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Y'know, doing God-type stuff. Moving Everest to Holland. Turning the White House into cheese. Showing me the horsehead nebula from the inside. Miracle-y things. Although of course all that might turn out to just super bitchin' alien technology, so maybe proof is the wrong word, but if a guy turned up who could do that and claimed he was god, I'd at least hearcall him out. Okay, so we pretty much agree (except for that one little correction ) Oh, and if there turns out to be a god, I'll bet it's a woman. There's been exactly 2 in my lifetime that I swear moved the Sierra Nevada. G. Jones "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around, the more I think it might not be a bad idea."

You do realize that was all a huge misunderstanding; especially the whole smallpox/blanket issue....Blown waaaay out of proportion. They were actually meant for the french. You guys must've raided a wagon train or something...it's the only reasonable explanation for how that happened. Savages. Amtrak had contracted to have tracks laid as early as 1830, but defaulted, resulting in the "Trail of Tears." So you see, that was actually beyond the white aristocratic government's control that your people had to walk so far, and at roughly 26% attrition rate during the forced (by Amtrak...remember?) march, it wasn't really THAT bad, now was it? Reservations...lets just take a quick look at what happened there. I know the government "gave" you guys the land in exchange for ohhh, say, the whole damned continent, but it was a wasteland! How the hell was the federal government to know that god would want us to have that too (Manifest destiny anyone?)??? I mean, it's not like the government could just eject white squatters and malcontents from "reservation" land. That would really look unfair. So you see, it's really your own damn fault for not just moving to mexico. After all, we let them keep some of their land (we better hope they never figure out the whole "manifest destiny" thing though). Come to think of it, even if they did...we'd just take them to one of our famous Kangaroo courts, where if the gov't is losing, they just change the rules. Sorry for the rant, and I sure hope you caught the sarcasm. You guys (ALL the tribes) got royally fucked the first night and it hasn't stopped since. I don't look for it to happen, but a little LOT of just equity from the US and even some from england would go a fair ways toward righting one of the greatest wrongs in the history of "civilized" man. It can be argued any number of ways, with some even today suggesting that the treatment of the American Indian Tribes was ultimately "made right", and therefore just and equitable. I call bullshit! Sorry for the rant, but this is one issue I am extremely passionate about, and you may as well spark a keg of powder as to bring up this topic when I can reply to it. G. Jones "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around, the more I think it might not be a bad idea."

Wonder if anyone is considering paying their taxes directly and cutting out the middle man? G. Jones "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around, the more I think it might not be a bad idea."

And you people are still all fucked up! Anyone who's ever spent any time in California can tell you that the earth moves, and does so quite regularly. The universe however, is quite another story. The universe actually revolves around my ex wife...she will gladly point that out to you post-haste. Oh..., and the world is flat. Definitely flat. If I ever went any farther than Colorado on a hunting trip I was quite sure (per the ex) that I would fall off the edge of the world and be eaten by monsters. Imagine my shock when I finally made a trip to the farm and found out it was true! Things sure had changed since my childhood in Florida. I'm much better since the divorce. G. Jones "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around, the more I think it might not be a bad idea."

How the hell would you "prove" divine intervention??? No, really. I'm curious. I'm also agnostic, but if you could "prove" divine intervention, it just may be the answer to a question I've had for nearly 40 years. BTW, a Jesus face on Waffle House toast ain't gonna get it either. G. Jones "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around, the more I think it might not be a bad idea."

Maybe you meant "they are dicks". "The boy apparently broke from his grandmother's grip and ran into the path of the truck." . . . "Some relatives of the victim said the driver was going faster than the posted speed limit." Blame anybody and everybody but the cause. Trucks, drivers, bumpers, truck owner, brake pad manufacturer, asphalt company, truck driver's dog..... As if... . It's plain to see that it's the county's fault for building a road where children play in the first place. Sue the county (not that they won't anyway; deep pockets and all that). G. Jones "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around, the more I think it might not be a bad idea."

One of the many reasons that you are my best friend.

