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Wow, thanks for that vivid and insightful explanation of your position So why shouldn't someone be legally allowed to own animals (or be near them) if they're an animal abuser? What could justify such a huge restriction on a person's rights if the animals don't have any rights to protect? And how would society deal with animal abusers without the law doing it? And seriously, are you just posting drunk all the time, 'cos really this is starting to feel like one of those round in circles, 10 beers deep, forget your train of thought so just restate your initial position more forcefully kinda arguments... Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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More preschoolers shot per year than cops on duty
jakee replied to funjumper101's topic in Speakers Corner
You may have converted, but it's to a side all of your own. No-one here believes that shit, and such gross exaggeration and distortion of the opposing position is, again, why you will only push people further and further away from seeing the merits of your argument My argument is your argument brother. United we stand. I believe all the shit you've said and support you 100% bro. Good. So you've had a second conversion and you don't believe all the ridiculous shit that you just said in posts #33 and #34? Do you want to have an ideagasm? -
How? You're proposing a restraining order from animals? How would that work? And what would happen to someone who breached it if you can't prosecute them? No, not correct. Again, when people say "animals have rights" they don't mean* "animals have all the same rights as humans". * A very few people do, but they are far from the norm. Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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More preschoolers shot per year than cops on duty
jakee replied to funjumper101's topic in Speakers Corner
You may have converted, but it's to a side all of your own. No-one here believes that shit, and such gross exaggeration and distortion of the opposing position is, again, why you will only push people further and further away from seeing the merits of your argument Do you want to have an ideagasm? -
More preschoolers shot per year than cops on duty
jakee replied to funjumper101's topic in Speakers Corner
I see you're still busy, uhh, not exaggerating things... Do you want to have an ideagasm? -
Exactly, you've said nothing about legality, which is why you haven't yet answered the question. Which was, in case you've forgotten "So, legally you think people should be allowed to buy a kitten at a pet store and torture it to death?" Simple yes or no question. Sure, they're sick. But should they be prosecuted? Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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Your post 169 was about morality. Dan's question is about legality. It was a simple yes or no question, why don't you answer it? Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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More preschoolers shot per year than cops on duty
jakee replied to funjumper101's topic in Speakers Corner
Yes it is. Saying that "Cops who wait for you to finish your movement and visually process what is in your hand before making a decision to act and then acting on said decision don't tend to live very long" is an outrageous exaggeration. Cops, no matter what they do or don't do, tend to live until they leave the force and then live some more after that. Do you want to have an ideagasm? -
Yes, I know that's what you think, but on the basis of that story it's not what you can say the courts support you on. It's not you and the courts. It's you. Period. Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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Me and the courts http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/05/nyregion/chimps-dont-have-same-rights-as-humans-court-says.html?_r=0 Not the same rights is not the same as no rights. Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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Of course they do. Don't be silly. I'm afraid he's right on this one - as was recently clarified by Royal edict animals don't have rights, because they don't pay taxes and haven't earned them. (Though since that comes from a woman who was born into one family of hereditary wealth and privilege, married into a bigger one and lived rent free in a state mansion for decades you have to wonder how her rights were earned!) Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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More preschoolers shot per year than cops on duty
jakee replied to funjumper101's topic in Speakers Corner
Yeah they do. Again - people will listen to you more if you use less outrageous exaggerations. Even the worst cops with the slowest reactions who couldn't hit the side of a barn from the inside tend to live as long as everybody else. Right, 'cos that's a realistic solution. (Especially when there are several police officers surrounding one guy all shouting different commands at the same time we're blaming the guy who sometimes hasn't even done anything wrong for being flustered, panicked and not doing exactly what the cops want, straight away?) Do you want to have an ideagasm? -
You need to rethink your facts. Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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Ah yes, The good old Constitution of Independence... Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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The problem with that sort of statement is that it carries the implication that only rights enumerated in the Constitution should be protected and if the government is unjustly ruining people's lives for any other reason it doesn't matter. Which I think is kind of backwards. Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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That's exactly what you said. Post #18, in response to BV: "So you adamantly defend that if you BEAT SOMEONE TO DEATH it is no big deal". So either you gotta stop bitching about the potential punishments for transporting your guns, or you admit that you were talking shit earlier in the thread. Right, that's a valid viewpoint. I just can't for the life of me understand why you have to bury it beneath such ridiculous hyperbolic bullshit as calling 25 years in prison "no big deal" or claiming that anyone who isn't 100% on your side doesn't care about beating kids to death. That's your problem right now. You're turning everything up to 11 and hiding your real position under layers and layers of hysteria. Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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You said that the consequences for a class B felony were "No big deal" and the consequences for a class B felony include everything that you just said. So again, if the worst possible penalty for transporting your firearms illegally in NY is no big deal, why are you still bitching about it? Yeah, sure, "slightly less severe" was the phrasing that you were using up until now Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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So why do you keep talking like you were in danger? Ever since your first post on the subject you have sent confusing messages about what is and is not breaking the law. How so? Does the federal law specify non-stop transit? (And what about your "life in prison vs no big deal" rubbish? Any response to that?) Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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Sounds just like the war on drugs. Except with the war on drugs it isn't hypothetical. Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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Pretending? You brought them both into the conversation, I'm just responding to your scenario. And hang on a minute - you think with you "life in prison vs no big deal" nonsense that you aren't pretending? Wow. I thought you knew you were talking shit See, clearly and by your own admission that's not the case. You went to New York and broke their gun laws. Why are you pretending that isn't true? Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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No, he'd have been convicted of possessing illegal firearms. Please, do quote anything that I've said that would convey that impression. (I won't hold my breath though, even if it was the case you'd be too lazy to find it.) Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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Well, at least you acknowledge the other two. It's a start, I guess. Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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Where did he defend that at all? In fact, why would he defend something that is completely untrue? You didn't serve any prison time for breaking the law and they're facing up to 25 years. But please, do continue to bitch and whine about how the world is so unfair because you're out $900 Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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I don't believe anyone including the Gov. feels that way. Because, again, you are under the illusion that beating someone to death carries the penalty of a small fine? Come on. Given that you're capable of writing legible sentences I have to believe you're smarter than that Yeah, that's a good way to get your point across. Did you find that technique in "How to win friends and influence people"? Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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You think they're going to be facing a lesser penalty than $870 and 20 months without firearms? I'd be very, very surprised! Do you want to have an ideagasm?