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I just tuned into this thread to be all nostalgic about Collegiates when I went. If you aren't having as much fun at Collegiates as you would at any other boogie, you are doing something terribly wrong! Collegiates is a great time! Have fun and be safe, everyone! (Note to the women....if you want a good shot at placing, just get the Air Force guys wasted the night before the competition!) There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

What me to show you what I do know how to spell? Ick! It's early! I didn't sleep well last night! My spelling skills are a sufferin'! There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

Yes!!! It would be great if women were assertive and said, "You're an ass," but some women would rather not go back to the dz then say something. If guys want more girls at the dz, then they'll create a more female-friendly environment. Just because a woman giggles at your perverted comments does not mean she is comfortable with them. You may be scaring women off with such creepiness. There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

I do fall under that category somewhat. What I find appropriate for guys my age is not appropriate for guys my father or grandfather's age. I am creeped out by that. The only thing with this is that women are all different. We're all comfortable/not comfortable with different things. Men and women should treat each other with the "test the waters" kind of respect. Neither gender should come right out and grab each others private parts after knowing them for 2 days. If girls/guys are okay with non-significant others grabbing private parts, so be it. I won't ruin your fun, just don't try it on me, or you won't get your hand back! Guys need to stop assuming that what's okay with one woman will be okay with all. Important note:I agree with WrongWay! This is pretty much what I'm talking about....I'm okay with joking around...I'm not okay with men being creepy! There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

"Wha wha wha....there aren't enough girls in this sport," said the many men running around at various dropzones. I have a solution to all of your problems. You can get more girls at the dropzone! The way to do it is to stop being creepy!!! If you're a respectable guy who looks into a woman's eyes while talking to her, then you don't need this thread and can move on. However, if you can't remember the color of a woman's eyes 5 seconds after talking to her, this advice may be for you. Now, I'm a bit more playful, and I think flirting is fun! Winking at someone, touching someone's arm, hugging, and joking around are acceptable forms of flirting. Grabbing legs, butt, boobs, ogling, detailing what you would like to do to that person (all of this being if you are not that person's significat other) is creepy. I don't fish for compliments, but I'll gladly take them when I get them. Compliments are not detailed descriptions of body parts. Once again, that falls under the creepy category. Watch what you say! Making lude comments about other women behind their backs are often overheard. Once again, this is very creepy. I've often ignored comments and the people who make them. It can get hard to constantly ignore comments and remarks that instructors/riggers/S&TAs/vidoegraphers and other men highly regarded at the dz make. It seems like because everyone wants to feel free at a dz that some men let this be their "okay" to be gross and creepy. I think some men attach a free-love, orgy-fest stigma to dropzones in general. I guess that's why they feel okay about making lude remarks, grabbing inappropriate places, staring at a woman's chest all right in front of her significant other. I'm not a beauty queen (I'm the funny and smart girl), but I'm young. It seems that old, creepy men look and make lude remarks about anyone...even blow up dolls. It can be an uncomfortable situation when all a girl wants to do is go and make a few jumps and laugh but instead has to put up with constant gross descriptions of what some men would like to do. And, before creepy men comment here that I should deal with it (I do, actually), and that the dropzone is the one place where they can really be themselves and say what they want...well, then don't complain about the lack of women at a dz. If you're a respectable guy who is affected by the actions of creepy men scaring off nice women, then say something. I've told men, "That's disgusting," "My face is up here," etc, but they seem to laugh it off...very annoying....especially when it's someone highly regarded. So, you want more women....stop being so damn creepy! ***Note...this is why I like Hinckley. There are very few creepy men, and there are so many nice women there. If there's a creepy guy, I can just go talk to a woman. There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

I loved the muffin footage! There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

I knew my fear of commitment was just a way to keep me healthy! I wasn't just perfecting the random, drunken make-out...I was solving all the world's problems again. There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

That's the biggest misconception of dz.com. You have no "right" to post here. It's Sangiro's site. He lets you post here. Also, that's great that you understand that people need to think for themselves and question the advice giver, but if you have this understanding that people should question your advice, why do you post it? You basically said, "It's okay if I post incorrect advice because people should think for themselves and realize it's incorrect all on their own." Didn't you say that you landed by a plane? One of the more respectable and rarer things in the sport is to hear, "I f-ed up." I do hope that newbies like me who are eager for information filter what they get. There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

Bo, are you calling me thin skinned??? Oh, thank goodness that not everyone at every dz wants to be my friend; there are so many jackasses in this sport, and I'm glad that not all of them want to be my friend! As far as honesty goes, if someone is trying to give me advice about my skydiving, I see what that advice is and who it's coming from. I've f-ed up enough times in the sport, and I'll take the smack upside the head when deserved. I've also appreciated the honesty I've received from others on my skydiving and canopy control. I think the sport could use less "honesty" when it's "experienced" jumpers giving out advice. It's also funny how "honesty" comes into play when jealousy, anger and other bad feelings are involved. I will never have that view. From some of the posts in the Women's Forum, it's obvious that there are rapists at dzs. I will not consider everyone at a dz "family" for that reason. I would never choose a rapist to be a part of my family. Also, it's really hard to consider the creepy men who can't seem to find my face as family. I don't know what it is, but for some reason, many men think that being at a dropzone makes it okay to objectify women and stare at their bodies. I feel much safer and more comfortable coming into work where men have respect for me. I never feel creeped out at work. I completely agree. I have friends from when I was 2 years old still. They may not love skydiving, but they all have weirdo things that they're into. I love my whuffo friends (if I really want to party, I don't go to the dz...skydivers really don't know how to party. My whuffo friends do! ) I completely agree. I have met some really incredible people through skydiving, and I've seen some of the most selfless acts from skydivers. I love experiencing the closest thing to body flight there is...it's incredible! If I could be surrounded by all the people I really like and just play around in the sky all day, I'd be all happy shmappy. But, as much I can turn the other cheek and the stupid crap that annoys me, I'm just not good at it....it still annoys me. It annoys me to see cliques at "friendly" dzs (oh...and don't get me started on "My dz is better than yours" crap....) I understand serious competition, but I can't understand tiny, petty crap at a dz ("Well, we just turned 4 more points than you, so we're better!") It's also hard to ignore the overly loud people in the sport. People who talk loud and have nothing to say are hard to get away from. Honestly, I doubt I would've felt "burnt out" if my home dz was the one in Goshen (it's 2 hours away, though...) I have seen situations like I described above at every dz except for Goshen. It really is all about fun and safety there. No egos...no drama...no "I'm better than you"....it's just fun. Sorry for the rant...not much to do today, I guess! There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

