warpedskydiver

Did I mention that the 65yr old dipshit showed up with an un boresighted scope on his rifle and had rounds varied in his magazine from 125grains to 180 grains all in 30-06???? His POS son also shot his dads brand new truck through both doors. I don't hunt with them anymore and the fact that they were even brought with was enough to bust up our hunting party. Now we are back to two to three guys and all ex military.

And hide one in a slit in your boot uppers for "special" occasions

if you travel to the cliffs of Dover youwill find that you do not need a tunnel or a plane to fly your body in the prevailing winds... France sucks so hard that there is already a 120mph prevailing wind.

After they get rid of all guns, next on their agenda will be the bow and arrow, and those damned terrorist parachutes, ask herr Daley about that.

A current military weapon and 500 rounds of ammo last time I read it. With penalties for non compliance

They should all be voted out of office. We as a people should not stand for this. To fit the definition they gave scopes and centerfire cartridges are a definition of a sniper weapon. The argument they give falls flat on it's face, and as usual the sheeple lap it up.

If you want to see the twisted, inept, feeble mind of the libtard in action, read on..... Brady campaign blog Monday, February 19, 2007 - 2:09 AM "The tragic proliferation of Sniper Rifles I would like to take a moment to comment on the proliferation of Sniper Rifles. Sniper Rifles are typically equipped with a high-powered scope, and every single one of them can blow through the body armor cops wear. They can even penetrate multiple police cars. Does the Second Amendment protect cop-killer Sniper Rifles? The NRA certainly thinks so, along with the powerful gun lobby that wants your children and your law enforcement officers to be at risk from these weapons of mass destruction. Some of these Sniper Rifles can even penetrate ballistic or armored glass, lightly armored vehicles, and armored limousines. Senator Ted Kennedy attempted to solve this with an important bill that would have banned armor piercing ammunition and protected lawful firearm commerce: "Another rifle caliber, the 30.30 caliber, was responsible for penetrating three officers' armor and killing them in 1993, 1996, and 2002. This ammunition is also capable of puncturing light-armored vehicles, ballistic or armored glass, armored limousines, even a 600-pound safe with 600 pounds of safe armor plating..... ..It is outrageous and unconscionable that such ammunition continues to be sold in the United States of America.." Should our elected officials live under the threat of reprisal on their lives from disgruntled constituents? The Gun Lobby seems to think so. We disagree. Sniper Rifles can be equipped with precision optics above even what the Military uses, allowing a sniper to deliver rounds within millimeters of accuracy - enabling them to engage targets at distances of well over one hundred meters. Is there a pressing need to be able to kill with accuracy at that distance? It is too far to justify as self defense. It is too far for hunting. It is only useful for those who wish to murder from afar. Large caliber Sniper Rifles such as the .50 Browning Machine Gun can derail freight cars, shoot down aircraft and helicopters, damage vital ground equipment such as power substations, fuel tanks, and air traffic control, and cause complete chaos. For more information on why large caliber machine-gun rounds must be banned, visit http://www.50caliberterror.com. A shipment of large caliber machine-gun round sniper rifles made by Steyr turned up in Iran, and are being used on our own soldiers, as the .50 bullets easily defeat their body armor, their up-armored humvees, and even APCs. Many forward thinking, progressive politicians such as Ted Kennedy, Chuck Schumer, Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama have voted against Center-Fire Rifle Ammunition of types for Sniper Rifles, but due to the pressure and massive financial resources of the gun industry, the necessary steps to protect our homes and lives have not been attained. Sniper Rifles have been used by murderers and spree killers for years, with notable incidents such as the Beltway Snipers, the Clocktower Sniper, and more. ANY rifle configured and equipped as a sniper rifle has no sporting purpose especially as a hunting rifle. They are too big and heavy to take to the field. Designed for distance shooting, they are useless for the ranges at which game animals are normally shot, and when used on sporting sized game at range they often just wound the animal, inhumanely forcing it to die slowly while the would-be hunter tracks it to finish it off. Most Sniper Rifles fire atypically large cartridges and ultra high velocity ammunition that can travel much greater distances that standard ammunition. The danger imposed from missed shots and ricochetes from these specialty rounds is unreasonable. Most of these rifles carry multiple rounds, with either an automatic mechanism, or a quick toggle action to rapidly move another bullet into the breech, ready to fire into another victim. In most states, they are nearly unrestricted. Anyone over the age of 18 can buy one. If they can't pass a background check, they skirt the NCIS system by going to a gunshow, or finding a private sale in the newspaper. A murderer camped at a distance from a public gathering could quickly turn it into a massacre dwarfing anything we have seen before in the United States, if they had a Sniper Rifle. If they adopted hit and run tactics, entire portions of our country could be shut down. Sniper Rifles shoot a high powered bullet that is almost always fatal. They are designed for one thing- delivering powerful overkill with deadly precision. You don't need the kind of power and accuracy that can kill a man at five hundred yards for hunting rabbits or defending your house. We should also give commendations to France because many years ago they designated any firearm capable of shooting military ammunition as a military arm, illegal to posess without a special permit and unlawful to use for hunting. The 223, 308, 7mm mauser, 30-06, and 6.5x55 have no place in the hunting fields of France. Firearms shooting these calibers are military weapons only designed for killing PEOPLE and should be kept out of the hands of the general population. Because they have no hunting purpose, there is no reason for civilians to own them. Every state in the USA has hunting equipment rules that limit the caliber of firearm used to take game. They also limit the types of rifles, length, magazine capacity, etc. States should amend these hunting regulations to restrict the use of "sniper" rifles, specialty "sniper" cartridges, and "sniper" ammunition. Limits on weight, barrel length, bipods and tripods, thumbhole stocks and pistol grips, night vision type scopes, scopes of excessive magnification, super magnum and high velocity ammunition, and military slings should be imposed. They have no place in the hunting fields of America and hunting usage should not be used as an argument for civilians to own such firearms and weapons. There are more than ample hunting rifles, cartridges, and rounds of ammunition to choose from without them.

