Phil1111

Imagine the course of of events with regards to trump's popularity and changing perceptions of trump. If he had handled this C-19 crisis as if it was a war that required real leadership. Had he handed this crisis off to either McMaster or Mattis. To fight this with focus, speed and resources. Then rode that outcome to the 2020 election. If he set aside self promoting narcissism to fight this crisis. Polls indicate he would win. How about that! and you're right I didn't. But trump can't change his stripes..er the color of his skin.

Thats not true.For America, imagine the course of events if trump had appointed Mattis or McMaster to lead the response, working with the CDC. Ordered to set politics aside with a $2 trillion budget.

Thanks for the more detailed response. I will try to point out a few positions in error. The so called MSM that trump supporters love to attack. Have to sell advertising. They have markets that they have to appeal to. Broadly speaking they have to appeal to the majorities of Americans. The center and to the right-left of the spectrum. There are no major newspapers in the US that outright support trump. AKA FOX. FOX is the only outlet that unabashedly will support most every lie and position he establishes. I agree that CNN will bash and attack every position trump maintains. That their journalists phrase their questions to solicit responses derogatory of trump, details at 0600. But they seldom lie. When they make a mistake in fact they usually correct it. They invite trump apologists to air their views. FOX does not. ABC, CBS, Time magazine, US news, let alone BBC, etc. To read your logic they all have journalists out to smear trump. Sorry to disappoint you. Thats not the case. IMO the hard core trump base, 28-32% of the US population will support trump regardless of what he does. Then there is another 25%, more or less that doesn't follow every twist, turn of Washington and media coverage of politics. That support him from time to time. "Put political 'stuff' aside requires an an ability to reach across the political divide for common objectives. Again and again trump has spoken about doing exactly that. Only to change his mind when his base attacks such compromise. In addition he refuses to recognize that all sides can be "winners" in a negotiation. For him he has to see victory in a negotiation.Or at least paint a loss as a victory. Instead of interjecting himself into the daily C-19 press conference. He could leave it up to Pence.To medical professionals. Thats who he appointed to lead the response. He could chair a daily conference with democrats and republicans. To craft a united response to the fiscal needs of America.The medical response that America needs. Unfortunately that type of leadership runs contrary to his objectives of November 2. Currently the election is the only thing that matters to him. It also runs contrary to his inherent need to have the spotlight solely on himself.

Here is a thought to consider. Iran signed the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), i.e. the nuclear control treaty. With Russia, China, the EU(three countries) and the USA. They complied with the agreement, trump tore it up. As far as the UN, the EU, Russia, hell the whole world is concerned. trump and the US violated the agreement then tore it up. They violated the agreement by imposing sanctions when Iran was in compliance. Then withdrew from it. Iran actually complied with the agreement for almost a year after the US withdrew. These additional sanctions arose solely from trumps actions to force Iran into a new agreement which no other country in the world supports. Israel excepted. In addition trump has attempted to blackmail the EU over this issue: "The US threatened to impose 25% tariffs on cars to push Europeans to initiate proceedings against Iran for violating the nuclear deal, the German defence minister has confirmed. “This threat exists,” said the German defence minister, Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, at a press conference in London. She was asked about an article in the Washington Post that claimed Trump had secretly warned France, Germany and the UK that the US would impose a “25% tariffs on European cars” if they did not activate the mechanism for the settlement of disputes (MRD) of the Iranian international nuclear agreement reached in Vienna in 2015." Some additional thoughts on trumps "maximum pressure": How U.S. Economic Warfare Provoked Japan’s Attack on Pearl Harbor. For those who have forgotten history in the mid-war years. Another story same subject. Oil led to Pearl Harbor

They have both asked the US government to relax sanction's and allow medical purchases of coronavirus related medical supplies. In accordance with the UN resolutions allowing Iran to purchase such supplies. This is aside from the IMF related $5 billion loan request.

As Ron put it, " In profit motivation the object is to get an edge."

I think Bill misspoke its properly called the trumpdemic what size do you take? #Trumpdemic trends nationwide as people vent at president’s coronavirus response The nation is mobilizing to fight the trumpdemic

No I was thinking, musing, about who is going to overhaul the republican party after trump is gone. Mitt Romney is the only one that came to immediate mind. The only republican left with a conscious.

trump will not offer Iran sanctions relief as coronavirus spreads rapidly in the country Instead as Iran has asked for a IMF loan to help fight the C-19 virus. The US government has chosen to reject sanctions relief. Punishing average Iranians is not new for US governments. "But we have been here before. Brutal U.S. sanctions on Iraq in the 1990s caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi children. Multiple senior U.N. humanitarian officials quit in protest of the policy, with one of them denouncing it as “genocide.” Bolton’s former colleagues over at the neoconservative pressure group United Against Nuclear Iran, as Eli Clifton revealed, have been “urging major pharmaceutical companies to ‘end their Iran business,’ focusing on companies with special licenses — most often under a broadly defined ‘humanitarian exemption’ — to conduct trade with Iran.” Yet the lie from the WH is " “The whole world should know that humanitarian assistance to Iran is wide open, it’s not sanctioned,” Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said during a Friday briefing with President Donald Trump at the White House. " So while the WH lies in press conferences, it prosecutes the drug companies for selling needed medical equipment and drugs under that exact policy. Meanwhile a coalition of 25 organizations sent a " letter signed by various organisations, including the liberal Jewish group J Street, think-tank International Crisis Group, Oxfam America and the non-profit Physicians for Social Responsibility." Urging sanctions relief. The letter was drafted by National Iranian American Council (NIAC).

