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Associated Press article featuring a non-partisan news item, not an opinion piece. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hundreds-of-cops-kicked-off-force-for-committing-sex-crimes_5636133ae4b063179912afba

Trip somebody down stairs, or push them off a roof, or throw them to the floor or against a wall. A tremendous amount of physical damage and pain can be received without ever having to be hit. Ask anybody who was raised for a time in violent foster-care. ETA: I have a number of friends who serve as police. A few years back one of them told me that they have ways of inflicting punishment without leaving any physical evidence. He described how and where he and his chums rendered this edification - most often behind the solid steel doors in the local lockup. He and I aren't friends anymore.

I wrote/asked: As far as her hitting the officer... I'm 60, fighting medical issues, weaker than shit, and those blows from her would hardly have bothered me. Good lord, if that is justification for throwing a girl across a room, well, I have nothing to say.

For skycop or any other police officer here - The policeman arrested the girl. What law would she have broken? After she refused to move, I'm guessing he would use something like 'refusing a lawful order'. When he got physical and she didn't acquiesce, I guess he could use 'resisting'. But my question goes to the actions prior. On what grounds, federal, state, or municipal, does he even attend this incident? Is 'disobeying the teacher' a felony? Thanks.

MOST OF CANADA remembers that, Paul.

Just the last scenes of it. A lot of interviews with the people involved (including Amb. Taylor) were aired when the movie was released, and that's what they said. It was really chilling at the end of the movie though (during the credits -- no spoilers) when they put screen shots from the movie side-by-side with photos from the event. Absolutely terrifying and horrific. ...which makes Amb. Taylor's actions all the more impressive and appreciated. Just because you're careful (or paranoid), doesn't mean they aren't out to get you! He had no way of knowing that his residence wasn't about to be overtaken, and had to make life-or-death decisions every step of the way. IMHO, your interpretation of the actual event(s) is mostly accurate. In Canada, we were a bit put-off by the movies intimation that the CIA was primarily responsible for both the initiative and the outcome. In a CNN interview, former U.S. president Jimmy Carter addressed the controversy: "90% of the contributions to the ideas and the consummation of the plan was Canadian. And the movie gives almost full credit to the American CIA. And with that exception, the movie is very good. But Ben Affleck's character in the film was... only in Tehran a day and a half. And the main hero, in my opinion, was Ken Taylor, who was the Canadian ambassador who orchestrated the entire process." Taylor noted, "In reality, Canada was responsible for the six and the CIA was a junior partner. But I realize this is a movie and you have to keep the audience on the edge of their seats." In the film, Taylor is shown threatening to close the Canadian embassy. This did not happen and the Canadians never considered abandoning the six Americans who had taken refuge under their protection. source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argo_%282012_film%29#Canadian_versus_CIA_roles Further to that, the film also takes liberties with the roles of the Kiwi & Brit diplomatic missions. Sir John Graham, the then-British ambassador to Iran, said, "My immediate reaction on hearing about this was one of outrage. I have since simmered down, but am still very distressed that the film-makers should have got it so wrong. My concern is that the inaccurate account should not enter the mythology of the events in Tehran in November 1979." source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argo_%282012_film%29#British_and_New_Zealand_roles But hey. It scored at the box-office and with the little gold statues, so it's all good.

My taste always ran more towards the green lady from the movie "Paul".

Sadly, Affleck's movie "Argo", was typical Hollywood nonsense. "Thirty-five years ago, in early 1980, the Canadian flag snapped high in the wind in hundreds of American cities. Talk-show callers wept on air in gratitude to Canadians. Billboards dotted the countryside with “Thank you, Canada” writ large." source: http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/ken-taylor-the-right-man-in-the-wrong-place-at-the-right-time Thank you, Mr. Taylor. You made us feel proud. Quietly proud. As always.

Are you talking about the Obama administration's FBI investigation? The first sentence in the item linked: "Another Republican lawmaker says the House Select Committee on Benghazi is meant to go after former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton."

Check your private messages...

Before I pass this on to a couple of female friends, one question: do they have their own transportation, and if not, where is the area their "local" activity/interest is centered? (ie: UBC, WestEnd, Burnaby, Grouse Mtn, etc)

I hired people when I needed more staff. I laid people off when there was insufficient demand. "More (or less) profits" had absolutely no relationship to my staffing requirements. That included a department that always operated at a dead-loss, but was critical to other departments on-going operations. I wasn't a brilliant businessperson but I did quite alright, thank you. And I don't think I'm particularly unique. As a business owner I didn't like interference (increased taxes, more stringent regulations, etc) any more than the next guy. But none of that affected my staffing levels. Mature businesses do not increase staffing. Obsolete manufacturers do not increase staffing. Technologies in decline do not increase staffing. Noncompetitive company's do not increase staffing. Worshiping the altar of "Increased Profits" as the generic Savior of national unemployment only supports hedge-fund managers and corporate raiders. It does nothing for the working-stiff looking for a job. Just my $0.02 (0.03 CDN) John

If they do in fact (as opposed to speculative "what if") violate the constitution - isn't that what impeachment in your system is about?

Did you notice the graph at the bottom from responses to the US Dept. of Justice police survey? My quick take on that is that a surprising percentage of police respondents don't trust their system for reporting or disciplining abuse. screen-grab attached

Doesn't the IRS collect corporate taxes on revenues/profits generated within the US, even if by foreign or multi-national corporations?

