Phil1111

I have to finally give trump credit. Yesterday was the first C-19 press conference from the oval office. Where he wasn't flanked shoulder to shoulder with all the other "important" speakers. It took a month to set an example but better late than never. It also looked and sounded as if he is starting to listen to experts and not the _______ that he has surrounded himself with.

Testing is designed to work with tracking down those in contact with positive C-19 outcomes. Such that they can be isolated and/or tested. IMO faulty tests were a small part of a overall clusterf*#k that led to the current situation. It was reported yesterday that China's C-19 numbers don't report positive test results where the individual is asymptomatic. Which would under report overall numbers. S. Korea used many measures, testing, complete lockdown, aggressive tracking of any contacts with positive C-19 carriers. Most important they attacked the virus very quickly. The shape of the total cases and fatality curves illustrates this. Its response should have been the model for every country.

But no Brady this year! Belichick is the power behind the Patriots. Anyway besides Ron, who else here follows or believes in this Q?

Pastor arrested for holding church services "A Florida pastor has been arrested after he allegedly held two large services on Sunday despite a safer at home order issued in the state. Tampa-area pastor Rodney Howard-Browne "intentionally and repeatedly chose to disregard the order set in place by our president, our governor, the CDC, and the Hillsborough County Emergency Policy Group," Hillsborough County Sheriff Chad Chronister said at a news conference Monday.... Attorneys for the church told the sheriff's office that they refused to cancel services, according to Chronister. The church could have opted for livestream services, but instead disobeyed the safer at home order and even provided bus transportation for parishioners, the sheriff said. Howard-Browne told congregants Sunday, "I know they’re trying to beat me up about having the church operational, but we are not a nonessential service." Just doing his best to send souls to heaven.

MAGA Trump Administration, in Biggest Environmental Rollback, to Announce Auto Pollution Rules trumps been busy with other things while he's been lying about testing, buying ventilators, etc. Stroking the base is very important. At an October 2016 campaign rally in Warren, Michigan, then-candidate Donald Trump promised that not one plant would be lost on his watch. Now, just two years later, General Motors says it plans to shutter five manufacturing plants and lay off up to 14,000 workers. The General Motors facility in Warren — where Trump made his campaign promise — is among the factories being closed.

From two years ago University Michigan: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2018/01/14/electric-vehicles-cost-less-than-half-as-much-to-drive/#7db654183f97 Now US Gov. Now from Motorweek (still no Green New Deal though) Biden Suggests Dems Push for ‘Green New Deal’ Provisions in Next Coronavirus Stimulus Bill

Thats good BC I was going to drop a dime to America's Most Wanted to keep an eye out here abouts. The extractor marks and striker marks could still give up the gig. But since you're GTG. We're safe with that.

Trump’s Lies On Coronavirus Testing To March 20th the US had conducted 133,444 C-19 tests. Canada with about1/10th the population, 220,000 tests to date(today). But that fits a narrative for trump and his defenders. It also underscores the degree and distribution of C-19 in US states. But heck now that Easter is out there is always Memorial Day. Just test less. AFAIK trump never did like tests. It also fits the conservative view that "socialist" medicine bad, "free market" good.

Striker fired aka Glock. Why melt when you can throw it away? If you fire it in your pocket how are you supposed to aim it, seen too many westerns? Oh dear. Only a week into a lockdown and people are thinking of murder already.

additions mine. No, the Russians and Saudi's are going to goad trump into more bailouts. Because after a decade of pouring Benjamin Franklins down the dry hole of the shale industry. Only a "genius" would go where investors, bondholders and banks. Have learnt never to go near again.

Pack yourselves in nice tight rows. All stand up together and let your respiration ring out in harmony. What could go wrong?

Just gota love it. Conservatives love, just love, subsidies. Be it from the government, investors, banks, whatever. Just keep trying to reinvent a loser. It like the banks that kept lending to trump. It took two decades but finally there was only one bank left Deutsche Bank. Now its only the Russian/Putin mafia and MBS.

This Tesla? Soon GM, its gas guzzling C8, C2500, etc. will be all electric. Oh he knows all that. He's just trying to deflect an answer that exposes his devotion to all the losers in his 401k. I agree with everything you said. But the bailout will be too little and too late. The last two years have devastated the balance sheets of the industry. Jul 04, 2019, Shale Industry Has Destroyed 80% Of Its Value Since 2008 Price WTI $57.66 "Recently, the former CEO of the largest shale gas producer in the United States told a roomful of conference goers what any competent financial analysis would have revealed many years ago: the shale oil and gas industry as a whole has been destroying capital since its inception. "The fact is that every time they put the drill bit to the ground, they erode the value of the billions of dollars of previous investments they have made," said Steve Schlotterbeck, former head of natural gas behemoth EQT, at a petrochemical industry conference. "It's frankly no wonder that their equity valuations continue to fall dramatically." But, the real news here is not that the shale oil and gas industry has from its beginning been destroying capital one well at a time. It's that a major industry insider freed from the constraints of his former job has admitted it. Schlotterbeck calculates that the industry as a whole has destroyed 80 percent of its value since 2008". Having read all that, sure trump will bail it out, he loves subsidies and losers as much as fellow conservatives. They just say they don't. PRICE WTI $20.17 TODAY

