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In the defense of the Coach and DZO The DZO OKed the new rig based on my piloting skills and was quiet confident that it was a good move. I have always been a good student and listen well and have been taught about going slow and not adding two many things at one time. The day was very busy and maybe he did not go over and over about how to treat this new rig but he shouldn't have to, I had been taught it before. The Coach simply asked me to fly base with him and couple friends. As I stated before, he has jumped with me and knew my skill level. This was not a paid coach jump and although he was accompanying me, and he did go through a gear check, he did not know about the new canopy. Now I know that you can argue that the DZO should know my jump before giving me a new rig and the Coach should know my rig before giving me a new jump, and I can appreciate this opinion, but the fault lies with me. I have gained the trust of both these people as being a good student and learning my lessons well. I have also come to believe, a large part due to this forum, that my safety is my OWN responsibility. I was taught better than this!! In my defense, not that this is a good excuse The DZ has 4 rigs with mantas, for one reason or another the same one has not always been available and I have jumped 2 of them alot. The rigs are practically identical, as is the new rig in question other than the canopy. The fact that I have changed back and forth between rig 1 and 2, somehow eased the seriousness, in my head, of going to rig 3. Again, I have learned my lesson, as well as gained some verry useful experience. The main lesson was stated in the first line of my first post. In so many words "Don't add two many things at once" I know I have opened a whole new can of worms about why the DZO/Coach did not know what the Coach/DZO was up to, but please keep this on track, this is my fault, not theirs. I posted this for some input on MY actions, which I have got and appreciate it. I did not post this to turn it into a bashing of my DZ, just bash on me and have fun at it. One last point This must be my fault, if not then what kind of example am I setting for the next time I goof. Could I be the one to blame someone else if I get hurt, I don't think so edit to add: IMO no one here was out of line at all, and 'bashing on my DZ' may have been a little harsh. Just wanted to get my point across

And yes, I am within these categories. I hope to finish up and take my A exam on my next trip to the DZ. Basically all I have left is the 2 swoop and dock jumps.

as for posting on this board, bash away, I have broad shoulders and dont offend easily and am very glad to learn from what ever expereince that I can. As for exit order, we were the largest group on the plan and the groups behind us knew our plan and our planed opening alti. Now I have no desire, nor the right, to argue with you more experienced guys, but based on other threads here about exit order, horizontal seperation is where its at and you should not rely on vertical seperation.

The DZO was the guy that talked me in on all my radio jumps, we have had many in depth canopy discusions and my landings and canopy control have always been good, (wish I could say the same for my freefall skills). On top of this I dont think he looked at it as so much of a downsize, just that he wanted to get me on the Navigator which has a zp top skin. He told me to expect a much more reactive canopy but the landing should actually be easier. That is exactly what happened. I was cautious all day with my turns, much quicker than the Manta. As for the landings, they all four where as good as I could expect and the flare was much easier to time. So I guess he knew what he was doing. As for the rest of the dive, like I said, probably not the smartest move I have ever made

No, not the point I was trying to relay. I would not have been on the 4 way, MY FIRST 4 way, at the same time that I was jumping the new rig, for the FIRST time, then I could have pulled at 5 with time to practice with the new canopy.

Whoa, you guys were not joking about only adding one new thing at a time. First thing Sunday I asked the DZO about a smaller rental. He said it was way pass due and he had just not had the time to talk to me about it. So on jump # 20 off I go from a 288 Manta down to the 260 Navigator (1.04:1). Gear check goes as usual. I had some assistance turning on the Vigil, as apposed to the FXC on the manta rig. Noticed the mouth of the BOC was a little loose but it held the PC fine so I thought no big deal. I am getting geared up when a coach that had coached me on some tracking dives asked me to jump base on a four way round. Now the right answer would probably have been that I am already jumping a new rig and need to pull high, but it never crossed my mind that I may actually go low so no big deal right. Exit was very stable and the coach and another experienced jumper was docked shortly afterwards. The forth, who is working on his B card, never got to us but was right there. We are all quiet a bit bigger than he was and he was nervous about cranking up the speed to catch us and then going low. We were to break at 5000, as this was my request and my first 4 way I was gone and hauling ass by 5100. Counted 4 seconds, arched waved and reached at 4000, oh shit NO HANDLE. By the time two fingers entered the BOC opening, Silver was already running through my mind. One finger went inside the PVC tube handle. That felt freaky but I tossed it anyway, extracting the finger on the way out as the rest of my hand held the handle. My head goes back as soon as I feel line stretch to watch the opening and look for problems as I know I am nearing the hard deck, oh shit again, LINE TWIST. I quickly (probably to quick as I have been told) grabbed the rears and had the, two and half at most, line twist cleared almost instantly. My eyes left the canopy and in one motion made a check for traffic and to my altimeter. The needle had just passed 2000. The heart was pounding as I have never been in the saddle any less than 3200 but all was good now. We were the first group out and had very little surface wind. The spot was great, so great that I actually had 'some' time to practice a flare or two after the initial controllability check. I had a little trouble keeping the canopy from landing, but with a few running steps everything was great. Lessoned learned: 1) A full load, no room, first four way, etc, etc, is no reason not to have checked the handle before exit. 2) If I would have reached at 5000, I would have been in the saddle by 3000 with more time under the new canopy. 3) I jumped that rig three more times that day with no trouble, so I would have added only one new thing at a time, I could still have gotten in the, or another, four way with a familiar rig.

