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Longmont City Council will take up skydiving noise
Jumpdude replied to stratostar's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
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Longmont City Council will take up skydiving noise
Jumpdude replied to stratostar's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
Here's the latest email that Kimmie sent out. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ At the Crossroads For five long years we have been working hard for something so reasonable, so simple - a balance between aviation interests and our rights to live in peace and quiet. And for five long years we have faced one roadblock after another. I am so grateful to all of you who have written editorials, attended city council meetings, donated your time and money, and joined our outreach efforts at the Longmont farmers market. But it does seem we are at a crossroads, and need to decide on our future course. The appeal briefs are all filed, and the lawsuit will be settled in a few short months. But even a victory in court will not likely result in the injunctive relief that we sought. By now, we know that Longmont city council will continue to ignore us, and the county commissioners have no real jurisdiction over the airport. So, where do we go from here? We need to hear your thoughts. Do Longmont citizens favor local control over polluting industries? I believe they do. Would Longmont citizens approve a ballot initiative to regain local control over airport operations? Would our volunteers support this effort next year? What are you willing to do to move forward? I hope you can join us for a brief meeting this Saturday at the Longmont farmers market. Quiet Skies Meeting Please join us for an informal meeting this Saturday morning at the Longmont farmers market from 8 to 9 am. You will have a voice in our future efforts. If you can't attend, please let me know your level of involvement via email at CitizensForQuietSkies@yahoo.com News Pilot walks away from small plane crash in Longmont Glad no one was injured, and I'll point out that the pilot Dave Shenk testified on our behalf at the trial. He has been a vocal critic of MHS for many years. Unfortunately, it is also worth noting that if the plane had been taking off to the east that it would likely have landed in a neighborhood. This is a legitimate concern for those living near the airport. NTSB: Skydiver was seriously injured in Longmont after striking plane during jump For those who attended the trial, you may recall that the Mile-Hi witnesses, including the chief pilot, testified under oath that they routinely back off the props after reaching a safe altitude, typically 1,000 AGL. They claimed to do this for noise abatement. Many Quiet Skies witnesses testified that the jump planes climb at full power throughout the flight, which results in excessive noise. Note this statement from the NTSB report: "At 12.2 nautical miles (nm) from the intended GPS waypoint, the pilot maintained a full power setting and continued the climb for 17,500 ft msl." And regarding our friends in New York who are fighting the helicopter sightseeing flights, more bad news ... City extends tour-helicopter concession for another 5 years And how can this possibly happen, you ask? It is called corruption. Lobbysists use loopholes in donating to Mayor DeBlasio's campaign So what can we ordinary citizens do, when it becomes so clear that we are losing our democracy and that elected leaders cannot be trusted to act in our best interests? We must consider the very real possibility of a ballot initiative next year to regain local control of the airport. This effort would be accomplished by forcing the city to forego all future grant monies used for airport capital improvements, which would essentially cancel the airport expansion altogether. The airport users would have to pay their fair share to maintain the airport, with no more subsidies out of yours and my pockets. Editorials Kimberly Gibbs: TC - Skies have been quieter this year, but there is more work to be done Richard Auletta: Camera - $5 million for quiet trains, $0 for quiet skies The Appeal As of June 10th, all briefs have been filed. We are still awaiting the decision about our request to present oral arguments. FAA Reauthorization Congress approved another short term FAA Reauthorization bill that will expire in the fall of 2017. The bill did not contain any provisions to address noise. Our supporters worked with Congressman Polis' staff to draft an amendment to include noise provisions, and unfortunately no amendments were considered. So, this effort is tabled until next September. Meng criticizes passage of FAA Reauthorization for not including provisions to combat airplane noise I Heart Quiet Skies Stickers We have I Heart Quiet Skies small 3x3 stickers available to our supporters both near and far. To get your sticker, please join us this Saturday morning at the Longmont farmers market or send your name and address to CitizensForQuietSkies@yahoo.com. Many thanks, Kimberly Gibbs Chairman and Founder, Citizens For Quiet Skies Boulder County, Colorado -
Longmont City Council will take up skydiving noise
Jumpdude replied to stratostar's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
Has anyone considered a lawsuit against Mr Kimmie for shirking his marital duties and creating a public nuisance???... I mean seriously... Kimmie is screaming for some attention there Mr Kimmie. FFS man... do your job Should include some BDSM with a ball gag in her mouth, just saying. Where's the like button? -
Longmont City Council will take up skydiving noise
Jumpdude replied to stratostar's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
This is a copy of the email Queen retard Kimmie sent out Sunday! ***The second email below the divider line is the previous email she sent out Saturday. The attachment is a screenshot of my inbox so y'all can see the timestamps of those emails. So it appears that she's going to try to close the airport now! LMAO!!!! Good Neighbor Mile-Hi Skydiving Yes, GOOD NEIGHBOR Mile-Hi Skydiving is conducting night jumps yet again this evening. It's 10:00 and they just rounded the corner headed for the airport. Their conduct this weekend is unacceptable. Please take a moment to email city council and staff. Tell them to rein in Mile-Hi Skydiving, and if you are a city of Longmont resident please be sure to include your address in your email. Longmont city official emails: Harold Dominguez ; Polly Christensen ; Gabe Santos ; Dennis Coombs ; Bonnie Finley ; Brian Bagley ; Jeff Moore ; Joan Peck ; David Slayter ; Many thanks, Kimberly Gibbs Chairman and Founder, Citizens For Quiet Skies Boulder County, Colorado _______________________________________________________________________________________________________ ***Email from Saturday*** It is 10:30 pm and Mile-Hi Skydiving is STILL Operating So much for Mile-Hi Skydiving being a "good neighbor." After a full day of listening to the obnoxious purple Twin Otter, we are now being further subjected to a nighttime full of more skydiving noise. It is 10:30 pm and they are still going. Any bets on whether they go until midnight again? This is unacceptable. Tell City Council that this is ENOUGH. If they can't fine a way to rein in Mile-Hi Skydiving then the airport must be closed. Longmont city official emails: Harold Dominguez ; Polly Christensen ; Gabe Santos ; Dennis Coombs ; Bonnie Finley ; Brian Bagley ; Jeff Moore ; Joan Peck ; David Slayter ; Many thanks, Kimberly Gibbs -
