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*standing double golfclap* I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

I love that movie! I bought it for my PSP and have watched it three times already. It's great for long movies. SWEET I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

But what you're describing about heterosexual marriage isn't what it SHOULD be, what it's designed TO be, and very few would argue against THAT. That argument you posit is falacious. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Well, except for the use of that one single word, it really doesn't; in fact, my post is almost entirely analysis without emotion. Perhaps I might instead have used the term, "relegating homosexuals to second-class citizenship"; but I sense that you're not really trying to get bogged down on semantics. At least you didn't cavalierly dismiss my post with a back-handed non-answer the way Windcatcher did; you presented your own carefully-considered analysis at length, which spoke to some of the same issues I raised, and I respect that. Our fundamental disagreement is that you consider homosexuality as brokenness as if it were a disease that must either be suffered with as incurable, like multiple sclerosis, or which, given the right treatment, can be successfully de-programmed out of a person, like a gambling addiction or kleptomania. And that, with all due respect to you, is what I think is a load of shit. I stand by my belief that homosexuality is hard-wired into the brain from birth. It's not a disorder; it's simply a less-common orientation occurring in nature, the way left-handedness is as compared to right-handedness. And I guess that pretty much sets the "bookends" for the debate. thanks for the reply. i'm glad we can keep this respectful, and i'm sorry for my testiness at the end of my last post. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

NOW you're talkin!!! I didn't even THINK of that! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

As it is an active lifestyle choice for someone to live as an active heterosexual. Right? Wendy W. yes... i choose to live as an active heterosexual. just as I can choose to be a celibate heterosexual. i'm not a slave to my sexuality. but like I said, I also believe that homosexuality is not healthy. In some cases, I believe it can be changed. In others, especially if they have been active in homosexual activity for a very long time and there is a degree of sexual addition involved, changing the orientation may be as difficult to change as it is for a pedophile to change his "orientation" to children. It's actually quite similar, this "cathexis" of one's sexual attraction for persons or items other than adults of the opposite sex. I know you and others disagree w/ me and I'm cool with it. If others who are gay don't think it's unhealthy, well there ya go. I'm not responsible for their lives. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

I'm sorry, losing her what now? Woah! Hold the phone! A late entry has jockeyed up and taken the podium! DING DING! We have a NEW WINNER!!!! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

you and i disagree fundamentally on what "causes" homosexuality. as it stands, it will, in my world-view, always be a lifestyle choice for someone to live as an active homosexual. I know people who have homosexual orientations who are celibate because they see their orientation as being disordered. I also know people where I live who no longer identify themselves as homosexual at all, but rather as homosexual. But in order to maintain the "party line" of the "lifestyle" very few in the "pro-gay" camp will acknowledge that these people, men and women both, are doing anything but repressing who "they really are. What a load of shit. One of them, a man named Scott McDermott, is my youngest daughter's Godfather. I can tell you, we've had many indepth conversations on the matter. He has a solidly heterosexual orientation and this is AFTER being solidly entrenched in the homosexual lifestyle all of his adult life and as far back as early highschool. To address another point you made... the totality of one's being is not tied up solely in their sexual orientation. My friends don't address me as that heterosexual guy, Michael. That is why I can befriend gays and lesbians just as easily as I can a fellow Catholic. I have friends who have drinking problems. Some choose to fight it, some don't. I love both. Does this mean I see the homosexual as somehow broken? Yes. I see the homosexual orientation as unhealthy. Big deal. Are they less of a human because of it? Hell no. Are they less deserving of happiness and love? Hell no. Are they less deserving of compassion? Housing? Insurance benefits? Hell no. I have plenty of brokeness as well... I used to be a drug addict... I can easily go back to that, at any time. I still am a lousy husband. I still hate my father. And I have my own sexual issues to deal with. So, I guess I'm just as human as the homosexual. I'm no better just b/c I claim that "their" lifestyle is wrong. One last thing you said.... the accusation of homophobia... you couldn't be more wrong. I so hate when people pull that stupid fucking card. Look at the word... what does it mean? Fear of homosexuals. I solidly assure you... I have NO fear of homosexuals, but when people like ME explain my position to people like YOU, that's all you can come up with? Please. My issue with homosexuality is not with people. It's with morals. It's with what sex IS. It's not about fear. Your argument fails because it appeals to emotion. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

I hear ya. would have been a good investment, just to turn it around and resell it later. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Damn, ya got me. I have none. wait, I mean....

I shall not loll with you this day. Such odiferous behavior offends my sensibilities. Now, if you will excuse me, I am going to go untwist my panties. you have sensibilities? I knew you wore panties, but... the sensibilities thing is simply shocking. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

May I help?

Y'know, I laugh at my display all the time. If I post a , it's because I really was laughing. Knowing Michael, though...there's no way to tell. rl Rob, I wasn't laughing out loud, I was lolling. Can't you fucking read? You fucking retard! Take off that hat! Don't you know what lolling is? You should try it! It's a shit-roaring good time! lol! Do it! NOW! LOL with me, dammit! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

un autre, Remi est un morceau de poop. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

She'll deny it, but really, who should you beleive: her, or moi? Qu'est ce c'est "Remi is a terd" en Francais? Ce ca... Remi est une tres homme agréable. edited for truth. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

The rules are irrelevant to the fact that you make a lousy argument. rl lol! and that, my friends, is why you don't fuck w/ rl. lol! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

was he speaking english? I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Since i'm the fuckwit who started this whole imbroglio by calling him Professor in the first place (Mea Culpa, Mein Furher, Professor Kallend *stomp*), I tried to go back and insert the word ASSISTANT in the original post. But oh shuckie-darn. It's been too long. I can no longer edit it. *snaps fingers in mock concern* I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

It would be just as boring as every other reality show. DING DING DING! Folks, we have a winner! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

You got it, DF, you got it. And that is what keeps us coming back, doesn't it? I mean, the combination of skydiving WITH family. If it was just the skydiving, I don't know... I'd probably still do it, but it just wouldn't be the same. Not at all. I've read a lot of posts on here that talk about how skydiving really ISN'T a family, a brotherhood, whatever... well, i think that's true to an extent, maybe in part b/c it's so big and it has such a diverse following. But I know in my gut that the friends I've made here are TRULY my friends. I feel a kinship with them that is deep and very satisfying. And I'm truly grateful for it. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

pm coming... I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Stop flirting with married women..... she's married? well sonofawhore, so am I! remi, you comin to dublin? hope so, cause i'm lookin forward to insulting you en francais. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Yeah! I'm always down for a little RATM! Killin in the name of! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...