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The majority of the aforementioned believe in God. They also believe they are powerful enough to beat Him. Satan, the Antichrist, demons and fallen angels wouldn't believe in god anymore than you or I believe in our parents. Rather, we know them. I can pretty much guarantee that if we go down this road you will end up claiming that absolute knowledge is antithetical to belief, so lets just cut out that bit and agree that talking about demons and talking about people is not the same thing. You believe in God but claim there is no spiritual value in doing good works. Whose side do you think you're on? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

So again, you need to answer the question, what is 'good' Tho we don't, and can never know his motives, we as a society will herald him a hero, and that's fine, I get it. Has he done a good thing? Is it good that a child is kept alive? Is it good that the parents can see their baby grow up instead of burying it? Haha Ok, posit a situation where someone's life is saved when the danger does not come from an evil human source. Like, say, a person who dies trying to save others from a non-arson related California wildfire? Is that 'good'? A nurse or doctor who goes to an area affected by a virulent disease outbreak and in the process is infected and dies. Was that not 'good'? OK, so your direct answer to my direct question is that there is no such thing as a good deed, either in action or in outcome. So, once again, in what way does god care what you do if nothing you can do is good? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Is that a thing? Does that really happen? Of course it happens. The specific scenario is to make it easier to picture, but consider the general principle - are you seriously doubting that anyone who isn't a saved christian has ever sacrificed their life to save a stranger? Is that the depth you have to stoop to in order to try and support your argument? How do you? You said that the motive of that person was completely self serving. You need to explain how the sacrifice of someone's entire and only existence can be a selfish act. So again, you need to answer the question, what is 'good'? If good deeds aren't 'good', even to the point where sacrificing your life to save someone else isn't 'good', then what is? If making other people happy with that sacrifice isn't 'good', then what is? If there is no action, no outcome, no intention possible that can ever be seen as objectively 'good', then what is it? Since you've denied any moral basis to appeal with what do you have left to offer except the self serving aspect of 'belief leads to reward'? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Right, not every believer is going to be disciplined to the point of questioning their faith, but we know that every believer will be chastened. There is always room for improvement. But again, you know that there are people who believe in Jesus, do horrible things, and are totally happy. In what meaningful way are they 'chastened' compared to someone who's driven to utter despair? It still sounds like wildly dfferent treatment for different people for no particular reason. I misspoke. I struggle to see how any genuine christian can claim that joining the military is right. I don't struggle with people saying one thing and doing another. That's just part of how our brains are wired, unfortunately. But he does know it, and he will be rewarded regardless - so ultimately it is self serving. Even if a believer didn't think he'd be rewarded for doing something good, he'll think he's going to heaven for eternity so he's never really sacrificing anything. Now, how come only the saved christian can suppress his sinful nature but the un-believer can't if the result is the same action and the sam benefit for other people? That's utter unadulterated tautological bullshit. Take the case of a person who, let's say, dies shielding someone else's baby in one of your mass shootings. You're saying that if it's an un-believer who gave up what he thinks is his one and only existence on this earth, or any other plane of reality, that's a self serving act that is unworty of reward? But if it's a saved Christian who's convinced he's going to heaven anyway, and who thinks doing good works will make heaven even better for him, that makes it a selfless act that is worth rewarding? That's a despicable value system, frankly. And really does sound like just another way of saying that god is an amoral master who absolutely does not care what people do to each other. Is the mother from the above example any less happy if a non-christian saves her baby than if a christian does it? Any less grateful? Of course not. So, you've just conclusively demonstrated that you don't think 'good' has anything whatsoever to do with what you do to other people or how you make them feel. So what is 'good'? And yet it's all you guys ever talk about. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

I'm sure they can do that. But equally they can not do that, and carry on both being horrible and believing in Jesus quite happily. Why does God only care what some people do? I don't buy that. Even the scripture I quoted explicitly states that he "chastens everyone he accepts as his son." So you want to restate what you said as 'It demonstrates how a Christian will always come to a point where their sin put's them in an utter state of despair, guilt and/or confusion among other things and cause them to question "if they genuinely believe."' Because you know that's not true. You know there are people who genuinely believe in god, yet keep doing horrible things and are quite happy with how their life is going. Unless you think it's possible for someone to genuinely believe they believe, but not really believe? But if that's possible, the whole salvation thing just becomes a gamble anyway. Well now you've got the whole thing backwards. You're saying the saved christian can be rewarded for doing good deeds - therefore the saved Christians good deeds are self serving, whther he wants it to be or not. But if the unsaved non-christian cannot be rewarded for his good deeds then he is being truly selfless. So hoestly, you've just said it again - God doesn't care if you do anything good. If you don't believe, then it doesn't mean anything because you're not saved, if you do believe then it doesn't mean anything because it's ultimately a self serving act and the believer knows that. So what difference does it make? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

This is the true definition of a "shit-show." Makes one wonder a) how asleep at the wheel was Sessions, and 2) Is Trump really unjustified in his "firing" policy. Makes me wonder what he finds out behind the scenes that we don't know about. Hang on - you're saying that Trump found out that a criminal was working as Sessions' CoS and was so concerned about it that he fired Sessions and promoted the criminal? No. Not at all. Feel free to re-read my post. I re-read it, and it still sounds like that's what you said. Feel free to clarify your statement if you want to be understood. Again, if it reflects so badly on Sessions that Whitaker was simply working in the State Department, why does it reflect well on Trump that he decided to promote him to acting AG? Something which, as pointed out above, you were wrong about being the normal process. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Don't you & several others on here put all white people in the same bucket (as in the Caucasian race). Are you for real? Show some examples. Why is that a bad thing? You didn't give a single example except for restrooms. Do restrooms really bother you that much? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