Longmont City Council will take up skydiving noise
Jumpdude replied to stratostar's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
Hmmm, makes me want to move to Boulder Co, and bring my RACE CARS, and enjoy my other life as not only a skydiver, but a racer, and enjoy the many days and/or nights when we run the engines to be sure the Yes, I sometimes get the urge to trade my 650 Kawasaki for a HD with drag pipes and take a tour through Gunbarrel. DO IT!!!!!!! -
Longmont City Council will take up skydiving noise
Jumpdude replied to stratostar's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
Hmmm, makes me want to move to Boulder Co, and bring my RACE CARS, and enjoy my other life as not only a skydiver, but a racer, and enjoy the many days and/or nights when we run the engines to be sure the -
Longmont City Council will take up skydiving noise
Jumpdude replied to stratostar's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
That's possible, it showed up on her FB page!! I guess if it's on Facebook, it must be real!! LMAO!!! NOT! https://www.facebook.com/Citizens-For-Quiet-Skies-213188222077598/ -
Longmont City Council will take up skydiving noise
Jumpdude replied to stratostar's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
It's the online PDF version of a newspaper called the "Left Hand Valley Courier" Try this one, I put it in my hosting. It could have been a problem with their URL or server. http://nashvilleskydiving.org/LHVC_2016-03-23.pdf -
Longmont City Council will take up skydiving noise
Jumpdude replied to stratostar's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
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Longmont City Council will take up skydiving noise
Jumpdude replied to stratostar's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
I think it was the map that I attached. That's all that was on the email. -
Longmont City Council will take up skydiving noise
Jumpdude replied to stratostar's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
Here's her email that was titled "Updates on the Appeal", and it was accompanied with the attached map. __________________________________________________________________________________________ I have always held a deep respect and appreciation for the American judicial system – even with all its imperfections. Growing up, conversations about law and the legal system were part of our dinnertime conversation, and at one time I even considered studying law. So, you can imagine how surprised I was to sit through a week-long trial in May, listening to the defendant witnesses tell outrageous lies, watching their planes avoid the judge during the site visit and then to realize that the judge had no apparent interest in discerning fact from fiction. I knew from the beginning that winning the lawsuit against Mile-Hi Skydiving would be difficult. But never in my wildest dreams did I foresee getting broadsided with outrageous, punitive monetary awards by Judge Judith LaBuda. Without a doubt, 2015 was one of the most challenging and difficult years of my life, and all of the plaintiffs shared in this unexpected burden. The simple fact is that we should not have to work so hard to achieve sensible, reasonable regulations to protect our community from environmental degradation. And now, after years of experience, I can see clearly that the well-being and quality of life for ordinary citizens is being jeopardized by moneyed interests on several fronts. We can’t quit now – our efforts are worthwhile, we are right, and I believe we will start to see positive results in 2016. I want to thank all of the committed volunteers who held the torch and kept going when I was reeling. Your kind words and encouragement were very much appreciated. *********************************************************** THE LAWSUIT AND APPEAL STATUS *********************************************************** The appeal is moving forward and we will meet with the legal team next week to review status. The legal team is conducting research and preparing the appeal brief, which is due in February. We expect a final decision from the appeal court by late summer. I will keep you posted when oral arguments are scheduled in front of the appellate court. In late November, the plaintiffs paid off all of the judgments and incidentals, which totaled about $130,000 (see attached satisfaction of judgments). We decided to pay off the judgments because Mile-Hi Skydiving had placed real estate liens on our properties, even though we had an appeal bond, which barred collection efforts. When we asked the judge to force Mile-Hi to remove the liens, she refused. Unbelievable. *********************************************************** FUNDING FOR THE APPEAL *********************************************************** During the holidays we are all bombarded with mail and pleas for funding of many worthwhile organizations. This year, I hope you can help us move forward with the appeal by making a generous donation to the legal fund. We made the initial payment to the legal team a few months ago, and we must deliver the final $10,000 payment on February 1, 2016. After paying off the hefty judgments, the plaintiffs must rely on Quiet Skies supporters in Boulder County to finance the appeal – it is essential to moving forward. If you would like to donate, please send a check by January 15th. Please make your check payable to Citizens For Quiet Skies: 7468 Mt. Sherman Road Longmont, CO 80503 Citizens For Quiet Skies is a Colorado non-profit organization. However, it is not tax-exempt. ******************************************************************* THE FAA – UPDATE ON RECKLESS PILOT ACTIVITY REPORTED TO THE FAA ******************************************************************* Back on Oct. 24th I wrote about a joy-riding pilot flying around our neighborhood for about an hour, up and down and around and around. I reported the incident to the FAA Denver FSDO. I provided the webtrak image below along with the exact take-off and landing times at JeffCo to investigator Lang. He assured me that they would be able to identify the aircraft and follow-up with the pilot. He emphasized that if I had any problems with the noise from the activity, that I would need to report that to the local government – because they (Denver FSDO) don’t handle noise complaints. Yesterday I received the letter below regarding the “investigation.” Just one more example of our tax dollars hard at work protecting aviation interests. -
Longmont City Council will take up skydiving noise
Jumpdude replied to stratostar's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