Never thought about it that way but we do like a short name. Nothing I have worse than having to take abreath between a dogs name and a command while training. I like gripper

cool name but dont panic about its exclusiveness, she is looking for skydiving names. So far it is down to Streamer, Spinner, or Otter

Just because you have never paid for sex does not mean that you have never had sex with a prostitute Just food for thought

I have been called Joseph, Joey, Joe, Sam (my big and little brothers were called big and little sam by my mom) but named after no one that I know of. Red is named after her hair, oh that other name people call her.... Eva after her grandmother and Jane after her mother and great grandmother Grandmothers name was Eva Cameta, great grandmother was Della Jane, I sure am glad she didn't wind up with Cameta Della

It varies. Just all depends on where the gypsy DZ is dropping that day

Well my idea was Streamer and so far no one has had an idea that she liked better, so hurry up with those brain storms or Streamer it will be.

Thanks alot. That was exactly what I was looking for. Why do some people insist on deriving formulas that require imperial unit input and produce a metric unit answer

My wife has a new puppy and wants a skydiving name for him. We have friends with "Rip Chord' and "Slider" so those are out. Any ideas?

select the correct exit and opening point. Working backwards from where you would want to land, you should open up wind and on the wind line. Q. How far up the wind line. Ft per mile per hour of wind??? Working backwards from the opening point you would want to exit up the average wind line from the point of open. Average all the aloft wind speeds and headings and assuming a 60sec freefall from 14000ft....(any corrections welcome) Q. How far up the wind line. Ft per mile per hour of wind??? I like to research my next lesson before I reach the lesson but I have not found much info on this one. It is one of the last things left on my A card and I would appreciate any info.

A wonderful day of jumping it was. Lea Anne told me later that they put up 24 tandems and I can count 10 or more AFF jumps, one of which was my wife, not to mention that every load was slammed. It was good to see Mike with a smile on his face.

Yep, but I guess it would be hard to keep it from myself if not. I currently have an employee that shows interest and I am trying to get him to do a tandem.

what I was actually wanting was a the wonderhog logo. the rws hog head. just to play with and if she likes it then I would have to get bills permission to use it

It was late last night and I could not find a good clear picture of the wonderhog to work with, does anybody have one or know where one is that I could snag. I am sure bill would not mind crude but very cool, and I am sure that in 1977 you did not have photo shop Very nice, I like that alot. I do like my warning colors better than the original, pull time within the yellow and red desicion altitude. I hope I dont out grow likeing that, but I am sure that by that time the colors want be that important anyway.

The wife collects pigs and wants a custom dial face. Which one of these do you think she will like best? Multiple answers allowed. Feel free to post other cool ones as well.

12 out of 15 = 80% the last three whats up with 10

Duh, think stupid think..........oh excuse me, talking to myself again. I got it, and would have got it earlier if I would have thought about it.

Marlin model 444s that barely fits under the seat of my pick up too many to list in between Bauer .25 auto that fits comfortably in the front pocket of my jeans.

I remember when stamps went up to 24cents and the PO had a coin machine that would give you a 24 and a 1cent stamp for every quarter you fed it. Most people would take the 24 and leave the 1 hanging there. So I thought it was my duty to make sure these did not go to waste, I can't tell you how many letters I have mailed with 24 one cent stamps on them. Looks like this may be the case again for the new 39cent stamps. Why else would they be printing 1 and 2 cent stamps for a 2cent increase. Will 39 one cent stamps fit on a standard envelope??????

Consider all the money she could stand to lose over the next several years if she dont't get this stoped. Take half that amount (or even less if she has good credit to date) and go hire joe blow thug to make sure this does not happen again. Not the right answer I know, but probably closer to justice than any thing else that is going to happen. Sorry your friend is have trouble. In my experience with legal things, you get what you pay for. Talking to the cops, da, fbi, etc is all free and you will get a free response. Talk to a laywer, this may not be the cheap way out but think of what this could cost if allowed to run its course. The lawyer is getting paid, by you, and the cops all owe him favors of some kind, so they will get right on it. May sound crazy, but it works if you get the right lawyer.