You missed your calling Bill; you should've been a liberal arts major. If speculation as to where I've been and what I've seen is the basis of you argument, then you fail miserably. As I said in my previous post, you have no knowledge of where I've been, what I've seen and experienced in my lifetime, nor the sacrifices of my family. Make no mistake, there is no "political posturing" on my part. Our entire system sucks. I don't give a damn if you're Republican, Democrat, Independent, Green Party, Libertarian, Left wing, right wing, conservative or Liberal...it matters not. The above mentioned parties/groups are ALL part of the problem. Pretending there is a solution is political posturing. Then perhaps you wouldn't mind relocating your residence to and conducting your business in St Louis, Atlanta, Birmingham, Detroit, Baltimore, or maybe KC. After all, by your own figures, you would stand only one hundreth of one percent chance of experiencing uncontrolled violence there. Oh shit, I forgot. You're white...that will change things just a bit. As for not being arrested for no good reason, or starving to death; you might want to adjust those figures slightly too, based on the color of your skin. I spend time occasionally at my sister's Condo in La Jolla, and you're right. I don't worry about much while I'm there. Spending time in any of the places I mentioned above though; I'm not quite so easy going and relaxed. Maybe you could spend some time there (as in living there) and report on the conditions. Maybe my perception as a visitor is skewed. Maybe the UCR is wrong, and just maybe, if frogs had wings, they wouldn't bump their ass everytime they jumped. Unlike you I can't read minds, but I suspect that either you own stock in Preparation H, or you stay awfully sore from pulling things like this outta your ass. 1st, I don't give two shits about Obama's political orientation. He's a politician; that's all I need to know about him. 2nd, (suspecting again, because I still can't read minds) I suspect those to whom the political orientation of the current President does mean something might just have a disagreememt with you there. Of course you'd have to ask them...or read their minds for yourself. 3rd Get back to me when you have more than supposition, hyperbole, and innuendo. THE FOLLOWING IS MEANT LITERALLY, AND WITH NO SLIGHT INTENDED BILL; IT'S SOMETHING I JUST CAN'T GET A HANDLE ON. You used to make reasoned and rational arguments here Bill. You've either knowingly joined the unreasoned and unthinking who are here simply to stir the pot, or you've somehow been drawn into it. Back then, I honestly respected your position and the points you made, even though I may not have agreed. I can't honestly say that and mean it anymore. That, to me is a sad thing. G. Jones "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around, the more I think it might not be a bad idea."

Normiss: We've never met. We've never talked. We've never even exchanged pleasantries via e-mail or IM, but I've enjoyed your posts from the first time I recall reading one. You appear to be well educated, well read, and well spoken. You have a propensity for subtle, yet occasionally ironic and biting humor and commentary. You have a pretty woman, who (most of the time) appears to be reasonable and sensible....well grounded so to speak. Despite the fact that she's a moderator, I don't hold that against her. I really do like Andrea. HOWEVER...She was locked out of the house. This effectively gave you the upper hand in all matters domestically related. She even locked HERSELF out of the house, and admitted it on a public forum. As much as it pains me, and as much as I would desire a different outcome; due to your above referenced comments (Henceforth and forevermore known as "Kissing-up", or to be legal and specific; the act of servility in the absence of duress), I must demand the return of your Man Card™. In accordance with our charter and rules of manly procedure, as soon as your Man Card™ is received and destroyed, you may log onto the general website (please note: Your password is no longer valid, so you may hereafter access only that portion of the website known as "Public.") and select the man-purse of your choice as a consolation gift. It will be shipped free of charge per our policy for expelled members. Be sure to have your ball and chain significant other select the color and texture, as unless you have taken the next step in you egress from manhood, you will currently lack the skills to identify the proper qualities to match your wardrobe. So says one; so say all, this 14th day of July, 2011. PS- Your secret decoder ring with covert GHB compartment has been deactivated as of this notice. G. Jones "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around, the more I think it might not be a bad idea."

Miss you too sweetie. Finally called the other night, but it wound up being later than I thought it'd be, and since you weren't feeling well I figured you were asleep. Don't get so down about your age; 32's not as bad as most make it out to be.