So, I guess now, Kimmy thinks she can attack "Off site landings" and it seems she thinks she can tell us how to operate! Here's the email she sent out this evening! ________________________________________________________________________________________ Hello everyone, I wanted to share the communication below regarding the lack of reporting of skydiving off-site landings. The Longmont Municipal Code clearly states that all off-site landings are to be reported to the airport manager. However, when I requested a summary for 2015, city staff informed me that there is no such report. I want to urge our Boulder County supporters to contact city council and ask them to require accurate reporting of off-site landings. Stay tuned, I'll send a final update of 2015 tomorrow and then we'll take a well-deserved break for the holidays to enjoy friends and family. All the best, -Kim ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Kimberly Gibbs To: Harold Dominguez ; Polly Christensen ; Gabe Santos ; Dennis Coombs ; Bonnie Finley ; Brian Bagley ; Jeff Moore ; David Slayter Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 3:26 PM Subject: Mile-Hi Skydiving - no documentation of off-site landings Good afternoon Longmont city council and staff, I wanted to bring to your attention some concerns regarding the reporting and documentation of Mile-Hi Skydiving unauthorized, off-site landings. Upon requesting a summary of 2015 off-site landings, I was informed by city staff (below) that "we have no records pursuant to this request as the City has not kept a log of such calls in the past." The lack of reporting is concerning for several reasons. First, the Longmont Municipal Code 13.39.140.(B).2 states very clearly that all off-site landings will be reported to the airport manager. The wording of this section implies that some type of report or summary would in fact be maintained by the airport manager and available for review. Secondly, contrary to the assertion that no log of such calls has been kept in the past, the attached documents (emails from Tim Barth summarizing off-site landings) show that there was at one time a process for reporting the off site landings, although I'm confident that the records are incomplete. It appears that, at some point, the reporting stopped. And finally, this is not a trivial issue to be overlooked. Nor is the lack of accurate information and transparency a simple oversight - it is by design. Without accurate information, you cannot analyze the data and make informed decisions regarding the impact of skydiving operations. In fact, there are numerous off-site landings each year, including one just recently, on about November 19th when a skydiver landed on open space off of St. Vrain Road and 65th Street - quite some distance from the drop zone. I received numerous reports like this throughout the summer. Mile-Hi commonly operates during periods of high winds, which further increases the risk of off-site landings. And student jumpers with no experience are more likely to land off-site than more experienced jumpers. Why are frequent off-site landings an issue of concern? Off-site landings greatly increase the risk of injury to both the jumper and others. They pose a further nuisance to the community, and they result in trespassing and potential property damage. With the increased construction density surrounding the airport, this will become a growing problem. If council were provided with an accurate report of these incidents, I'm sure you would be shocked at the high number and would consider mandatory operating adjustments, such as disallowing flights during high winds and requiring all jumpers to have a minimum of a USPA C license. These restrictions are well within your authority as the airport proprietor (per FAA Advisory Circular 150/5190-7) Why is Mile-Hi Skydiving not currently required to follow the plain language and reasonable requirement specified in the Longmont Municipal Code? I urge you to reinstate this requirement and make full compliance a mandatory requirement of their operating agreement. Thank you for your consideration. -Kim 13.39.140. - Minimum skydive operating requirements. Municode Library ×Close MunicodeNEXT Terms of Use View on www.municode.com Preview by Yahoo ... B. Unauthorized off site skydiver landings. ... 2. Each skydive operator shall within 24 hours after learning of it, report each of its unauthorized off site landings, including those of its skydive jumpers, to the airport manager. -Kim kimberly_gibbs@yahoo.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kimberlygibbs ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Sara Rusher To: Kimberly Gibbs Cc: David Slayter ; Harold Dominguez Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 2:59 PM Subject: RE: requesting 2015 report on off-site landings Good Afternoon Kim, I too hope you’re well and enjoying the holidays! Unfortunately, we have no records pursuant to this request as the City has not kept a log of such calls in the past. As always, please let me know if there is anything further you need, and have a wonderful afternoon, Sara Rusher City Clerk’s Office 303-651-8648 From: Kimberly Gibbs [mailto:kimberly_gibbs@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 11:33 AM To: Sara Rusher Cc: David Slayter; Harold Dominguez Subject: requesting 2015 report on off-site landings Hi Sara, I hope you're doing well and enjoying the holidays. I would like to request a summary of 2015 unauthorized off site skydive landings, per the reporting requirements specified below in section 13.39.140.B(2) below. Can you help me with this request? 13.39.140. Minimum skydive operating requirements.permanent link to this piece of content A. Skydive operating procedures. 1. All skydive operations will comply with applicable State and federal statutes, regulations, advisory circulars and United States Parachute Association (or other nationally recognized skydiving organization's) Basic Safety Requirements (BSR's) and Parachute Licensing Procedures. 2. The skydive aircraft will announce on Vance Brand Airport UNICOM frequency, as frequency congestion allows, skydivers jumping two minutes before the jump and when jumpers exit the aircraft. 3. All skydive operators must provide the airport manager with a copy of their Standard Operating Procedures (SOP'S) which set forth the procedures they will utilize to minimize and prevent unauthorized landings. These SOP's will be used by the city manager or designee, including the airport manager, to evaluate unauthorized landings to determine if there has been a violation of these Regulations. B. Unauthorized off site skydiver landings. 1. Skydive operators and skydive jumpers shall take every reasonable measure to prevent and refrain from unauthorized landings. It is an affirmative defense to a charge of violating this subsection that the unauthorized landing resulted from an emergency that neither the skydive operator nor the skydive jumper could avoid. 2. Each skydive operator shall within 24 hours after learning of it, report each of its unauthorized off site landings, including those of its skydive jumpers, to the airport manager. -Kim kimberly_gibbs@yahoo.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kimberlygibbs -
Longmont City Council will take up skydiving noise
Jumpdude replied to stratostar's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
This was the latest email from the Kimmie Propaganda dept! __________________________________________________________________________________________ Friends, We met with Congressman Polis this week and had a very productive dialogue. We are pleased to report that he expressed enthusiastic support for our efforts, and he offered a commitment to introducing viable solutions as part of the FAA Reauthorization. Congressman Polis commented specifically on the large number of Boulder County residents who contacted him in support of Quiet Skies' efforts to adopt reasonable regulations to address our local noise problem. Many thanks to everyone who contacted Congressman Polis! We will keep you posted as the FAA Reauthorization moves forward -
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I just hope that everyone votes for candidates who DO NOT have ANY association with Cary Quattrocchi and any of his fake websites and business names! (Rushcube, Spot Reservation, Sportations etc) We need to get the ones out who have been associated with him and his scams!! Now back to your regularly scheduled program already in progress! Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org