Oh you're so silly. You can't make it so easy! Shale drillers are staring down the barrel of the worst oil bust yet "It’s a disaster for many U.S. frackers including Chesapeake Energy Corp. and Whiting Petroleum Corp., who were already trading at distressed levels — and makes more defaults and bankruptcies all but certain. After burning through hundreds of billions of dollars in cash over the past decade, the industry has consistently disappointed investors while accumulating huge debts. It now finds itself backed into a corner, increasingly shut out of capital markets. Banks were already poised to cut credit lines after writing off as much as $1 billion in shale loans last year, more than they have in 30 years of making them." The C-19 and oil war between President trump's Two best friends. Will put an end to the dreams of US oil independence. Remember how trump was admonishing his Saudi buddy a few weeks ago. Oh come on now don't lie, you remember, it was only a week ago. Then MBS, Jared's best friend told him to F**koff. C-19 and the oil price war will in fact lay the foundations for the green revolution. As all the oil rigs, fracking equipment is fed into mini-mills and the big smelters. To build windmills and the framework for solar plants. Windmills, yeah the ones that trump said causes cancer. A lie of course. WTI, at 20 year lows. Soon it will cost more to ship than the filthy stuff is worth.All the while electrons power America. Your next truck.

Countries are always giving donations to each other. Check out Govsales and find out all the stuff thats disposed of regularly. Besides "One man made fake Honeywell N95 respirators at a makeshift factory on a farm. Pharmacies sold ineffective knockoffs of a Chinese version of Clorox. In one Chinese province, authorities seized more than seven million masks that were substandard, mislabeled or counterfeited. China’s vast manufacturing machine has moved into overdrive to supply the country and the world with masks, testing kits, respirators and other gear to fight the global coronavirus pandemic." Soon it will all be coming back to the US

I'm glad someone could follow, I couldn't. For a moment I imagined the post for Ron about the shrooms and cow paddies should have been here.

I wonder if Mattis, Tillerson, et al are also documenting this time in American history. A decade from now there will be at least a dozen classic books. On how missteps, a cabinet of yes men and enablers. Led America to the brink of disaster and the years of sacrifice that it took to undo the damages.

Why let the facts of economics get in the way of "beliefs and gut instinct". The facts are that the so called "welfare states" pay for the poorer red states and rust belt areas where high paying jobs are long gone.If you read the article it even makes reference to Russian standards of living.

I only get FOX on Sundays when other channels put their shows on channels that don't carry other programming. I was speculating that Sunday shows match "journalist/hosts" with a broader mandate/appeal than the usual target audience. Hosts like Hannity and others like him. I can only guess because I've never watched or listened to. But from reports I speculate they have targeted, substantial audiences that warrant their positions.

One concept that has really not been discussed by national leaders. Is what the national objective is going to be. Chancellor Merkel who by a recent poll showed " 89% of Germans thought the government was handling it well." Has talked about the requirement of 70% of the population requiring antibody immunity before the general population would be somewhat safe.Has brushed upon core issues. She has restricted groups to two people. Other governments have been feeding the narrative that its all about a two week quarantine then the curve will be flat enough to deal with everything. Others seem to pin their hopes on a vaccine 11/2 years away. That may never materialize. Its as if what's known to the inner circles of epidemiologists, economists and experts advising political leaders. Have delivered the doomsday message that the public can't handle. That shouldn't be disclosed. China, S.Korea have contained the virus to date with two month shutdowns and massive testing. Testing at 700 per 100,000 combined with active tracking of sources for infection. Long term protections for the elderly, groups especially susceptible to the virus need implementation. Obviously at some point entire hospitals can be staffed by doctors, nurses and staff. That have fully recovered from C-19. Given robust incentives and orders the masks, ventilators, etc. will be available to service a continuous low flow of infectious new patients into the medical system. Are governments prepared to subsidize incomes for pack a day smokers, 75 lbs overweight, aged 50, for 11/2-2 years? Or should they be thrown under the bus to pay for the expense of isolation for someone else equally at risk? Should recovered workers keep outsized wages because they are working while others can't? What about companies that fail due to bailout funds running out? Should they get another? As the current offerings of 2-4 months are clearly not going to last and be enough? Should a speedy opening up of the public to business, mobility and social interactions. Allow the quickest buildup of "herd immunity" possible. So the economy can speed ahead, over the bodies of those that might die anyway? Can the public handle the truth? Can corporations and the public handle the debts they've accumulated over the last 20 years? Should 20-30% more debt/gdp be thrown at C-19 and let children pay for an easy exit to this pandemic?

Why have you been holding back, tell us what you really think. BTW "When Justin wore Blackface" would have been 2001.

Fairly accurate. But he claims he's a genius rite or rong.

So trump was answering questions about how Americans can go back to work in two weeks. When cases of C-19 are still prevalent. His response was "wash your hands more, perhaps five times a day". FOX may be changing their tune. Chris Wallace was asking tough "real journalist" questions on his Sunday show today.

Well possibly. But I think there just has to be some sort of over-riding religious factor. AFAIK that is some sort of accredited university. I'd like to hear from someone who is familiar with that student body. Divine protections? Blind obedience to college and leaders? "Stupid" is just too easy. Or perhaps the the reporting is exaggerated?