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And he was only known as "DB Cooper" in the press. They made that part up. The name that he gave to buy tickets was "Dan Cooper." There were a few guys at DZs across the country who got visited by the suits because their initials were DC, their name was "Dan," or some other similarity.

I'm was going to attach two PDF files here. They are clippings from the Washington Post in the 1930s, but they were too large. I'll put links to them instead. http://home.gwu.edu/~brobie/Istel.pdf http://home.gwu.edu/~brobie/boy_jumpers.pdf

Ok ... Let's see how a PDF attachment will work here.

Did an analysis on this one. It's layered.

Pure negligence, although the guy was also probably too nervous about all the cameras, etc., to be concentrating adequately. I've landed (intentionally, and with clearance) on roads before--and taken off. In one case, two of us were flying search in a swampy area and needed to get walkie talkie from the local cops so that we could talk with their boats. We landed on a 2-lane country road with phone poles along the side. Had the fire guys dig up a speed sign as a precaution before the takeoff. Missed the phone poles by about 4' the whole takeoff roll and landing, but that's the whole point.

I agree that this is probably a composite. There's no skin distortion and the hair would have to be more "mussed" than that--even if in a burble at the moment. Gorgeous lady in any case, though. Hmmm ... I wonder if anything else might inflate if the opening was exposed to 120 mph relative wind at such an angle ...

Yep ... I prefer them. Younger or older, I prefer women. I usually dated women about my age, but didn't let that get in my way when my wife didn't let my age get in her way.

I put them in there originally, then edited the post because I didn't think that it looked correct. The punctuation marks aren't part of what's being quoted--but you are probably correct. As for the single quotation mark, that shouldn't be there at all. It's hell to get old and not be able to see what you are typing.

Jim, where John had had "had", had had "had had"; "had had'" had had the teacher's approval.

Kelel - Both of our kids were delivered by a CNM who was one of the most amazing women I've ever met. What a great field of work for a woman to go into!

Not sure how SC does that now, but the issue may have been that they required sales tax to be paid in the state when a vehicle is brought in and licensed from another state--or they may charge personal property tax that's not charged in other states. If he buys the car there (vans should be fairly plentiful), he'll pay the tax up front. I've had cars registered in SC in the past and don't remember the cost being outrageously high.

Is that a contradiction in terms? (Lawyers are like cats -- there are individuals that you might enjoy being around, but as a breed they are pretty reprehensible.)

Oil, that is! Black gold ... Texas Pee!

Although I'm generally an equal opportunity sort, I'm among those who have a penchant for certain types of Asian women. No, it's not that I'm after teens--I just happened to be living in Hawai'i during my early dating years and most of the girls that I dated were Asian.

Mouth - Too bad you didn't read all of Grue's thread. Not everyone was laying all of the blame at the feet of teachers. Don't worry about bragging when you're proud of something. Feel free to show us your A anytime!

Fortunately there was a 1-hour photo right there, so that you cold post the pics for us FAST! I also see there was a cheap motel on the corner. You sure that's not where your passenger "got a little banged up"?

Ivan was well-liked and well-respected. As has been stated here...a few times, he was was apparently pretty fatigued that day, forgot to put on his rig, and a series of unfortunate circumstances led to him going out of the plane without it. The lessons are: -- Not go to the DZ and jump if you are impaired in any way, including fatigue and otherwise not feeling well. -- Check your gear before you get onto the plane, ask others if they'd like you to look over theirs (ask someone competent to look over yours), and be aware of potential dangers for anyone on a load with you. -- If you are a jump pilot (arguably responsible, according to FAA regs, for allowing someone intending to make a jump to get on board without a parachute), and you are acting as PIC, keep an eye on who's getting into your plane. Ok. That's simple enough, isn't it? Watching the film of Ivan's last moments of life might serve to stimulate some desires that you may have, but it's not going to make the sport any safer or improve mankind.

Go with your instincts. It looks grumpy ... or annoyed.

"In a surprise departure from their ordinarily austere in-flight meals program, BOAC announced that fresh squab will be introduced on select flights."

Actually, I think that they help spelling--provided that the person wants to improve. The user has to see the correct spelling of a word before they change it. Eventually they'll figure out how to spell the words correctly.

SC, in general -- as with any other place, how much you enjoy a place is mainly going to be up to you. I lived in the RTP area of NC when it was being created and watched the Yankee Hordes descend upon, and universally criticize, that part of the country. Within 5-10 years, though, none of them wanted to transfer back to NY, NJ, or MN. Most people who go to the Greenville/Spartanburg area and take the place for what it is end up enjoying themselves. If your'e only happy in a huge city, however, you're screwed. Buying a car in the South -- either buy from an individual who has advertised in the paper (making sure that he's not a small-time dealer pretending to be selling a personal car), or get one from the used car division of a large car dealer. Stay away from the small and "out in the country" car lots. They often sell rust buckets and lemons bought cheap at northern auctions. DZs -- haven't jumped at Skydive Carolina but have heard good things about them. I think that they are an outgrowth of the old Midland/Mint Hill DZ where I jumped for awhile. Social Life -- Visit Clemson. Don't visit BJU.

Going back to the original posting in this thread, I think that we all share some amount of responsibility. I teach graduate students, many of whom have been public school teachers. I also have kids in public schools. That's allowed me to see the best, and the worst, of how or public schools function. Parents have a great deal of responsibility for how, and what, their kids learn. Many of them are either not present to take on that responsibility, or they find reasons why they should be excused from doing so. One of the most prevalent excuses is, "What can I do? The government won't let me punish them!" I see my kids' education as being managed somewhat equally by a team that consists of their teachers, the school administrators, and their parents. We've run into one situation where an entrenched group of teachers and administrators in one school wanted parents to drop the kids off, pick them up, buy the band candy, go to sports events, and not interfere beyond that. It was nearly impossible to schedule a meeting with a teacher (meetings with parents had to involve all of the child's teachers and the administrators, and scheduling that sort of meeting was nearly impossible to do in a timely manner). They had a good thing going--the system was working for their benefit--and they didn't want anyone to rock their boat. That school became known to parents as "the black hole" because no light seemed to come out of it. A group of parents saw that school in the future for their kids and chipped away at it for over 5 years. By the time their kids got to that school, the situation--and staff--had changed remarkably. We now have a principal who understands that parents must be involved in order to achieve the best results. My experience with teachers in a multi-state area is that there is a tremendous difference in competence among individuals and from system to system. Our own kids are in a pretty decent environment, compared to others in the region. That said, we still have a very few teachers who, although properly certified, have elected to pass out good grades and not do much teaching. Some of these are popular among students (no work...good grades), but they are a waste of our kids' time. They are the ones who say, "What can we do??? The parents won't let us discipline the kids!!" We have a few more who do what they need to do, but who have unfortunately lost the spark of enthusiasm that makes the difference between an educator and a school employee. Ok...here's where a few teachers who might be reading this would repeat the worn-out, but still-often-used, refrain, "What am I supposed to DO?? Put on a CLOWN COSTUME and DANCE AROUND TO ENTERTAIN THEM???!!" The answer is a simple, "No." They don't need to be entertained. They need to be inspired. They need to know that you are a leader. They need to know that the subject is important to you. They need to want to find out why this leader places such a premium upon knowledge. They also need to come home to parents who share that enthusiasm for education and who don't make excuses like, "That's good enough!! Everyone can figure out what you are trying to say!!" & soapbox mode off #

Hey! That's what I said! Yep ... smart dog!!

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Craichead - Yours was also correct. It just didn't make the same contrasting point that I was going for. (...for which I was going.)