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Longmont City Council will take up skydiving noise
Jumpdude replied to stratostar's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
Here's another email that came this afternoon, and it appears that she thinks she's winning!!! Hey guys at MHS, jump your asses off, show her how lost her cause really is!!! LMAO!!!! _____________________________________________________________________________________________ Hello friends, I hope you enjoyed yet another beautiful, quiet and peaceful evening in Boulder County. There were no skydiving operations (that I'm aware of) yesterday or today. The lack of activity on Tuesday and Wednesday has become common over the past several weeks. We also notice that on weekdays, the operations typically end by 5:30. These recent changes are unprecedented. In the past, operations would go up until dark nearly every day of the week. Why have they changed? Is it due to negotiations with the city for the South Parcel lease? Are the changes mandatory? We simply don't know. City officials are not offering any information about the lease negotiations. We can be certain that without a binding and mandatory agreement, any recent improvements will be short lived. Also, Mile-Hi continues to operate 2 twin otters and a king air on weekends. An essential element of our efforts is that the twin otters must be removed from service. They are inappropriate aircraft for frequent use over residential areas. So, let's be grateful for this lovely evening, and continue to press on. ***************************************** GUEST OPINION AND LETTERS TO THE EDITOR ***************************************** Many thanks to those who have already signed the petition. There are currently 355 signatures, and about half of those are from Boulder County residents. We'll need a lot more to influence congress, so please sign if you haven't already and share it with friends and neighbors. We have received confirmation that another Colorado member of congress is joining the Quiet Skies Congressional Caucus - this is great news and a direct result of your outreach efforts. Members of Congress: Urge Congress to adopt regulations to REDUCE AIRPLANE NOISE (Link; https://www.change.org/p/members-of-congress-urge-congress-to-adopt-regulations-to-reduce-airplane-noise ) Members of Congress: Urge Congress to adopt regulations ... Dear Members of Congress: We would like to bring to your attention to an issue of great concern to countless residents across the United States: FAA’s failure and r... View on www.change.org ***************************************** GUEST OPINION AND LETTERS TO THE EDITOR ***************************************** 9/21/2015 Times Call GUEST OPINION ‘Thumbs down’ to Mile-Hi apologist ( Link: http://www.timescall.com/columnists/opinion-local/ci_28838618/ingrid-moore-thumbs-down-mile-hi-apologist ) BY INGRID MOORE In his letter to the editor of Sept. 11, Peter Gibbons claimed that the number of thumbs down vs. thumbs up on the Times-Call Intense Debate (ID) site is proof that Citizens for Quiet Skies (CQS) is supported by a only few individuals. Activity on ID is a ridiculous and invalid way to assess support for anything. ID is an online service subscribed to by the paper where an individual can create a login using any name they make up. They can then post anonymous comments in response to something published in the paper, including a “thumbs up” or “thumbs down” to someone else’s comment. However, there is no verification of or guard against one individual creating multiple login names, and some people create multiple personas. These people can vote several times, so counting these is meaningless. Also, they can be from anywhere in the world and are not at all representative of the local community. When people who support the issue that CQS has raised do dare to speak up in the Opinion page, using their real names, they are viciously attacked by the Mile-Hi Skydiving (MHS) supporters posting on ID. With anonymity, the members of the skydiving/aviation community seem to feel safe in attempting to intimidate with personal attacks, accusations and inaccuracies. The comments posted to Bill Ellis’ recent column is one example. There have even been what appear to be retaliatory low altitude flyovers of people’s residences. With the comments they post and numerous retaliatory actions, the skydiving community portrays itself as a group of selfish, self-centered, arrogant and, at times, vicious people who think they are defending their sport and MHS. Is this how the skydiving community really wants to be represented? The fact that MHS does not discourage this speaks volumes. If this were my business, I would not tolerate this type of behavior on my behalf. Some of those posting comments persistently accuse CQS of having a nefarious secret agenda to close the airport. This is not only false, it is irresponsible and has caused the mistaken perception on the part of local pilots that they have to choose between the airport and quality of life as promoted by CQS. There is actually no basis for this. CQS is not against the sport of skydiving; the group objects to the use of the two MHS loud Twin Otters circling continuously over the local area from dawn to dark. Gibbons criticizes members of CQS who do not live in Longmont. The owner of MHS does not live in Longmont. CQS supporters live in Longmont, Niwot, Gunbarrel and the surrounding area in Boulder County. There are also supporters from far away who are facing similar situations and so are following this noise issue closely. Gibbons asserted that MHS is an asset to the community, using as an example the transportation of city officials during the floods of 2013. Not to discount this contribution, I might point out that there were no skydiving customers right then, so his schedule was pretty open. And as far as being the training center for the Broncos skydiving exhibition team, to me this is not worth the tradeoff for the quiet enjoyment of my home. He claims that very weekend there are people in the parking lot at the airport watching the skydivers— yes, two or three, mostly with kids. And they can leave any time they tire of watching, unlike the many of us who cannot escape the continuous noise from his Twin Otter airplanes. If you’re tired of reading about the issue, then quit reading about it. The people impacted by the noise don’t have the choice to walk away. How is this business a true asset to Longmont when they have been operating for the past eight years without paying over $41,000 per year in lease fees owed and pay nothing for the use of the parachute landing zone? And they do not generate sales tax revenue for the city— skydiving is exempted by law from sales taxes. What does the community really get out of this? How do I, as a citizen of Longmont, benefit in any way from this? Paraphrasing a previous T-C Line call, how can a business be considered a good community citizen when it knows the concerns of residents but refuses to compromise, has to hire a PR firm to speak for it, and has been sued in desperation by its own community seeking relief from excessive noise? Ingrid Moore has been a resident of Longmont for 20 years. Her yard is a certified wildlife habitat, and I am a concerned citizen involved with environmental and quality of life issues. 