Michele

Either the Hague or other UN court, or the Iraqi people should try him. The difficulty I have with the Iraqi people trying them is the stability of the country and the non-existence of any sort of established trial system. I have a fear that they will, out of revenge and not cool headed thought, stone him or, as suggested, gas him. It just doesn't seem to be a good solution at the moment. The Hague does not have the death penalty, however, and that should be an option in my opinion. I don't think the US should try him exclusively, in any event. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

I wrote out a long response, decided it wasn't going to help. You have your opinion, and your contribution is appreciated. Kris will make her mind up about what she chooses to do, knowing all the different aspects of it, and I will loan her my gear should she want it. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

Happy Birthday, Galen! I have no idea who you are, but if Stacy is willing to spring for wine, Kettle 1 and a steakhouse, you must be really really kewlio! So have a great one, and may many more come your way! Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

Congratulations to all the participants in this! Well done, and thank God. I don't know enough yet to say anything else, but I am without doubt absolutely thrilled. President will be talking in about 15 minutes. That should be quite enlightening. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

Cherubic?? Gee, thanks. I think - not positive - the plan is to go out next weekend one of the days, and let her jump my stuff once or twice while I'm there, and then also to maybe go out in the first week of the year before my Dr's appointment again on the 5th, and then after that, if the Dr. grounds me again (pretty likely), she can have the gear til either hers is ready or I'm back in the sky (prolly 4-5 weeks if the Dr. opens me again.). Either way, as long as she gets some airtime once every 30 days, she can still maintain currency, and work towards her license. It's something like that, right, Kris? Oh, and YAY Sparky! You rock! Just thought I'd add that in for good measure. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

Do you realize that your comment made me laugh so hard my face hurt? Thanks, my friend. And to the others who rushed to reassure me, thank you for that. Deucy, I didn't know I was the first - and I am glad we talked. Let me know what else I can do for you. And Kris, you're kewl. Love ya, chick. Rocky, girl, I think you are just neat. Can't wait to meet you! Yes, I am in a far better mood - seems that as I was writhing in teenaged angst and self pity, a friend of mine was trying to call me. Instead, he sent me a pm, and told me he was coming to get me. He hadn't even read this thread...I got changed and we went and ran errands, and then hopped off to PF Chang's and had appetizers for dinner. Yummmm. That kind of thing makes my heart sing. And the notes, and the pm's, and the emails - thanks, all. You changed a dour mood to a smiling girl. And I appreciate it like you all wouldn't believe. I think it's all the medications I'm on - those, and I am sooooo sick and tired of being sick and tired...next month we hit up the specialists...and see what they can do. Sigh. But there is an end to the tunnel, I know it, and with friends like you, I think I can get through it. Hugs to all! Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

I must be having a really bad day, but I can't think of a thing to say. And I should be able to...but I can't. Must be the holiday shiite, you know? Sigh... Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

Except, uh, one.... There's me. I should be getting out at least one more time this year, and you are welcome to use my gear. And, if I do have more surgery in the beginning of Jan., I will probably be down for a few weeks at least, and you can use my stuff then. Let me know...it's a Spectre 210, and likely the harness will be a bit big on you, but that isn't as bad as too small a canopy. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

Charlotte says "What's a little cystitis? He'll be just fine". Esse says: "Oh, the poor Yabu kitty. He needs is some loving, which his mommy will give just fine. And then the vet will make his bladder feel all better." Pie says: "What's systitis? huh? Mom? What's that? And does he really have to go see the docker? Ewwwwwwwwwwie, yuck. Hey, let's play with the catnip mouse. Here, you start". She's still a wee one. Hugs, Momma Muj. Yabu will be just fine - he's got such a loving mom like you, I know he will. In the meantime, hugs from me and the girls!!! And lots of purrs and meows, too. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

Oh, hell, Jeanne, I didn't even make it to the college level courses. When I was about 3, my family and I was at the beach. I wandered away, just cruising. Mom was swimming with my 5 year old brother, and Dad had fallen asleep. I guess I got bored, and went looking for things to do (since I wasn't allowed in the water without Mom or Dad.). About 2 hours later, I was discovered about 3/4 a mile away, sitting with strangers, eating their lunch. The Coast Guard and the cops were out looking for me, the thought being I'd made it into the water and drowned. Then, when I was about 9, I ended up at the 4th of July down at the beach. Huge crowds, lots of noise and things to catch my attention. Again, I got separated, and found a cop. He asked me if I was lost, and I replied no, but my family is. I never made it to "follow the rules, don't be aggressive, don't ever claim your role in the world". Never did. I mean, I picked up skydiving at 36. And got my blackbelt at 33. That's kinda odd in itself. But it still is difficult, you know? Still hard being the one consistently passed over for the hottie, the cutie, the big boobed, slender waisted girly girl...still hard spending the holidays alone for yet another year. Still hard not being able to relax and let someone else be the "problem solver, the strong one, the safety zone". I love my cats, but they just don't do it for me. Jack my friend, you have no idea how much your post meant to me. Thanks from the bottom of my heart. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

No, no...you've got it wrong. It's somehow connected to Halliburton, the company Cheney ran. If only I knew how the connections went, I am sure it could be connected to the TriLateral Commission, the Holy See, and the Endtimes forcast by both the Bible and Mother Shipton. And of course, the Cabalists, as well. Ciels Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

