jakee

ROFL. Trump is a Billionaire from a Billionaire family. Obama was raised by a single mother. There is no version of the word elite that does not describe background and privilege of Donald Trump, and none that does describe that of Barack Obama until he got elected. You guys throw these words around so much you forget the actually mean something.

Go for it, but the comments in question weren't in the mass shootings thread, so I guess that means you just lied about your reasons for saying 'foreigners can't comment', and you're still being a hypocrote for seeing no problem with Turtle jumping into other nations' political issues. But he's not. First no-one that I'm aware of, outside this 'gotcha' video where the leading questions are begging for the response the interviewer wants, is suggesting that other people should have to take illegal immgrants into their homes. The entire video is railing against a position that doesn't exist in any meangful way. And it isn't about sabctuary places. In fact, Turtle has avoided questions about any other form of sanctuary place by pointing out that the video is very specifically and only about sanctuary houses. The point does not apply to sanctuary cities or anything else of that type. The two of you can't have it both ways. Zero credit for you. Hang on a mnute, we were just talking about Sweden, now your bringing California into it? You couldn't possibly be saying that political and ethical concepts can apply across national borders, could you? Sure sounds like it - so how about you go back and answer the questions you were hiding from by saying they didn't? A handful of Swedish liberals who were cleverly lead into a trap over a policy that doesn't exist in the real world, either in Sweden or the US. So again, what was the point? So far you've done a lot of highlighting your own hypocrisy, but I really don't see what you were actually hoping to achieve?

That's exactly what the Mueller report says about the Trump Tower meeting.

So you're proving Bill's point. Your recent actions here on this site are indeed anti-wall and pro-illegal immigration.

No prosecutor ever proved that Hillary did anything wrong. Did you ever give a fuck about that?

Umm, apparently it said Mueller considered charging Jr and Kushner but couldn't be certain of proving their guilt in court. It also proves Trump dictated a statement which lied to the public about the meeting, then lied to the public about dictating the statement. If this was Hillary, your head would have exploded by now. Literally, the sheer outrage would have killed you.

Bullshit. I didn't say anything about policy, I commented on a moral stance which applies no matter what country you're in. Why does it extend more to foreigners talking about the US than Americans talking about foreigners? That's blatantly hypocritical. Why did he pass it on - because the principle involved can be applied across national borders, perhaps? By the way, I did notice that you completey dodged the part where I asked you what you think his point was anyway. Nice try though.

There was contact between the Trump campaign and Russian agents.

So what is his point, apart fom laughing at some random Vikings? (By the way, shoudn't you be opposed to him commenting on a foreign political situation? I'm pretty sure you said something along those lines quite recently. I'd hate to think you were being some kind of hypocrite.)

Who is advocating it? Who is demanding it? Who is voting for it? Who is this thread aimed at, except for the few people in Scandinavia caught out by this 'gotcha' question?

Hmmm, sounds like you care.

You don’t remember hearing anyone whine about the Patriot Act, DHS, the TSA, body scanners, body searches and having to take your shoes off? Amazing selective memory you have there!

Sounds like those are planned sections of wall the administration wants to push through with the funding currently available. Doesn’t change the fact that the stated plan has always been to get full funding for a full wall.

So your thread has nothing to do with the concept of sanctuary cities. Shouldn’t it be called “Sanctuary houses...” so we can all be clear that you’re talking about a concept no-one else is?

So, you don’t think that right wing groups should be allowed to live anywhere? Do you think there should be a law to keep them out of your city?

Do you think other random Americans should be allowed to stay in your house, or do you think they should be banned from coming to your city?

Yeah, but that’s because you couldn’t even be bothered to read what I actually said, you just made a snap judgement on what you thought I said.

And yet Texas has over 1100 murders a year. Is that your solution for those 1100 families, tell them their loved one is only half as dead? Doesn’t really work like that. Or or are you going to tell them sorry, I only care about crime that illegals commit, I have no interest in hard discussions about the majority of crime that happens in the country?

Amazeballs. “OMG Dems are going nuts ‘cos they can’t handle it! Losers!” ”No they aren’t...” ”OMG Dems are totally ignoring this because they can’t handle it! Losers!”

Would the IRS be allowed to divulge that information to Congress? In any respect, why does it matter? Audit or not, the only thing stopping the release of Trump's tax returns is Trump.

You do realise that's just about the exact opposite of what I said, right?

So what's your solution to American on American crime? Are you ready to have a meaningful discourse on ripping up every part of the bill of rights that stops law enforcement from pre-emptively punishing potential American criminals, or are you going to dismiss all of those victims because you're too much of a snowflake to consider it?

So you do want to kick all the Americans out of Texas because of how many crimes they commit? Bold stance.

How many crimes have been committed by the Americans who are in Texas jails? What do you plan to do about them? Are you going to kick all the Americans out of Texas so they can't commit anymore crimes or do your bleeding heart snowflake ideas about freedom get in the way of that? Aliens are humans (hehe), some humans are bad. If you can deal with the badness of humans who have the same colour passport as you, you can deal with the badness of those who don't.

That is the point of the thread...