9/19/2015 – Times Call Surely, motorcycles are city’s purview (Link; http://www.timescall.com/opinion/letterstotheeditor/ci_28838775/surely-longmont-can-do-something-about-loud-motorcycles ) I think that Quiet Skies might profitably turn their attention to motorcycles and rename their efforts Quiet Streets. Bemusedly, I have followed as they worked fruitlessly on abating skydiving noise. When Darcy and I moved to Longmont, we knew there was an airport nearby and that airplanes make noise. In fact, our house is a mile from the airport, and in buying a house just two blocks from Airport Road, we knew what we were getting into. But there is not a Motorcycle Avenue in town. Almost any downtown street will have had the reverberating blatting of motorcycles whose mufflers have been modified to be out of compliance with EPA regulations. Those motorcyclists make noise purposefully, as opposed to the skydiving whose noise is merely ancillary to its operation. This is a problem where council and police can have positive effect. Motorcycle noise is, or should be, more closely under city control than is airport or train noise with their federal involvement. With rigorous and consistent enforcement of clearly written regulations, Longmont can create a reputation as a city that is friendly to motorcyclists but not tolerant of excessive noise. If we can limit cruising with local regulation, surely we can as well limit vehicular traffic noise. Richard Juday Longmont *********************************************************** TAKE ACTION *********************************************************** Write a letter to the editor. Send your thoughtful letter, 300 words or less (be sure to include your address and phone number), to: Times Call: opinion@times-call.com Daily Camera: openforum@dailycamera.com Pressed for time? Call the TC-Line and leave a comment: 720-494-5485 ***************************************** ONLINE RESOURCES ***************************************** TRACK FLIGHTS WITH WEBTRAK http://webtrak5.bksv.com/den3 QUIET SKIES Web Site: CitizensForQuietSkies.org LIKE US ON FACEbook We’re also on Twitter at https://twitter.com/kgibbsBoulder To register a noise complaint: http://citizensforquietskies.org/help/complaint/ -
Longmont City Council will take up skydiving noise
Jumpdude replied to stratostar's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
That's all directly copied from her emails! The only thing I add is the link beside the text rather than making it a clicky! I'll be glad to post screenshots if that's preferred! -
Longmont City Council will take up skydiving noise
Jumpdude replied to stratostar's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
Here's another long one from the Kimmie propaganda dept! ***************************************** UPCOMING EVENTS ***************************************** Longmont Farmers Market WHEN: Sat, Sept. 19 from 8 to noon WHERE: Longmont fairgrounds We will be focusing on outreach regarding the petition. Please stop by to say hello! ***************************************** THE PETITION AND FAA REAUTHORIZATION ***************************************** We’re less than 3 days into the petition campaign and already there are 260 signatures from ordinary citizens across Colorado as well as New York, California, Arizona and Illinois. We’re off to a great start. Many thanks to those who have already signed. Please share the petition far and wide - this is our primary focus for the next month or so until the FAA Reauthorization bill is signed. ARTICLE IN AVIATION IMPACT REFORM http://aireform.com/please-sign-this-petition/ THE PETITION https://www.change.org/p/members-of-congress-urge-congress-to-adopt-regulations-to-reduce-airplane-noise ***************************************** LETTERS AND EDITORIALS ***************************************** Times Call 9/15/2015 GUEST OPINION Bill Ellis: How Longmont's skydiving plane reminds of the Concorde (Link; http://www.timescall.com/columnists/opinion-local/ci_28811996/bill-ellis-how-longmonts-skydiving-plane-reminds-concorde ) Remember theConcorde Longmont, we’ve got a problem: Noise! For many months now letters and opinions have landed on the Opinion page both for and against Citizens for Quiet skies, CQS. For a while I withheld judgment because the nuisance of those skydiving planes was not over my neighborhood some 3 to 4 miles away from Vance Brand Airport. Yet I could still hear them, just not to a nuisance level. But then an article appeared about that test flight observed but not heard by the judge in the civil case. On that day proponents of quieter skies noted the skydiving plane altered its route and flew over Lyons before climbing to the drop Zone over the airport. That maneuver cleverly hid the nuisancelevel noise over relatively unpopulated farmland between Longmont and Lyons. Recently an ancient memory bubbled to the surface: The initial test flight of the French-British Super Sonic Transport Concorde out of Dulles International Airport located 30 miles west of Washington, D.C., and about 19 miles from my home in Manassas, Va. That was big news around Metro-DC and telecast on all major TV networks. The FAA stationed recording equipment around the Dulles runway to be used for landing and takeoff hoping to catch the British/French plane exceeding regulated noise levels. The U.S. Department of Transportation had issued rules allowing only subsonic flights over land. Two Concordes landed at Dulles May 24, 1976, one from Britain the other from France. Both took off May 25, however the Concorde flight back to Paris changed runways at the last minute to one not monitored by FAA testing equipment. Here is a description from the GhostsofDC.org archives: “One nearby resident, Mrs. Puterbaugh, called the Washington Post to report the terrible experience she had of being in the flight path of the jet. ‘I thought it was horrible...,’ she said. ‘My daughter’s show horse jumped over a 5-foot fence. She ran around it twice and jumped over…[The pilot] must have gunned it when he got over my house… It was terrifying.’ Mrs. Puterbaugh said she had to look for her horses and goats after the takeoff, and that some of the goats hid under the truck.” Schools in the flight path let students out on the playgrounds to observe the Concorde. One student reported the awful screeching and rumbling noise from overhead that identified it. On May 25, I arrived home from my 90-minute commute from DC and was greeted by my wife and son yelling and jumping up and down at the front door. They were so excited I thought we’d won the Virginia lottery. Here’s their story: They’d watched the Concorde take off from Dulles to horrendous noise from our TV, but when the plane disappeared from view the noise continued pretty loud. And then it got louder and louder until my wife and son ran outside and were shocked to see the plane directly overhead, 19 miles from Dulles. Only then did the pilot open the throttle full power to climb to its appropriate altitude and gain supersonic speed. Sound familiar? Until the flood of September 2013, my wife and I routinely walked four times every week at Pella Crossing, less than a mile from the Longmont airport. We heard those nuisance-noisy planes take off and watched them climb and circle always over the airport and nearby neighborhoods. When Quiet Skies first started to complain about noise, I wondered if there couldn’t be some compromise between the two sides. Perhaps fly an alternating flight pattern away from the airport to dissipate the noise. Maybe a muffler? Anything to alleviate the extreme noise, tone it down. But I am informed there was no compromise and no budge from its status quo by the skydiving company. And of course, the judge didn’t hear anything since the plane flew to Lyons that day of the supposed test. On the Friday, Sept. 