G. Jones "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around, the more I think it might not be a bad idea."

The fact is you have absolutely no idea where I have been Bill. That's the same type of assumptions that helped to create the mess we're in. The situation and conditions which you set forth are just that; ones which you set forth. There seems to be a lot of cheering globally about the "Arab Spring", but revolution couldn't possibly be good for the US, is that it? We're above that, our current situation is only transient and when it's over it'll be thanks to the Messiah. If you think that voting is going to fix this steaming shitpile we're in as a nation, pass the pipe over here man...I want a hit of what you're having. BTW, the closest you came to anything of truth or substance was the reference to "The tyranny under which we live", and "The corrupt rulers". I expected more from you Bill. Preconception is unbecoming and lends nothing to your poor attempt at an argument. If you're going to pretend to read minds, you could always get a job at the circus...or maybe miss Cleo is hiring. G. Jones "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around, the more I think it might not be a bad idea."

I can only speculate that you're referring to the notorious "Obama Donkey Punch" that the public is being distracted with. He's not even subtle enough to just bite us on the collective ear while he rams it home. G. Jones "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around, the more I think it might not be a bad idea."

Bingo! BUT...there's too much partisan bullshit to be spread for EITHER side to actually do their job. And too much special interest money to change it. If you can't repair an engine, you tear it down completely and rebuild it from the ground up. Our engine is beyond repair, and has been for years. G. Jones "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around, the more I think it might not be a bad idea."

I'm for it. If neither the left nor the right can dig their heads out of their collective asses then maybe a good old fashioned civil war will get their attention. More specifically, I think we need a carbon fucking copy of the French Revolution right here at home. For a shrewd capitalist there could be a fortune to be made in Guillotines. G. Jones "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around, the more I think it might not be a bad idea."

The part in red is really quite ironic. The way I see it this guy is looking at it ass backwards. From where I sit, regardless of whether the debt ceiling is raised or not (and I vote "or Not"), if the afformentioned checks fail to go out (in an obvious and pathetic attempt at coercion), then I can not guarantee any future "taxes" levied against my income will "go in." And yes, I am in a position to do that. As for not paying the Vets; that's one crowd I wouldn't piss off on purpose. G. Jones "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around, the more I think it might not be a bad idea."

And probably pass laws for English only as the Official Language. That shit'd never fly. Nobody there speaks english. G. Jones "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around, the more I think it might not be a bad idea."

I'm with popsjumper on this one. Not surprising at all. I was born and raised in North central Florida, and traveled the South East coast (usually as far as Virginia) pretty frequently, and less often, but still with fair regularity, the Gulf coast to at least Galveston. The poverty on the Gulf coast as a whole was staggering. Not that it was much better on the SE coast. Truly sad. G. Jones "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around, the more I think it might not be a bad idea."

Andy, you are an inspiration. Don't know your exact age, but by the numbers I know I'm not at all far behind you. I think we may have met once at the Farm, around, ooooooo, last part of '07 or so. If it was you, you'd likely remember me as the guy with the beard down to my belt buckle. Oh, and if I'm falling anywhere on my belly, it's from drinking too much! G. Jones "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around, the more I think it might not be a bad idea."

Thanks Rick. Hell, I'd settle for more toward the middle. Being 20-30 just sucks...!!! From what I can remember of it! G. Jones "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around, the more I think it might not be a bad idea."

If you can't remember how old you are, just vote "over 65." That's the default for Geriatrics/Alzheimer's PT's. G. Jones "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around, the more I think it might not be a bad idea."

Nope! Your response was anticipated in the poll layout. I think it was actually Wildcard451 who first mentioned it. There is madness to my method I tell you...MADNESS!!! Oh...sorry. Forgot to take the green pill this morning. G. Jones "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around, the more I think it might not be a bad idea."

Thank you Mike. That's very kind of you. Thanks for being a good sport and humoring me!

RVN in the 60's and 70's for the win Alex. G. Jones "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around, the more I think it might not be a bad idea."

520 views; 149 votes...hurriedly scribbles notes...MmmmHmmm.... Yes, yes. I think I see a pattern. G. Jones "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around, the more I think it might not be a bad idea."