Iraq Gunfire Answers Reporter's Question Monday, February 19, 2007 5:48 PM EST The Associated Press By KIM GAMEL SAMARRA, Iraq (AP) — The Humvees set out from the forward operating base, forcing cars and trucks to the side of the road to avoid car bombs. We head south to Samarra. We rolled past men wearing dishdashas, traditional Arab robes, staring quietly from storefronts — where everything from wedding gowns to tires to bananas, cauliflower and radishes were on display. It was Saturday — market day — and the streets were bustling. I felt an urge to ask the driver to pull over so I could check out some deep red rugs with intricate traditional patterns. Western reporters in Iraq are largely confined to heavily guarded compounds and armored cars, and rarely venture out onto the street. But we were on a schedule. So I settled for leaning back — at least as far as my body armor would let me — and taking in the sights of this ancient city in the Sunni heartland north of Baghdad. We drove past ducks paddling around a marshy pond. Then we crossed a bridge spanning the Tigris River, on top of one of two dams that help irrigate one of the country's main agricultural regions. The dam was protected by heavy security. On our left was the concrete shell of a former private hospital. It's off a short secured stretch of road that the U.S. troops here call the Green Zone — after its larger and more famous namesake, the heavily fortified area in Baghdad that houses the Iraqi government and the American embassy. The commander, who acted as our tour guide, told me over my headphones to look forward. We were approaching the ruins of the Askariya shrine, one of Shiite Islam's holiest places. It was bombed a year ago, reducing its glorious golden dome to a pile of rubble. That attack dramatically escalated the daily retaliatory violence between Sunni and Shiites, the bombings and death-squad murders that have claimed thousands of lives. A second blue-and-gold dome at the site was untouched. It, and a golden minaret, still sparkled against the blue sky. The compound is surrounded by a high tiled wall. Lt. Col. Viet X. Luong, the commander of the 2nd Battalion, 505th Parachute Infantry Regiment, offered to lend me his interpreter so I could talk with some Iraqis on the street. I eagerly climbed out of the tan armored vehicle to follow them into a convenience store: here was my chance to spend a few minutes outside my cocoon of armor and security. But talking to ordinary Iraqis on the street is no simple task. We approached the shop's cashier. But he politely declined to answer questions, putting his hand to his chest in apology and saying that he didn't want to be seen associating with Americans. That, he explained, would make him a target for the insurgents hiding on the outskirts of the city. It told him, through the interpreter, that I understood the situation and didn't want to cause him any problems. A tall man wearing a black traditional Arab robe and a red-and-white checkered headdress stopped outside the store and agreed to talk to us. I asked him about the situation in Samarra, 60 miles north of Baghdad. As he started to answer, we heard a burst of machine gun fire. A bullet from a sniper struck a pile of bricks in front of us. We all ran back into the store. After about 10 minutes of sporadic fire, the shooting finally stopped. A little girl playing in the street nearby was lightly wounded by the gunfire — there was blood on her pink jumpsuit. The soldiers gave her first aid along with a stuffed animal and candy to cheer her up. It was a minor attack, the kind that seldom finds its way into the news. But it's an example of the violence Iraqis face every day. Before we left, I glanced back at the man I almost got to interview about life in Samarra. He nodded and gave me a sardonic smile, as if to say: You have your answer.

What they didn't tell you is they too (the ladies) would like to stretch your rectum out until it hangs like a wizards sleeve.

It just leaves a bad taste in my mouth when I see someone hunting with one. I'd be willing to bet that is all that Zumbo is saying. I was unable to download his article on my computer, so I can't say for sure. Again I support you right to own one, but I'm not very tickled to see anyone afield with one.....Steve1 The only way to combat that is to educate the hunters, I too have seen people emptying magazines at will, only they had a pump action 760/7600 or semi auto Remington 742/7400, both those rifles can have either a five or ten round magazine. The last idiot I saw do that was 65yrs of age and was in need of a percussion tuning. ETA: that was the same asshole I had complained of in a post last year, I made him march his sorry ass out into the field and recover the fawn he shot. What a sorry ass motherfucker.

kinda like this one huh?

No difference

Well John there you have it, killing an animal with a firearm with a wooden stock is sporting, but if you have a synthetic stock you should be banished from the field. Thanks for claryfying that.