Considering I am not in any way, shape or form a trophy, an ornament, or even eye candy of the cheapest sort, I do have to agree. I asked my broker one day why no-one ever asked me out...it was a toss away question, not really expecting an answer. But Denis, true to form, tried his very best to fix the problem, by suggesting I stop jumping, because that emasculates non-jumping men. You coulda knocked me over. He further explained his position by stating that "most men want to be able to protect their woman, and they can't when they are falling from a plane...". I nearly barfed. But he's right, in a sense...which saddens me. The lack of dates from men who jump is easily explained: I am not seen as "datable". So the comment above about getting fought over is not true for all women. I am a perfect example of that. Not even a little argument. And that, when I think about it, saddens me, too. For all the hook-ups which happen, I'm left standing there, saying "good job", and coming home to a cold house. And I have absolutely no idea why I am saying all this, other than it's the holidays, I'm alone, I'm lonely, and this is getting really old really fast. Sigh. O.K., enough of the fucking pity party. Just thought I'd share a bit here from a different, non-hottie perspective. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

LOL, it's safe. It's not like the oldie photos, or the fatty photos. Just a pix of what happens to a woman's breasts during freefall. I suggest you take a look - might make you a little less anxious to do a nekkie jump! Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

Me: Hey, Rocky? here's the reason I don't nekkie jump (hands off picture) Rocky: Oh, man. Doesn't that hurt? Oh man. Damn. Oh geez. Shit. That must hurt. Does it hurt? Me: Rocky, that's NOT me. Rocky: Oh, man. Hey, MARK! C'mere, look at this!! Rocky used to be a boxer. Thanks again for the help, Brains. And while I appreciate the offer of a nekkie tandem, I shall turn that down for the nonce, as well. Ciels- MIchele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

No, Kallend, Nekkie CReW still wouldn't address my landing issues...rocks in unacceptable places, don'tcha know.... Um, my boss is right behind me, so I am getting outta here...the photo just printed...will take it to my colleague. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

Brains, you rock. Thanks sooooooooo much!!! That's it exactly!!!!! Hee hee, that's getting printed and handed to him at the tree trimming party in about 2 hours. Thanks a bunch!! Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

So, there's this colleague at work, who thinks I should skydive nekkie. HAH. Besides not having the figure for it, I certainly can't land well enough to prevent any, ah, issues from occurring... I explained to him what freefall does to the female form. About how breasts tend to invert, becoming bowls with raisins at the bottom. He doesn't believe me. There was a photo here of what happens...can someone dig it up for me? I can't find it, despite searching for it. I just wanna prove it's not nearly as "pretty" as he thinks it is. And he's considering doing a tandem, too, so this should help. Thanks in advance... Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

Wow. I wonder what his brother in law (who posts here) thinks. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

Jeanne, you make a few good points. I don't care how many jumps a person has...if they've come to the sky, seen our playground, and breathed that air, then yes, to me they are part of the family and no longer a whuffo. Keep in mind I say this with all of 80 jumps. There are others, however, who say that anyone with less than 10 years in the sport is a tourist. I can't speak to that, because I don't have ten years in the sport, but I also think they have a perspective on things that I don't. I also don't give a flying rat's ass who sleeps with whom, what hole does what, and where it happens. I DO object, frankly, to someone coming on here and, imho, spamming the forums with posts about getting flack for posting about their sexuality. No less than 46 posts, from midnight until 2:30ish today, most of them about sex or sexuality or sexual partners. I think I counted 4 or 5 which didn't have anything to do with sex....in her first post she says "If it wasn't for the fact that I love sex so much[.][sic] This would be the best thing that happened in my life". Now, while I agree that's a mighty fine attitude to have as a skydiver, it still is bothersome because of the sheer numbers in such a short amount of time. Besides....if I were to post I've gotten flack, there would be lots of folks who would want to assist me in handling it. As a matter of fact, I have had that happen, and, I didn't make 46 posts about it, simply dealt with it. I did post, but once or twice, and then let it blow over. And it was about jumping, not sex. If she really has gotten flack about it, then I really am sorry. But still, I really can't see the need to spend hours and hours perseverating on something she claims she doesn't want attention for, and have that be the only thing she's posted about (aside from a brief comment about her skydive in the Intro forum, and the exception of the 4-5 I mentioned above). But maybe that's 38 talking to 18's behavior. There is not one question, not one thought, not one comment about skydiving, without sex in it...and that is, personally, what I find "trollish" when added to the length of time posting and number of posts. If she were talking about "straight sex", I'd still have difficulty with it - it isn't the sexuality, it's the perseverence of the topic which is bothersome. That is my opinion. And no, I shall not be opening this thread again. Flame if you will, but don't bother doing it publicly, 'cause I won't see it. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

Ohhhhhhhhhhh, well then! Errr, ah, well.....gee, lookit the time. Gotta run! Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

Daizey, darling, how hard it must be for you. Rest secure knowing that you did everything you could do, and that you made the right decisions. I've heard your message. I don't drink and drive, and the above is only one of the reasons that decision was made many years ago. Love you, girl. It's hard, but you did all that you could; we're here for you. Let us know what you need. And in the mean time, I am sending you a whole lot of vibes, and lots of hugs, and some serious prayers your way. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

See, everyone. Voicing your opinions and concern, without attack and with clarity and purpose, can really make a difference in how things are done. Huge kudos to you, Keith. I suspect I've just found my next "crush" - a man who can get things done! How very rare is that? (actually, I just like your arms ). I didn't even send my email, altho that was on my things to do list tonight. Now I can go have coffee with Racenic without remorse! If I ever got any money, I'd likely get the sterling ring...so that's how I voted. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

Me too. And phew for me, as well. Especially since I've heard rumors that S&G are getting back together for either another album or a bit of a tour. Blue skies, other Paul. Thanks for your dedication and service! Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~

HEY! RENEE!!!! Happy birthday, darling one. May you have many more, all of them happy, safe, and secure. YOU RAWK!!! Have a good one! Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~