What is it with you pretending to be an idiot today? The Brits who think the US goes way overboard on xenophobic immigrant hating? Probably the same Brits who oppose Brexit, and the same Brits who want to keep freedom of movement throughout the EU, including the freedom of the Poles and Romanians to come and live here if they want to. Like, isn't it amazing how the populations of any given country or culture aren't big homogenous blobs of groupthink? Blowing your mind, right? Yet you want to cry about being a victim of illegal immigration. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Jesus Christ you're on a roll today You think everyone below the Rio Grande is the same? You think every culture across 20 countries and 8 million square miles is the same culture? You think because they all look the same to you that they all look, sound and think the same to each other? Are all white people the same to you? No matter what country they come from, no matter what language they speak, do you treat them all the same as your white american neighbours because they're also white? In the UK (a white country) we have a lot of economic migration from places like Poland, Lithuania, Romania etc. These migrants are also white. Does it amaze you that white British people hate on these white migrants? What do you call it when that happens? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

This is the true definition of a "shit-show." Makes one wonder a) how asleep at the wheel was Sessions, and 2) Is Trump really unjustified in his "firing" policy. Makes me wonder what he finds out behind the scenes that we don't know about. Hang on - you're saying that Trump found out that a criminal was working as Sessions' CoS and was so concerned about it that he fired Sessions and promoted the criminal? Look, I know that you're by no means a pure partisan, but sometimes you do let your political bias tie you in knots... Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Which is 100% irrelevant to what we're talking about. No, It demonstrates how a Christian can come to a point where their sin put's them in an utter state of despair, guilt and/or confusion among other things and cause them to question "if they genuinely believe." These are often considered signs of God's discipline. I'm sure they can do that. But equally they can not do that, and carry on both being horrible and believing in Jesus quite happily. Why does God only care what some people do? Yes, exactly - which means god doesn't care what you do, you can be saved regardless. And I asked you about that - most people of that opinion say you need to be saved by faith because simply existing in the real world is such a terrible sin that nothing good you do could ever balance it out, from god's point of view you're basically just sinning with every waking moment (probably while dreaming too- what do you think?). But you're now saying it is possible for god to balance the good and bad things you do and reward you appropriately... so why the arbitrary requirement for belief? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

But it's twice as reputable as 4chan! Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Or 1 in 500, plus the risk of non-fatal complications like brain damage or permanent deafness. I wonder - of the people that believe vaccines cause autism, what do they think the rate of vaccine caused autism is? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Sure they would. I don't see that but, yeah that'll do it. But how would any of that be part of a secret scheme that Q has knowledge of? The first one could be, sure. But the other three? None of those could possibly count as a prediction based on insider knowledge of a deep state/anti-deep state conspiracy. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

So... the rise of Black Lives Matter in 2013 was the worst case scenario you could imagine? You can't conceive of any civil uprising that could be more damaging to the USA than Black Lives Matter? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

The more you think about it, the more amazing the idea becomes that Trump thought Finland has fewer forest fires because they clear their forests better. Is it the fact that even southern Finland is 1500 miles further north than Sacramento that makes it so good? Is it that the average annual temperature of the central region is 20C colder? Is it that much of Finland's forests are under snow for 7 months of the year while much of California's wildfire areas have more summer sunshine hours than almost anywhere else in the world? Maybe it's that most of the space in Finland that isn't forest is either lake or bog instead of arid grassland, or maybe the idea that a country of 5.5M people could ever effectively manage fire suppression over 100,000sq miles of forest in the first place. Put it all together and it might just be my favourite thing he's ever said. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Lol, no you won't. You'll just claim that something major did happen, but it happened in secret and that's why no-one knows about it. Exactly like you just did a couple of minutes ago Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Measles parties were one thing, but chicken pox was always kept at home when I grew up. Chicken pox fucking HURTS and has life long implications. Measles is just a bit itchy. Lots of people DIED of measles in the bad old days. "Measles affects about 20 million people a year, primarily in the developing areas of Africa and Asia. No other vaccine-preventable disease causes as many deaths. In 1980, 2.6 million people died of it, and in 1990, 545,000 died; by 2014, global vaccination programs had reduced the number of deaths from measles to 73,000. The risk of death among those infected is usually 0.2%, but may be up to 10% in people with malnutrition." Do you want to have an ideagasm?

For winning? I think the excuses you're using for losing this one are much better. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

It's a conflict with the idea that God cares what you do. Again, the evil bastard who gets scared when he's dying and finds out that he really does believe in Jesus gets forgiven just as easily as the nicest person you've ever met. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Which is 100% irrelevant to what we're talking about. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Yeah but those dead pathogens have got loads of artificial preservatives and stuff in, so it must be bad. These live viruses are all natural so they're definitely better. It's like going organic, y'know? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

I can see that; it would be difficult for me too, as touching someone's bare feet with your bare hands is a pretty intimate act. I mean, if it is another man, is it ok if you don't make eye contact? What if you look down and the person washing you looks up and waggles his eyebrows up and down? What would you do? Go all aggro and try to break his nose with your knee? Or one up him and slowly lick your top lip? Or give him the subtle bird by scratching your nose with your middle finger? Would you give a guy a foot massage? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

"Sparks from damaged or malfunctioning power lines operated by PG&E, a state-regulated electric utility, may have been to blame for the Camp Fire’s ignition amidst rugged federally-managed lands to the east of Paradise." Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Well there you go. You don't want to see a liberal political agenda, right? So Google doesn't show you one. Do you want to have an ideagasm?