If they are terrorist weapons, then the people who own them become the terrorists is that it?

QuoteIs there a ligimate reason to take a gun like a MP5 with burst ability on a hunt with you? Quote Hunting with anything that fires more than one bullet with a single pull of the trigger is a serious felony. If you would like I will post the regulations of every state in the union. I do not see any need for anything other than semi- auto in the field. Full Auto ownership is heavily regulated, expensive, and a drag because in order to carry it accross state lines you must provide a form 4 and pay $200 to the BATFE and get permission to do so.

Did I get that Texan translation right?

That's when someone says hey I haven't been home in a long time, I appreciate your offer and would take you up on it, however I will be on my SO so hard, it will be like that thing in the movie Alien.

Come on up to SDC and go shooting with us.

It wasn't an article, it was just a blog. It wasn't anti-gun at all. It simply said he was surprised at what the guide told him about the growing popularity of using assult weapons for hunting. His opinion was that assult weapons should not be used for hunting, rather that hunters should use "sporting arms". The reaction is a pretty good indication of where people are coming from. I'm shocked they can get internet access in their bunkers. I think you misread here is a verbatim quote from that article: Quote How is that not Anti Gun?

Oh I know Gene and I figured you didn't see the answers first. Great guesses Yeah that grendel looks fat and short and yet outperforms and hits harder at over 750 meters than any of the other cartridges shown. Wow...

Max do me a favor and go check this out, get pics and I will make sure that our elected officials get on this ASAP. Shit like that should never happen, ever.

reminder to read two lines above you.

Check this out. http://www.remington.com/ from the homepage of Remington Arms NOTICE: Remington is in the process of severing our sponsorships with Mr. Zumbo. Remington in no way shares or advocates any of the comments made by Mr. Zumbo on his blog site. A formal announcement will be released by noon today.

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17160574/ MSNBC.com WP: Battling system at Walter Reed Wounded soldiers face neglect, frustration at Army’s top medical facility By Dana Priest and Anne Hull The Washington Post Updated: 5:43 a.m. ET Feb 18, 2007 WASHINGTON - Behind the door of Army Spec. Jeremy Duncan's room, part of the wall is torn and hangs in the air, weighted down with black mold. When the wounded combat engineer stands in his shower and looks up, he can see the bathtub on the floor above through a rotted hole. The entire building, constructed between the world wars, often smells like greasy carry-out. Signs of neglect are everywhere: mouse droppings, belly-up cockroaches, stained carpets, cheap mattresses. This is the world of Building 18, not the kind of place where Duncan expected to recover when he was evacuated to Walter Reed Army Medical Center from Iraq last February with a broken neck and a shredded left ear, nearly dead from blood loss. But the old lodge, just outside the gates of the hospital and five miles up the road from the White House, has housed hundreds of maimed soldiers recuperating from injuries suffered in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The common perception of Walter Reed is of a surgical hospital that shines as the crown jewel of military medicine. But 5 1/2 years of sustained combat have transformed the venerable 113-acre institution into something else entirely -- a holding ground for physically and psychologically damaged outpatients. Almost 700 of them -- the majority soldiers, with some Marines -- have been released from hospital beds but still need treatment or are awaiting bureaucratic decisions before being discharged or returned to active duty. They suffer from brain injuries, severed arms and legs, organ and back damage, and various degrees of post-traumatic stress. Their legions have grown so exponentially -- they outnumber hospital patients at Walter Reed 17 to 1 -- that they take up every available bed on post and spill into dozens of nearby hotels and apartments leased by the Army. The average stay is 10 months, but some have been stuck there for as long as two years. Not all of the quarters are as bleak as Duncan's, but the despair of Building 18 symbolizes a larger problem in Walter Reed's treatment of the wounded, according to dozens of soldiers, family members, veterans aid groups, and current and former Walter Reed staff members interviewed by two Washington Post reporters, who spent more than four months visiting the outpatient world without the knowledge or permission of Walter Reed officials. Many agreed to be quoted by name; others said they feared Army retribution if they complained publicly. While the hospital is a place of scrubbed-down order and daily miracles, with medical advances saving more soldiers than ever, the outpatients in the Other Walter Reed encounter a messy bureaucratic battlefield nearly as chaotic as the real battlefields they faced overseas. On the worst days, soldiers say they feel like they are living a chapter of "Catch-22." The wounded manage other wounded. Soldiers dealing with psychological disorders of their own have been put in charge of others at risk of suicide. Disengaged clerks, unqualified platoon sergeants and overworked case managers fumble with simple needs: feeding soldiers' families who are close to poverty, replacing a uniform ripped off by medics in the desert sand or helping a brain-damaged soldier remember his next appointment. "We've done our duty. We fought the war. We came home wounded. Fine. But whoever the people are back here who are supposed to give us the easy transition should be doing it," said Marine Sgt. Ryan Groves, 26, an amputee who lived at Walter Reed for 16 months. "We don't know what to do. The people who are supposed to know don't have the answers. It's a nonstop process of stalling." Quote Max where are you, please comment on this I suspect this is a lie. If it isn't I am outraged.