11 Opinion page, Mr. Peter Gibbons says only “onetenth of 1 percent” of Longmont residents are represented by Citizens for Quiet Skies, and more importantly the Broncos’ skydiving exhibition team practices at Vance Brand Airport. Well that settles it. We’ll sacrifice whatever it takes for our beloved men in blue and orange. But the noise from those planes does so affect thousands around the airport. I have heard it. Friends in Longmont have heard it. Mr. Gibbons’ statistics are erroneous. Nuisance noise is a Longmont community problem. We have it from two main sources: trains and planes. Refusing compromise because one holds the upper hand at present is not characteristic of a good community member. Bill Ellis is a local author; reply to bill-ellis @comcast.net. Nuisance noise is a Longmont community problem. We have it from two main sources: trains and planes. Refusing compromise because one holds the upper hand at present is not characteristic of a good community member. Bill Ellis St. Vrain Valley Voices Aviation Impact Reform 9/11/2015 **************************** AVIATION IMPACT REFORM - Mile-Hi Skdives' noise offset strategy gets a big thumbs down (Link; http://aireform.com/mile-hi-skydives-noise-offset-strategy-gets-a-big-thumbs-down/) **************************** For reference (this was sent earlier): Times Call 9/11/2015 Quiet Skies represents very few residents I would like to bring to your attention all of the feedback via the “thumbs up” and “thumbs down” feature that has been published in response to Citizens for Quiet Skies. With every editorial posted referencing this organization, the feedback has consistently shown that the people do not agree with them. The facts are that CQS consists of less than one-tenth of 1 percent of the residents of Longmont and that the majority is exhausted with them. Residents appear to support the company that is based in their city, not someone who lives in Gunbarrel. Mile-Hi Skydiving has proven to be an asset to the community through support of combat veterans and the transportation of city officials during the floods of 2013. Did everyone forget what Mile-Hi is to the community? It should also be noted that Mile-Hi is the training center for the Denver Broncos skydiving exhibition team “Thunderstorm.” We all love seeing these guys jump into the Broncos games. Also, every weekend I see the residents of Longmont gathered at the statue, paid for by the city, watching and enjoying the skydivers. Why all of the negative press? Over someone who doesn’t even work or live in our city? Lastly, why is the Longmont City Council addressing issues from someone who doesn’t even live here? Why? I think we have enough to handle. Peter Gibbons Longmont *********************************************************** TAKE ACTION *********************************************************** Write a letter to the editor. Send your thoughtful letter, 300 words or less (be sure to include your address and phone number), to: Times Call: opinion@times-call.com Daily Camera: openforum@dailycamera.com Pressed for time? Call the TC-Line and leave a comment: 720-494-5485 *********************************************************** IN THE NEWS *********************************************************** Development plans prompt Cloverdale to wrestle over future of airport http://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/4457201-181/development-plans-prompt-cloverdale-to?page=0 ***************************************** ONLINE RESOURCES ***************************************** TRACK FLIGHTS WITH WEBTRAK http://webtrak5.bksv.com/den3 QUIET SKIES Web Site: CitizensForQuietSkies.org LIKE US ON FACEbook We’re also on Twitter at https://twitter.com/kgibbsBoulder To register a noise complaint: http://citizensforquietskies.org/help/complaint/ -
Longmont City Council will take up skydiving noise
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Today's installment of the nutcase's propaganda!! And it's surprisingly short! _________________________________________________________________________ Hello Friends, We've been working on the petition below for a while, and it is now live on http://change.org. This is a nationwide effort to gain support for reasonable regulations to reduce airplane noise. Please take a moment to read and sign the petition, then share it with your friends and neighbors both near and far. We are focusing on the petition and FAA Reauthorization for the next couple of months. Many thanks to Jeff Lewis at Aviation Impact Reform (aireform.com) and Len Schaier at QuietSkies.net for their contributions to this effort. -Kim Petition to Urge Congress to adopt regulations to REDUCE AIRPLANE NOISE (LINK; https://www.change.org/p/members-of-congress-urge-congress-to-adopt-regulations-to-reduce-airplane-noise?recruiter=31196273&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=share_email_responsive ) -
Longmont City Council will take up skydiving noise
Jumpdude replied to stratostar's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
Here's today's installment from Kimmie's propaganda dept! __________________________________________________________________________________ Hello Quiet Skies supporters: I encourage our supporters to take the time – today - to respond to Mr. Gibbons letter below. After enduring last weekend’s off-the-charts noise abuse from 3 jump planes operating concurrently, I hope that many of you will be motivated to set the record straight. The noise problem is real, and Mile-Hi Skydiving should be held accountable for the ongoing nuisance they are creating. We are working to put the finishing touches on proposed provisions in the FAA Reauthorization. Those updates will be disclosed soon. ***************************************** LETTER TO THE EDITOR ***************************************** Times Call 9/11/2015 Quiet Skies represents very few residents I would like to bring to your attention all of the feedback via the “thumbs up” and “thumbs down” feature that has been published in response to Citizens for Quiet Skies. With every editorial posted referencing this organization, the feedback has consistently shown that the people do not agree with them. The facts are that CQS consists of less than one-tenth of 1 percent of the residents of Longmont and that the majority is exhausted with them. Residents appear to support the company that is based in their city, not someone who lives in Gunbarrel. Mile-Hi Skydiving has proven to be an asset to the community through support of combat veterans and the transportation of city officials during the floods of 2013. Did everyone forget what Mile-Hi is to the community? It should also be noted that Mile-Hi is the training center for the Denver Broncos skydiving exhibition team “Thunderstorm.” We all love seeing these guys jump into the Broncos games. Also, every weekend I see the residents of Longmont gathered at the statue, paid for by the city, watching and enjoying the skydivers. Why all of the negative press? Over someone who doesn’t even work or live in our city? Lastly, why is the Longmont City Council addressing issues from someone who doesn’t even live here? Why? I think we have enough to handle. Peter Gibbons Longmont *********************************************************** TAKE ACTION *********************************************************** Write a letter to the editor. Send your thoughtful letter, 300 words or less (be sure to include your address and phone number), to: Times Call: opinion@times-call.com Daily Camera: openforum@dailycamera.com Pressed for time? Call the TC-Line and leave a comment: 720-494-5485 ***************************************** ONLINE RESOURCES ***************************************** TRACK FLIGHTS WITH WEBTRAK: http://webtrak5.bksv.com/den3 QUIET SKIES Web Site: CitizensForQuietSkies.org LIKE US ON FACEbook We’re also on Twitter at https://twitter.com/kgibbsBoulder To register a noise complaint: http://citizensforquietskies.org/help/complaint/ -