Typically a judge looks at the havoc that was wrought by those shoes. Passing judgment doesn't require duplicating in whole or in part, those same crimes and felonious actions. Take trump as an example. His voters didn't have to steal from charities in order to vote for him. His apparatchiks didn't have to defraud students in order to applaud him. His apologists didn't have to become sociopathic in order to understand the damage he is doing to America.They just had to mark those ballots.

V. the current plan before the senate which is for free C-19 testing for uninsured. Then send them home to die.

Sorry Wendy, I laughed at that. AhHm Attack mode on: Obviously you heard that on FOX

Really, White House sets record for longest span with no press briefings It’s been 1128 days since Donald Trump’s last press conference. In the meantime, he has tweeted 474 times. Was it Merkel that said "speak softly and show your intellect"? or trump that said "shoot your mouth off and show your lack of intellect"?

BRILLIANT

The Leader of the Free World Gives a Speech, and She Nails It No lies, no B.S., straight talk about what the country is facing. “This is serious” “Take it seriously.” "since the Second World War—no challenge to our nation has ever demanded such a degree of common and united action.” Merkel famous for honesty, intelligence, authentic, values, She quietly assesses the different factors involved in a given situation and then decides which way she wants to go, and does it quietly and without fanfare.” If you took a private poll of the G20 leaders, the most powerful leaders in the world, and you asked, “Who do you respect the most in this group?” Merkel wins the poll. Or ask “Who would chair this group in a fair way?” They’d put the gavel in her hands. " While another countries president parrots 'Our Big War.' “our war against the Chinese virus” “I view it as a, in a sense, a wartime President,” The trump family is famous for puffery.

Instead of starting a new thread. I thought this story about trump's closest and a full equal in lying. OK he lies 1/4 as much as trump. Is handling the C-19 threat to his little fiefdom. About the shortages of equipment. Just another politician lying to cover everything up.

Whoa there. Something is very very fishy here. Tucker doesn't call for the rule of law or justice unless there is a serious underlying political angle.Its as fishy as you and AOC agreeing. I smell something here...

You all just don't understand. The profit motivation of a congressman is to get an edge.The profit motivation of a president is to get an edge. Life is about edge.

Damn...just damn. I sure hope it goes well.

Speaking of which Government response updates: Trump calls himself a 'wartime president,' promises 'total victory' Evidently "total victory" will have to be delayed for a while longer. Evidently 5.56 ammo is running out. Lab testing supplies to conduct C-19 testing are" the latest stumble in a botched effort to track the spread of coronavirus that has left the U.S. weeks behind many other developed countries." Because " government labs in the U.S. are competing for supplies with larger commercial labs and governments around the world. In conference calls this week with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, some lab staff warned that they may have to shut down testing within days due to lack of components," Canada is currently testing 10,000 a day and according to the above story the US 20,000 a day. Perhaps Americans could get a C-19 test when they go up to Canada to get cheap insulin and prescription drugs.But they will have to move fast because the border closes in under 10 hours. Too bad the federal government is not a "shipping clerk" and refuses to use the Defense Production Act, It could ....oh well... thats redumbdent.

Who would have thunk it, both of us livin on the edge.

Well I am hyper sensitive about that now. I had two interactions with the most dangerous persons in this C-19 social isolation era. The husband of a pharmacist and I just got a haircut. Since I don't want to see the barber till this is over. I hardly recognized myself when I left and promptly showered with lots of shampoo !!!

Thats ok my headache is gone now.

Sometimes I get sucked in. Thanks for wasting 20 minutes. Page 7 "All patients in Marseille center were proposed oral hydroxychloroquine sulfate 200 mg, three times per day during ten days (in this preliminary phase ,we did not enrolled children in the treatment group based in data indicating that children develop mild symptoms of COVID-19... Page 13 "The cause of failure for hydroxychloroquine treatment should be investigated by testing the isolated SARS-CoV-2 strains of the non-respondents and analyzing their genome, and by analyzing the host factors that may be associated with the metabolism of hydroxychloroquine." Time out while I go bang my head into the closest door frame ten times.

I quote you but address this to airdvr and others with the similar view of the world. On world stage, Trump loathed as much as Obama loved, Pew survey says Jan8/20 Donald Trump has dragged America's global reputation to an all-time low