rhino

Join the club.......

He doesn't diserve any more credit than every other soldier that has given his or her life... I admire his sacrifice the same way I admire every other soldiers.. Rhino

lol

Their is nothing grey about the life that was created.. Nothing grey about killing an innocent child....

That is only possible because you weren't aborted..

>Life in the fast lane! > > > > An amazing story of what might have turned into a massacre. > > Note the use by the enemy of an ambulance as a ruse. > > > > > > > > Stranded Marines Fight to Last Bullets > > by James Hider, in Fallujah > > > > The 15 Marines were trapped in a house, surrounded by hundreds of Iraqis > > armed with rocket-propelled grenades and assault rifles, their armored > > vehicle in flames on the street outside. Each man was down to his last >two > > magazines. > > > > "It was in my head, we just got to go. Whoever makes it back, makes it > > back, those who fall, fall," said Staff Sergeant Ismail Sagredo, sitting >in > > the relative safety of Bravo Company's forward base yesterday, as >mortars > > and machinegun fire sounded a few streets away. > > > > "That was the decision I'd have had to make, and I'm glad I didn't have >to > > do it." > > > > It was one of the most dramatic actions of the war. > > > > Sergeant Sagredo, 35, had been in one of two Amphibious Assault Vehicles > > running out from the Marines' frontline close to the centre of Fallujah, > > trying to trap insurgents who had ambushed a supply vehicle. But as >they > > headed down the narrow, parallel streets of Fallujah, where Sunni >tribesmen > > have battled the Marines for more than a week, their vehicle came under >fire > > from rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs), the guerrillas' weapon of choice. > > Unable to turn the large vehicle around, the squad charged their >attackers, > > but lost contact when they hit a bend in the road. They were driving >into > > unknown territory. Then they turned another corner and saw hundreds of > > guerrillas. > > > > "I've never seen so many RPGs. A lot of them were propped up against >the > > walls with extra rounds," said the sergeant. The Iraqis, not expecting >a > > lone American vehicle so far behind their lines, ran frantically for >their > > weapons as the Marines opened up with M16 rifles and machineguns. > > > > Rockets started smashing into their vehicle. One pierced the armor at >the > > front, taking a large chunk out of the leg of Lieutenant Christopher >Ayres, > > the officer in command. The rocket did not explode, but hit the engine, > > setting it ablaze. Still under intense fire, the driver swerved south >along > > a route known to the Marines as "Sh--head Alley", desperate to find a > > turning to the east, towards their own lines. The gunner was dead from > > enemy fire, and several men had been knocked down by the continuing >rounds > > of missiles. > > > > The blaze was spreading toward the stockpiles of grenades when the >engine > > gave out completely. With the engine dead, the rear gate would not >open. > > The men had to climb out of the hatch one by one, still taking >small-arms > > fire. Luckily for them, their dash down the gauntlet of Sh--head Alley >had > > left their attackers - up to 600 of them - behind. But only for a while. > > "When we stepped out I was relieved. At least I wasn't going to burn," >said > > Lance Corporal Abraham McCarver, a machinegunner. > > > > The men had to help Lieutenant Ayres, who was crawling blindly toward >the > > fire. Sergeant Sagredo and Corporal McCarver pulled him, but his webbing > > caught on a rack. > > > > They were still taking fire, conscious that the vehicle could explode at >any > > moment. Then the webbing ripped, and they carried the wounded officer to >a > > nearby house, kicking down the door. > > > > The Marines took up firing positions on the roof as more than 150 Iraqi > > gunmen converged on the small house. > > > > "All the Iraqis surged south to join the festivities," Sergeant Sagredo > > said. He now found himself in charge of an impossible situation >reminiscent > > of scenes in Black Hawk Down, the film of a doomed US raid in Somalia >that > > the sergeant had seen back home in America. > > > > "It did remind me of that soldier being dragged through the streets back > > then," he said, aware that a similarly gruesome scene had involved four >US > > contractors just streets away, the trigger for the Marines' invasion of > > Fallujah. > > > > Ironically, Bravo Company's call-sign is Blackhawk. The Marines could >hear > > the Iraqi fighters shouting outside, could see their feet shadowed under >the > > front gate. "I opened a window because I heard voices and I thought it >was > > Americans," said Corporal Koreyan Calloway. "There was a guy in a >headscarf > > with an AK47 standing there looking at me, so I shot him." > > > > The attackers were darting down narrow alleyways beside the house, and > > lobbing grenades from neighboring rooftops. > > > > "They were running across our line of fire like we weren't even shooting >at > > them," the corporal said. "It was just like a range, we were just >shooting > > them down," said Corporal Jacob Palofax. > > > > In the midst of the firefight, with the armored vehicle's munitions >blowing > > up, an Iraqi ambulance pulled up. The Marines thought they were being > > rescued. > > Instead, 15 men with RPGs jumped out and started firing. > > > > The Americans were almost out of bullets. An Iraqi round hit a kitchen >pipe > > and gas started whistling out as RPGs slammed into the building. A > > guerrilla burst through the gate with an RPG and was shot dead. Another > > tried to follow and was wounded. "Then the men started shouting that >they > > could hear tanks. The first one went past, then the second," Sergeant > > Sagredo said. > > > > Horrified that the rescuers would miss him, Sergeant Sagredo radioed to >tell > > them to back up. They did. A rifle muzzle appeared through the gate, and > > Captain Jason Smith of the 5th Marine Regiment came through shouting: > > "Marines, Marines, friendlies!" > > > > It took an hour for the tanks to hook up with the burnt-out vehicle, but > > they were determined not to leave a dead Marine behind inside it. >Sergeant > > Sagredo does not want a medal for saving his men. "A decoration would >only > > remind me of what happened. This is something I want to forget. > > Unfortunately, if it doesn't affect me now, I know it will haunt me >later."