Yeah! I bet you'll have to try really hard to get Ray as your bmi! (Good choice in a bmi, though, Paige!) Now, a question for the stupid. I'm pretty sure that the LQRS is a loop, right? Is there something else that can be used there...like a cutaway pillow or something...maybe less of a chance of it getting caught on something??? (yes, I have a whopping 6 birdman jumps and know nothing...ignore my dumb question! ) There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

That's it! I gotta go! If you come out Saturday night, I promise lots and lots of fun! There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

Hmm....not really with my high school. Most of the top ten in my class were part of the elite group. I think it's because they were smart enough to throw great parties and not get caught! I remember this girl who defined her friends by which stores they shopped at. She thought that buying a tanning bed would be cheaper than buying tanning packages would be cheaper in the long run. I saw her awhile back, and she could've been mistaken for a transvestite. I guess that's the sad thing about when someone gets too involved in their looks...when they go bad...they've lost everything. There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

My friends and I like to think about what our 10 year reunion will be like. We try to guess who's going to be doing what, and it's surprising how accurate some of our predictions were right out of high school over 5 years ago. My group of friends wasn't the "popular" group, but we weren't outcasts either. So, when many people talk about their high school days, I usually don't relate to neither the "Working on the Homecoming float was so much fun," nor the "I only had one friend in high school and that was my history teacher" stories. My guess is that many skydivers don't meet the level of conformity to be "popular," but I'm curious to know how many outcasts there are! There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

Phreezone is actually bringing me some donuts out of fear of what I'll be like without them. There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

Most would be insulted, but he is the greatest cartoon character of all time, so that's not so bad! That could be a thread in itself...best simpsons quote. There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

See!!! That's what I'm talking about!!! There's an unwritten rule that no donut can be "claimed." Donuts are not objects that one person can own. They should be treasured and adored by all. There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

I know! It's Miller Lite, though, which is why I didn't have one! Mmmmmardi Gras! Oops...I meant to attach the full pic here, WrongWay! There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

Oh! I know! He's a good guy, and he's really funny, so I know he's just joking around, and I can take a joke! I'm not actually offended! I just thought it was funny! There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

It's the holiday season, so sugar and fat are in full force at work. I have an unhealthy donut obsession, and many people here know it. My coworker Phil decided to get a donut, and he just left to go get some coffee to drink while he eats the donut. He set the donut on his desk. He looked over at me, picked up the donut, put the donut in a drawer in his desk, and he locked the drawers. Am I really so pathetic that people have to lock food so that I don't get to it???? There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

But, skydivers are family (insert eye rolling icon here.) I see what you're saying, though. My jump numbers this year decreased a significant amount from the prior year. Jumping isn't as much fun because I don't jump with really good friends anymore (my home dz closed.) People's egos get to be annoying ("We just did A, B and C," "So? We just did D, E and F!!!") I liked how anal my old dzo was. Aircraft maintenence was great. He did "restrict" some of our fun (he would fly us back down if clouds rolled in etc.) Anyways, I haven't quit skydiving, but even slowing the jumping pace down is annoying....I get tired of hearing crap about how I'm not jumping, I'm a whuffo, etc. Skydivers thinking less of me because I'm not out there every single weekend really makes me want to go and jump more (insert eye rolling icon here, too.) There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

If you are offering me a beer for my left hand, and I don't already have a beer for the left hand (my primary beer hand is the right hand), I would not turn it down (well, I'd have to make sure that it's either still closed or have the bartender hand it to me...who knows what you'd put in there if I wasn't looking!) There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

Yes, that's why I define my worth based on my accomplishments at work, experiences I've had, how I've helped others, how many beers I can drink, and how much I've saved with my Extracare Card at CVS. My thoughts....I would feel degraded if I purposely turned on a sexual offender (even if I didn't know he was one), creepy man, etc and he masterbated while thinking of me. And, Dove...haha! That's funny! I haven't had anything that extreme, but it's funny when guys at a bar will try to impress me with their money. I usually tell them that no thanks, I don't need their money. I have my own. It's so sad when all a guy can offer me is something that I already have. There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

Nobody told me that I wasn't supposed to mimick Superman! Nice video, Eric! I liked the BM clips at the end. Mmm...birdman....I wanna flock again. There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

Out of the past three years, it rained only last year. But, being Mardi Gras, the weeks in which it lies varies. I was freezing at night, and I don't think I'll tent out there again. I'm also a pansy. There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

Naked Lunch Pluto Nash Somewhere Under the Rainbow There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning