth vs population. Poor at one end, rich at the other, it can take different shapes. A bell curve with a large middle class. A big U sloped to one side with a large poor and a very few rich with almost no middle class. A lot of this seem to relate to the technological level in the society. When there is nothing but human mussel power you wind up with a big U. think slave societies, Egypt, Middle ages Europe, the pre civil war south. When man is the draft animal you need slaves to support your civilization. For a while we had a bell with a growing middle class. Now the scale on the graph is becoming stretched to the right so far that when you integrate under to curve you find that that little tip under the end of the graph contains so much wealth that it out weighs all of the rest of the graph combined. To the point that it's devaluing the wealth of the bell of the middle class and the inflation is almost returning them to the poor in of the scale. People talk about the shape of this graph as if there is a right or wrong to it. Like there is a shape that we should strive for. That a bell curve is the ideal. I'm not convinced that a society can ever have a stable shape to that curve. I think that trying to force it into your ideal shape through manipulation of the economy is self defeating. I have a suspicion that it will ebb and flow with time pushed by large macro economic events and that our manipulations are damaging to it. Big pushers like shifts in the world economy, and waves through the population curve I think are the real drivers. If you want to influence it in a real way you have to look beyond the quarter or year end. You have to influence it's growth on a generational pattern. If you could improve education and influence population growth based on socioeconomic placement you might be able to exorcise some real control. And yes, I mean things like telling a poor woman that she doesn't have enough money to to have a baby. Think China with it's brutal one child policy. Or think Japan trying to promote child birth to fend off a population decline. The world economy is a shifting thing. It's hard to stay on top. and if the hill gets too high then it collapses when every one else is too poor for you to sell to. It's interesting. Looking back to when England was the economic ruler of the world but then was almost bankrupted by china in it's one sided trade in tea. China demanded hard payment and England resorted to smuggling opium into the country to balance the trade in silver. Or how America prospered after WWII when it's economy expanded into the vacuum left by the countries shattered by the war. It was one of the few industrial powers remaining. And how it was driven by the wave that ran through it's population following the war. As we ran out of natural resources industries shifted to other areas of the world. There is no more iron easily mined in the US. It and all associated industries have moved to other countries. We try to pretend that it doesn't matter but it's a net flow of wealth out of the country. We've run out of "tea" to sell and now we are having to buy it from other countries. My point in all this is that I think economies and societies are inherently unstable. It you try to keep it in stasis you are going to lose. If you want to prosper, I'm talking long term multi generation ally, you have to take a longer view and act aggressively to put your self in a long term dominant position. I think we need to think more about the global flow of wealth and learn to act more in our own best interest. We have to find the next "tea" and not buy opium with silver. I think the key to success, I'm speaking as an american, is to pay more attention to global trade balances. This is one of the reasons that I voted for Trump. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

At first I wasn't sure I understood your question. Total freedom of movement would almost imply that you could just snap your fingers and teleport. So if you mean abolishing immigration law, I don't think it would be that much different then what we see now. That's mainly because the laws are not the most powerful or at least not the only barer to movement. A lot of it is economic and opportunity. Home prices keep the riffraff out of the nicer neighborhoods. People live in slums because that's what they can afford. When some one comes in and upgrades to better housing with the enviable increases in cost they complain. Not because they want to live in a dump but because they can't afford the nicer housing. Some how this is seen as unfair to them and gentrification is seen as some how unjust bordering on a crime. The truth is that there is a natural balance between the haves and have not's. It really only becomes a problem when people try to tamper with that balance. There is a certain spread of jobs across the income strata. If left alone a population will ebb and flow to accommodate that. Things become out of whack when people try to tamper with that natural process. Examples... And I'm not being cruel here I'm just pointing things out. A company wants cheep labor so they pass out pamphlets across the country advertising work. People flow in and the excess labor pool drops the cost when the area is flooded by the unemployed. See the 1930's. Laws, building codes, zoning, prevent affordable/slum housing from being build. Property values go up but labor cost rise do to the cost of living even for menial jobs. See San Francisco. Section 8 housing, forced renting to essentially homeless individuals, is mandated in an area by progressives wishing diversify the community. The influx of poor triggers a crime wave dropping property values and causing a economic decline in the area. Charity organizations, WHO, the UN, church groups, etc. decide to be benevolent and cure the ills in a country. They introduce basic health care, vaccines, basic sanitation, clean water, etc. Populations explode as the rate of child mortality drops leading to over population for the environment. Over grazing, desertification, drought famine, all from the best of intentions. See Africa. War, famine, economy, drive a natural migration from one area to another. "Refugee immigrants" flood into a prosperous country. Some will integrate into the economy but most will not be able to adjust lacking basic necessary skills to survive in this culture, ex. speaking the language. Historically a certain percentage would starve on the streets and the immigration would slow or stop. A problem arises when a social support structure interferes with this natural balance and a large group of dispossessed persons not integrated into the society is allowed to build up with in a country. Cultural clashes follow. See Europe. So I kind of see this as a self correcting problem. I think a lot of the issues result from our own interference. For example, not letting people starve. On the surface all of these things seem like good and moral actions but they put things out of whack, some times not for the best or at least promoting oscillation, some times violent ones, in the society. It's a long view, big picture kind of thing. And yes, I'm a bit of a dick but there is truth in this. Lee By the way, what is "sc..."? Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

