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  1. jakee
    Where are the burned out buildings? Seriously, post some evidence of those. Come on man, someone tells you you're getting your information from a parody website and your response is 'yawn'? Why don't you care if the things you believe are based in reality or not?
  2. jakee
    Why are you bothered about the renaming - isn't that simply your feelings? Aren't you a big enough boy to get over it? Like, by insisting that the Army needs to remember past history by keeping bases named after past soldiers? I'm not sure why you've decided to start arguing against your own point.
  3. jakee
    I mean yeah, that's pretty ridiculous. I have to ask, are you legally blind? Putting this insane claim alongside your insane Edinburgh mosque claim (which I don't think you've even admitted being wrong about) and I'm starting to wonder if you are genuinely unable to see very well and that's why you say these things that simply make you a figure of fun.
  4. jakee
    You are confused. I was responding directly to that point. I'll restate it for you - renaming the bases is not in any way 'erasing' history. It is simply not honouring parts of history that shoud not be honoured. Conflating the two is an asinine argument. Clear enough this time buddy?
  5. jakee
    You said that the last demonstration 'Antifa' held in your town was paid no mind by anyone. I'm pretty sure that means it was non-destructive and easy to work around. now you say they held another demonstration that was similarly puny and ineffective. So... why are you concerned? Clearly in your neck of the woods 'Antifa' is peaceful and quite small. So what's the problem? I know that's what you wish to be true, but wishing doesn't make it so. No matter how much you wish that whatever you wish is true.
  6. jakee
    That is also problematic for me. First, in the context of being a military commander for the Third Reich, being apolitical is being political, in that his actions furthered the aims of the genocidal maniacs in power. Second, the popular image of him being solely a brilliant military commander is parly rooted in Nazi propaganda that he willingly participated in, and third the idea that he was redeemed by involvement in the July assasination attempt is also questionable. The best that can be said for sure is that he had some tangential knowledge of a plot against Hitler's leadership and didn't report it.
  7. jakee
    No-one will forget that the cvil war happened because bases arent named after Confederate commanders anymore. As mentioned with the statues previously, it's the most asinine argument. Remembering isn't the same as celebrating. To use the most obvious example, no-one would accuse the Germans of trying to erase their history simply because they don't have an army base called the Adolf Hitler Kasern or an airfield called the Hermann Goering Fliegerhorst. In fact if they did have those things just about everyone in the world who doesn't have a swastika or SS insignia tattooed somewhere on their body would think it grossly offensive and inappropriate.
  8. jakee
    There were plenty of discussion on that here a few years ago. There were some people saying that cops should be so close to their partners that testifying against them would be testifying against their family. Personally, I think that's not just immediately damaging in that it leads to many crimes and misconduct by officers going unpunished, it's damaging to the entire police force and every fellow officer in how much public distrust it leads to, and it is also (Serpico being entirely relevant) the first rung on the ladder of police corruption. Not only does it normalise the behaviour of breaking the regs but it introduces a potential lever that other corrupt cops can use to recruit them into more serious crime.
  9. jakee
    Lol what? So he believes Nascar shouldn't allow people to protest racism by kneeling during the anthem of the Union, and also believes Nascar should allow people to fly the racist rebel flag of the Confederacy... but I bet he's not a racist at all. No sirree.
  10. jakee
    Yes, it's a massive facepalm if you think that goalpost switch is going to go unnoticed. You chose that specific post to complain about, presumably you had a reason. If you can't explain what that reason is you must realise that your complaint is going to seem rather silly.
  11. jakee
    Yes. I'm not saying or implying that you wouldn't step in because you're any kind of a coward or don't care about Floyd's life. I was very clear about that from the beginning. I'm saying that you wouldn't step in because pretty much nobody would step in. If you think it's an attack on your values to say that you're not a staggeringly exceptional human being with a sense of morality and justice and willingness to act which is a shining beacon to all mankind - that's on you.
  12. jakee
    Clearly you don't. Nothing in that post is an attack on your values. It's not even a criticism of you to say that you wouldn't have stepped in, because as I pointed out, almost nobody would.
  13. jakee
    And while doing that you made the decision to specifically mention bullying black people. Cops don't bully black people just because they're bullies, it is racism. What you wrote does imply racism on his part. It would be perfectly reasonable to say it was a mistake and you didn't mean it like that, but don't try and gaslight people into thinking the implication isn't there. What part of my argument here is circular? On the contrary, it's quite direct.
  14. jakee
    Buuuuuullshit. You specifically said "glad he's not black and you're not a cop". That is absolutely an implication of racism. At least be man enough to own up to what you said and not try to weasel out of it. How is that in an way relevant in this case. Yobnoc's comment was on the public board. Turtle could read it just as easily as everyone else. Come on man, if the only way you can defend your comment is by inventing an imaginary context for it then you might need to start realising that you were wrong and a bully to say what you did.
  15. jakee