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Longmont City Council will take up skydiving noise
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...plus, all NEW expenses incurred by the defendants. It sounds as if (if I'm reading this correctly) they want the organization "CQS" to be the only one liable? So later they can walk away from any monetary penalty. Kimmey must be feeling the heat? Then she bankrupts out of paying anything! -
Longmont City Council will take up skydiving noise
Jumpdude replied to stratostar's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
Here's the propaganda from Kimmie that came a little while ago! _________________________________________________________________________________________ *********************************************************** EDITORIALS *********************************************************** Many thanks to all who have taken the time to write letters to the newspaper and call the TC-Line! I share both pro and con letters so that you can consider other views, and RESPOND with your own letter. Keep the letters flowing! ******************************************************** 8/20 Times Call Progress won’t halt for your peace and quiet When I first moved to Longmont its population was 50,000. The city limit was Ninth Street. Hover and Airport roads were one-laners. Cows and horses grazed in town. The airport was smaller, there was less street traffic, and yes, it was a lot quieter. Times change; the population has doubled, the city has spread in every direction, and all the farms and meadowlarks are gone. You can’t stop progress any more than you can a flood, and Longmont has seen a lot of both. So to the Quiet Skies folks, I say your environment has changed, so either cope with it or move to a quieter area like Wyoming or Montana. Longmont and Colorado will not grind to a halt for anyone’s peace and quiet. Close your windows, turn up the TV or AC, and dream of a quieter time. Unfortunately you’re 25 years too late in complaining. Richard Savino Longmont 8/19 Times Call Longmont skydivers part of world record On a positive note in skydiving news, the existing skydiving headdown world record of 138 people was broken July 31. That day, 164 people, 12 of whom live in Colorado, set a skydiving world record at Skydive Chicago in Ottawa, Ill. Of those 12 Colorado residents, eight call Mile-Hi Skydiving their home drop zone. The only other states with greater participation were California and Arizona. It took 13 attempts to set the world record. Each jump involved seven planes, flying in tight formation at an altitude of 19,500 feet above the ground. The dive consisted of 164 people holding hands in a pre-specified formation while flying upsidedown (or head-down) at speeds averaging 175 mph. The whole thing had to be completed within 60 seconds in order to provide enough time for every skydiver to track away into clear airspace and have a safe parachute opening. To qualify for an event like this, each participant had to go to one of the three-day tryout camps that were held around the world and receive an invite. The skills and knowledge necessary to get an invite come from years of training in the sport of skydiving. The city of Longmont and the Longmont Airport should be proud to be the home of Mile-Hi Skydiving, which is a training ground for some of the top skydivers in the world. Skydiving is one of the most misunderstood sports out there. The vimeo link is my point of view from the GoPro that I wore as one of the 164. I hope the reader enjoys it and sheds light on the beauty of skydiving. My POV: vimeo.com/136150376. Further info on the record can be found at tinyurl.com/vertical-skydive -record. Brian Ball Golden 8/19 Times Call (also Camera) Whining? No, we’re just speaking up for ourselves Wow! I bet the people calling the Citizens For Quiet Skies “whiners” are the same people who are holding us all hostages in our homes with droning planes. Is it “whining” to try to stop noise pollution? Is it “whining” to stand up for your rights to the enjoyment of your own property? Is it “whining” to ask someone not to buzz your house if you have the courage to stand up for yourself? This is America, guys. Only in Nazi Germany did they think “whining” was punishable. I think that by trying to punish our “whining” with your little buzzing flybys, you are interfering with our First Amendment rights. Have you ever read the First Amendment of our Constitution? I’ll make it easy for you by stating it here so that you don’t have to look it up. “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” The next time you go up, try to enjoy the incredible beauty and freedom of flying over this incredible valley, but remember that there are a lot of your Colorado sisters and brothers down below who are trying to enjoy the same space. Elizabeth Owen Boulder 8/16 Times Call (also Camera) Richard Auletta: Boulder should welcome Mile-Hi Skydiving Posted: 08/16/2015 08:29:33 AM MDT | Updated: 3 days ago The kerfuffle over sky diving operations at the Longmont Municipal Airport has a simple solution; Mile-Hi Skydiving (MHS) operates from the Boulder Municipal Airport (BDU). In my correspondence with the BDU Airport Manager Timothy Head, Mayor Matt Appelbaum, and the City Council, they have all expressed the desire to grow the business and revenues from BDU. Considering the following points, the city of Boulder should actively solicit MHS to relocate to BDU. • Mile High Gliding already uses Boulder (Pearl and 28th) as one of its primary glider tow boxes. • Journeys Aviation Boulder and Specialty Flight Training, with its Cessna Pilot Center, each operate a flight school that use Boulder as their primary touch-and-go flight box. • The additional revenue will allow the expansion of BDU including lengthening and paving both runways, adding an additional runway and instrument landing system (ILS), and a 24/7 staffed tower that would make BDU an all-weather ILS air transportation hub for Boulder and Boulder County. • Boulder is infinitely more photogenic than Longmont. BDU already hosts 50,000 flights a year, a flight every six minutes during daylight hours, making MHS a perfect addition to BDU's business base, increasing both Boulder tax revenues and quality of life. The city of Boulder can surely find MHS a drop zone near BDU; Valmont Park comes to mind. Watching parachutists floating down over Boulder with the Flatirons in the background would be a joy to behold. Advertisement So I say, as should all the citizens of Boulder, we want Mile-Hi Skydiving and the business bonanza its operations will bring to the city of Boulder. Richard Auletta 8/17 Times Call Mile-Hi has little regard for residents it impacts Fortunately, I live near the Rocky Mountain Metropolitan Airport, which is responsive to local concerns. The problems that unleashed more than 4,000 complaints in 2010 have all but disappeared. In 2013, the airport responded courteously to multiple concerns about an explosion on their property during a fireworks show. Given public relations efforts at RMMA, I’m increasingly amazed at how Mile-Hi Skydiving is allowed to conduct itself at Vance Brand Municipal Airport. The company