From the sites statistics: Statistics Total posts 1138 • Total topics 491 • Total members 85 • Administrator Total posts: 933 | (81.99% of all posts / 0.73 posts per day) Pretty small membership. And the administrator seems to have a strong personal agenda whereby he has the lions-share of posts. Which supports my earlier post (you may have missed it): I think all can agree that every western democracy has some people in law enforcement who are bad at their jobs, or even bullies. I think we could also agree that fortunately they are still in the minority of the total force. In general terms we don’t fear our police in Canada. I’m equally sure the Brits, Germans, Dutch, Kiwi’s, Swedes, et al do not generally fear their police forces. ref: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4757816#4757816

Bear with me – first an analogy. On my original home DZ (small single 182 operation) as time passed, my best friend and I became (courtesy of attrition) the two most senior and experienced people. One day, the winds were squirrely and he and I stood in the landing area, checking the windsocks and anemometer. For over two minutes we discussed back and forth if we should ground the students, each seeking the opinion of the other. Suddenly, he remarked that if we were standing there having the lengthy discussion, that fact alone indicated it was problematic enough to make the decision really easy. I think all can agree that every western democracy has some people in law enforcement who are bad at their jobs, or even bullies. I think we could also agree that fortunately they are still in the minority of the total force. In general terms we don’t fear our police in Canada. I’m equally sure the Brits, Germans, Dutch, Kiwi’s, Swedes, et al do not generally fear their police forces. The fact that this forum continually demonstrates the very real concerns among average American citizens about their various enforcement agencies is akin to my analogy. If you are repeatedly debating it… it IS a problem. A much broader problem apparently than some here would understand.

Ken, You'll be hard-pressed to find a more patriotic Canadian than me, but I think it is disingenuous to criticize another country for their policies towards refugees without at least acknowledging our own countries past transgressions. The Komagata Maru incident involved a Japanese steamship, Komagata Maru, that sailed from Hong Kong, Shanghai, China to Yokohama, Japan and then to Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, in 1914, carrying 376 passengers from Punjab, British India. Of them 24 were admitted to Canada, but the 352 other passengers were not allowed to land in Canada, and the ship was forced to return to India. The passengers consisted of 340 Sikhs, 24 Muslims, and 12 Hindus, all British subjects. This was one of several incidents in the history of early 20th century involving exclusion laws in both Canada and the United States designed to keep out immigrants of only Asian origin. source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komagata_Maru_incident Between 1930 and 1939, Canada rejected almost all Jewish refugees from Nazi Europe, taking in only 4,000 of the 800,000 Jews looking for refuge. MS St. Louis sailed from Hamburg in May 1939, carrying 937 Jewish refugees seeking asylum from Nazi persecution. The destination was Cuba, but officials in Havana cancelled Jewish passengers' visas. Jewish immigration was strictly limited in North America, so the passengers were denied entrance to Canada and the United States. source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Canada And currently, the present government of Canada has been downright chickenshit in response to the Syrian crisis. If we, as a nation are so damned afraid of ISIS/ISIL operatives hiding amongst the refugees, we could take a lesson from General Rick Hillier, Chief of Defence Staff, (ret). ... this time the general wasn’t taking about taking lives but saving them, albeit with the same, can-do determination he tried to bring to the war against the Taliban a decade earlier. And this time he was sounding very Canadian indeed. source: http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/montreal-the-moment/gen-hilliers-politically-incorrect-approach-to-the-refugee-crisis Hillier added that Canada is capable of bringing in 50,000 refugees and “responsibly” screening them for any security risks. He added, “We can stand tall during this dark chapter in Eastern Europe and the Middle East, and really do something that will make the world notice Canada, and make Canadians proud of what they can do… and I think we need to step up". source: http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/rick-hillier-on-help-for-refugees-i-think-we-need-to-do-it-in-a-big-way-1.2556849 If Canada agreed to take in orphaned children, women who are on their own, single-parent families, or families in general, it would be easy to find 50,000 people who need to be relocated and who present no security threat, said Mr. Hillier * source: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/army-rcmp-can-help-resettle-50000-refugees-hillier-says/article26348108/ * That paragraph I intentionally included to address the xenophobes of all nationalities who participate in this forum and cry wolf at the very thought of Mooslims invading the Christan World. (sarcasm fully intended) Have we already forgotten the lessons of and the charity extended towards the Vietnamese boat-people in the 1970's. I am ashamed of my countries current reticence. John

It's sad how that initial international good-will has, generally speaking, been thrown to the wolves since the thickening of that border that began with the continued incorrect belief that the hijackers entered through Canada.

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Perhaps he was just raised to behave like a gentleman. There are some of us still out there...

You've claimed you occasionally post contrarian statements to elicit reactions. Congratulations. This one one made me wretch. And question why I would continue to even give a damn about some members of a (questionably) enlightened society.

Some citizens of the US would consider that political-bent to be mainstream Canadian anyway. Some of us up here are holding out hope for Mr. Cruz to win. After all, we think it would be way cool to have one of us living in the house we burned down.

WHAT A Canadian suggest that guns might be an answer to a problem??? You should apologize for that right now eh. With all the time you've enjoyed in our lovely land, you of all people are aware that our real weapons are our biting, topical and sardonic wit as well as our disarmingly polite and charming demeanor. Invaders would die of diabetic shock within weeks of first exposure to our syrupy sweetness. Scratch that. They'd get rather ill first but we would take care of them with our national healthcare insurance system. In their gratitude, they would simply depart after renaming only a few Canadian mountains.