As it just so happens I just bought the first 5 seasons of south park on DVD. The moment I saw this I imeadently thought of this scene that I was watching in their introduction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmSdUR6toDo Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

That's AWESOME. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

I'm a little confused. How did this become a conversation about canopy skills? I'm a pretty good canopy pilot by any reasonable standard. Flew the outer wing on some CRW world record attempts. All of the unsuccessful ones but I don't think that relevant. I've landed off. Sooner or later every one lands off. When you have a long spot, a perfectly good spot, but you wind up losing thousands of feet under a radically spinning main from a hard cutaway... you land off. Some times in a fucking subdivision in a back yard. Landing off is a good way to get hurt some times badly. Being able to find a missing jumper or student or just being able to know where to pick him up. When you're at a strange drop zone you don't know the area. Calling and saying that you're in a field with a cow and a tree by some road is not good directions. That's if you can call at all. I don't see this as a bad or silly idea. He does come off as kind of a tool wanting us all to jump on board and tell him that he will make millions of dollars selling thousands of phones to dropzones across the world. I'm being honest when I say that I just don't see that happening. I think it's an interesting idea but that it might take a slightly different form. There are almost off the shelf products that would do this. If nothing else that implies that this could be done. If he has the skills I don't see why he couldn't make this work. And I see no reason to discourage him, even if he is a bit of a tool. If he can build a better mouse trap, even incrementally, more power to him. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

I don't think it's a bad idea. But I think you may need to rethink how you go about it. I don't think you're going to sell a bunch of phones to a drop zone. But what you might be able to do is write an app that would report marker position and identity back to a map on their computer. Even I have a smart phone. All the drop zone would have to buy is the app for their computer. Have a small sign at manifest with the name of the app, how to down load it and sign in on their own phone. From then on when ever they show up at the DZ they just pull up the app along with turning on their cyperes and the DZ can see where they are. No need for any hard wear. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com

Interesting idea. Smart phones are close to universal now a days. There's already soft wear out there for parents to track their kids. It wouldn't take a lot to extend it so the DZ could watch a map at manifest with little dots for those landed off. I had a friend die when he landed off away from the boogie where no one could hear him. We never knew how long he lay there before he died but he had taken part of his rig off and tried to crawl out of it. No one missed him, they just thought he'd landed some where else, it was a big boogie. It wasn't until later that day that some one found the body. A way to take a head count after a load is not a bad thing. There are apps that sign you in and out of work when you enter or leave a facility. Even just the ability to see a dot setting out in a field and be able to click on it and see that it's Bob, maybe call him and ask if he's hurt. There was another case where a guy laid out in a field with a back injury for an hour while we looked for him. We could not find him. He wound up paralyzed. Often with a spinal injury the spine is not actually severed but just the swelling around the injury can put pressure on the spinal cord. That pressure can cause permanent injury. If you get to them early enough there are medicines that can help with the swelling. I always wondered how it would have turned out for him if we hadn't spent all that time driving all over the country looking for his ass. It might not be a bad thing to sign into your local DZ app at the beginning of the day so they could see where you land out. If you're injured and can't call for help they could still find you. Lee Lee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com