compromises the relationship the airport has with neighboring communities. How does a company in the age of social media maintain a business with so little regard for the residents whose lives it impacts? Part of the answer may be that customers who drive from Golden or Littleton to take skydiving lessons are not aware of the company’s practices. As media attention escalates, this will change. I’m grateful to live where neighbors care about one another and where businesses take civic responsibility seriously. I empathize with the people whose lives are disrupted by hours of airplane noise that they could not have anticipated when they bought their homes. JanWhitt Superior unpublished letter to editor I used to run my aircraft sales business out of Longmont. Good safe airport, good service, good relationship with the city, friendly people. Then the skydivers took over, and everything changed. I moved my 3-5 million dollar sales business to Metro Airport. I have nothing against a skydiving operation, but Longmont was just not the right place for it. I'm a 25,000+ hour professional pilot, a Certified Flight Instructor for 40 continuous years, never an accident or incident. I've seen too many people killed doing the wrong things with airplanes. I moved my business out of Longmont because the skydiving operation was an accident waiting to happen. I am asked often by clients where I would recommend they take flying lessons. Longmont is not on this list. I would not allow my son to take his lessons there. I fly a corporate King Air for five different companies. If one of them wants to fly to Longmont, we land at Metro or Ft. Collins/Loveland and drive down. There is a place for a skydiving operation, this area is not the right place. There has been some minor accidents with this operation, but thankfully, nothing major so far. But, this doesn't prove that it is a safe operation. After all, you are right five out of six times playing Russian Roulette. Mark Hegg CFI ATP *********************************************************** TAKE ACTION *********************************************************** Write a letter to the editor. Send your thoughtful and rational letter, 300 words or less (be sure to include your address and phone number), to: Times Call: opinion@times-call.com Daily Camera: openforum@dailycamera.com Pressed for time? Call the TC-Line and leave a comment: 720-494-5485 _________________________________________________________________________________________________ Here's the second email _________________________________________________________________________________________________ Dear Citizens For Quiet Skies: I am delighted to report that, as a result of YOUR EFFORTS, Congressman Jared Polis has enthusiastically joined the Quiet Skies Congressional Caucus. This is great news and a big step in the right direction. We were recently informed that the FAA Reauthorization process has stalled due to a current emphasis on the longterm highway reauthorization. However, we were assured that the Reauthorization negotiations will continue later this year, in the October or November timeframe. We will keep you posted. In light of these recent developments, we want to focus efforts on gaining more Quiet Skies Caucus members and other outreach. We'll come back to the FAA Reauthorization when the time is right. Please take just a few moments to participate in this week's TAKE ACTION below. Thank you all for your ongoing support and dedication. -Kim *********************************************************** TAKE ACTION - BUILDING QUIET SKIES CAUCUS MEMBERSHIP *********************************************************** *********************************************************** 1. For constituents of Congressman Jared Polis (Unincorporated Boulder County and city of Boulder) *********************************************************** Please send a brief email to Congressman Polis to thank him for joining the Quiet Skies Caucus. Jared Polis: jared@jaredpolis.com Jennifer George-Nichol: jgeorgenichol@gmail.com Danielle Henry: Danielle.henry@mail.house.gov Sample: Dear Congressman Polis, Thank you so much for joining the Quiet Skies Congressional Caucus. I really appreciate you taking that action. I look forward to seeing meaningful provisions in the FAA reauthorization bill to restore sanity to our neighborhoods currently being robbed of peace and quiet by excessive skydiving jump plane noise. The problem is not skydiving, it’s the recent unrestrained growth of skydiving jump plane noise that needs to be regulated within reasonable limits that accounts for the needs of residents, not just skydive operators. *********************************************************** 2. For constituents of Congressman Ken Buck (4th District) (Longmont) as well as residents outside Boulder County *********************************************************** Write an email to Congressman Ken Buck urging him to join the Quiet Skies caucus. Simply cut and paste the letter from the link below into an email. Feel free to edit it to suit your personal style. Sample Letter to Congress - Join Quiet Skies Caucus (link; http://citizensforquietskies.org/sample-letter-to-congress-member-please-join-quiet-skies-caucuc/ ) Find your Congress member's email here: Directory of Representatives · House.gov (Link; http://www.house.gov/representatives/ ) ***************************************** UPCOMING EVENTS ***************************************** 1. Longmont residents meet with Congressman Ken Buck WHEN: Tuesday, Aug 25 from 1 to 3 pm WHERE: Longmont City Council study session room, 350 Kimbark St. Congressman’s aide to conduct Longmont office hours (8/20 Times Call article) U.S. Rep. Ken Buck, R-Windsor, will have a staff member available in Longmont on Tuesday afternoon to hear 4th Congressional District constituents’ concerns and assist people attempting to navigate federal programs, according to Buck’s office. The Buck staffer’s office hours will be from 1 to 3 p.m. Tuesday in the Longmont City Council study session room, 350 Kimbark St., Longmont. Constituents are encouraged to bring any relevant documents about any problems they’ve encountered dealing with the federal bureaucracy. For further information, call Wes McKinley at 970-702-2136. 2. Longmont Farmers Market this Saturday, Aug. 22 Please stop by to say hello! ***************************************** IN THE NEWS ***************************************** 1. It’s interesting that the FAA logo is positioned next to this “news” article: http://www.aero-news.net/subsite.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=e23ed8e6-c717-4d5d-96f1-1181d7718b0b 2. Longmont activist and public servant extrordinaire JOAN PECK has announced her candidacy for Longmont City Council. You can learn more about Joan at joanpeck.com ***************************************** ONLINE RESOURCES ***************************************** TRACK FLIGHTS WITH WEBTRAK http://webtrak5.bksv.com/den3 QUIET SKIES Web Site: CitizensForQuietSkies.org New court document available – Motion to Reconsider Attorney Fees Court Documents (Link; http://citizensforquietskies.org/the-lawsuit/court-documents/ ) LIKE US ON FACEBOOK We’re also on Twitter at https://twitter.com/kgibbsBoulder To register a noise complaint: http://citizensforquietskies.org/help/complaint/ -
Longmont City Council will take up skydiving noise
Jumpdude replied to stratostar's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
I don't know, I did that from my phone, so if it was, my apologies. I did see where it was discussed, but not a copy of her email.