    Antifa poll

    jakee replied to gowlerk's topic in Speakers Corner

    If you want to know, how about you find out for yourself instead of always trying to get others to spoon feed you information? Contrasted to how rude you are whenever anyone asks you to look something up for them and it's pretty damn hypocritical don't you think?
  16. jakee
    So you didn't go on the night you were told you'd need to be protected. Again, doesn't go with the fearless man of action claims you're making. If you're asking me to do your homework for you then you'll need to say that. In the meantime, the question still stands. How would you have stopped Floyd from dying? What actions would you have taken that would have made that cop stop doing what he was doing?
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    Antifa poll

    jakee replied to gowlerk's topic in Speakers Corner

    The picture of the KKK is the only one that references a national head office with an address and phone number for people to call up and join. That's probably some kind of a clue.
  18. jakee
    So again, what were you going to achieve by intervening? You think it was somehow instinctual to you but not to the cops, and when you tell them they'll see reason? Again, what could you add that they didn't already know?
  19. jakee
    You are stating your theoretical actions, decided in the comfort of your own home with the benefit of perfect hindsight, as fact. They are not. You are stating the result of those actions from you or anyone else there (Floyd alive) as fact. They are not. You may know you, but you don't know reality. (And BTW, I know you said you didn't go to a protest march because someone told you that you might get hurt. Doesn't quite fit with the 'man of action' claim.) And again, you've been asked several times but still haven't been able to state how exactly you would intervene and why that would have resulted in the cops letting Floyd live. So far all you've presented is wishful thinking, and you're using that as an excuse to deflect blame away from the guilty parties and on to completely innocent bystanders, which is not very nice at all.
  20. jakee
    What gave you the impression he wasn't blaming his own people? It's not an either/or proposition. In real life there is usually more than one factor involved in any given occurence.
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    Antifa poll

    jakee replied to gowlerk's topic in Speakers Corner

    You can only really define it at the most basic level anyway. Antifa is a movement about being against fascism and taking direct and/or militant action against it. So you're right about it not being enough to just agree with their philosophy to make you part of it. Like being a fan of a sports team isn't the same as being a season ticket holder. I'd disagree that they're anything like the klan though for two reasons, first is that being opposed to an ideology is nothing at all like being opposed to a race or gender or anything else that was set at birth. Second is that antifa isn't an organisation as such, more of a movement. The biggest press attention gets focussed on the most out there stuff done in their name but it doesn't necessarily represent what most antifa members do or support.
  22. jakee

    TRUMP MUST GO

    jakee replied to kallend's topic in Speakers Corner

    Just saw the whole tweet. Holy shit. Not only is it a despicable thing to say, it's yet another unhinged conspiracy theory.
  23. jakee
    Sounds like that's going to rumble on for a while. I wonder if they're going to explain why they needed to disable the cars in an area they already cleared and controlled. And how much money they're going to end up spending to compensate the owners.
  24. jakee
    Once again, you are detached from reality if you think what you are saying is true. Either that you would step in or that anyone there but one of the cops could reasonably have saved Floyds life.
  25. jakee

    Antifa poll

    jakee replied to gowlerk's topic in Speakers Corner

    True, however while there is no unified organisation called Antifa, the antifa movement is about getting involved in direct action against fascism, not just about being philosophically opposed to fascism. In fact, 'antifa' is not just an abbreviation for anti-fascist but for anti-fascist action, and has been ever since it originated in Germany in the '30s with the paramilitary group Antifaschistische Aktion. So, I am against fascism, but I'm not antifa.