The unborn children don't get to vote.. Why should you?

Yet you so easily agree to the right to take another human beings life because it hasn't been born yet?????????? You agree to the right to a woman to make that decision.. But don't agree that the unborn baby has a right to a life too???

They had the freedom not to have sex to begin with in most cases. It isn't YOUR morality.. It's MORALITY period.. As I said.. God gave us free will. You choose to support a woman's right to kill an innocent life I choose not to. In everything you say.. You never once take into account the unborn child's right to live.. Personal attack deleted.

He isn't judging anyone? What in the hell are you talking about?

Sadly, they are

I am also very sorry for what happened to your cousin... Food for thought.. My mother had my sister when she was 14,, She had me when she was 19.. Am I wrong or didn't people have babies routinely around age 12-14 back in the day?

Those embryo's have little toes and fingers.. Since when does size matter?

That is once again your opinion. They are like assholes. We all have them. Some smell more than others.. lol

That is bullshit.. Free Will.. Ain't it a bitch..

You mean kill an innocent child don't you? What is being proposed is RESPONSIBILITY. Being RESPONSIBLE FOR A HUMAN LIFE YOU CREATED.

TELL IT GIRL!!

WHAT? The comparison of a fetus to an unborn child vs disabled instead of not able to walk is LIGHT YEARS apart!!! We are talking LIFE here Bill.. Not a disability.... omg

Why not? Laws are for that purpose. Some people think murder should be legal. Luckily the laws say otherwise. Laws force people that can't make "ok" decisions to do so. If not they pay the consequences.

A valid point..

That would only be the case if I cared what someone thought of me? And I don't.. That being said... I wouldn't tend to use the word fetus. I would use the term unborn child. or baby. I think the term fetus, where human's are concerned is a cop out of responsibility. I believe throwing the term fetus around is disrespectful. Disrespectful to the very child tht is being referred to as a thing.. or an IT.

So you are saying that the BABY doesn't have any rights and that the mother can play judge, jury and executioner.. I see your stance very well. I disagree.. Make abortion illegal and people will start to be MUCH MORE CAREFUL.....

Stubborness on fire.. She made the best choice for the child. It ended up being a wonderful choice for her as well.. SHE DID WHAT WAS IN THE CHILD'S BEST INTEREST. SHE PUT THE CHILD FIRST.. She did exactly what I would hope my own children would do in the same position. The right thing. Rhino

As long as people have varying opinions I don't believe a proper definition exists.