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Very nice. There's a falconry center near us in New England. I'm hoping the Kelicopter will take me there for a birthday soon. Thanks for the pics.

Cora, I just can't thank you enough for this thread. Just...thank you.

Okay then, here's the brightened version! Hubba hubba!! Thank you...

Did you land at Snack Jacks for a beer? Is that place still even there? There is not much better than a nice day of beach jumps at Flagler.

They (Oklahoma city) have always done it that way. Makes it really difficult for us. Like when someone comes in to get their IA. If they have recently changed over to a non-SSN certificate number, the database won't show that they have been an A&P for the prescribed number of years. A real pain to have to keep the mechanic waiting while we call OKC and verify that he/ she has been an A&P for three years. Don't even get me started on the picture. Why didn't they use a pic of Charles Taylor for mechanics certificates?

that's why man invented the razor. Or wax

Um....wow. Thank you.

Congress mandated that airman certificates include a photo. The FAA is still working out the details. Congress told us to, but didn't give us the funding. They are issuing some photo airman certificates on a trial basis to FAA employees. One of my coworkers got one the last time he was in Oklahoma City. Damndest thing, it has an expiration date of five years. We assume it's only the picture that expires, but the reg still says "until surrendered, suspended, or revoked." Last I checked, it shouldn't cost anything if you request to have a number other than your SSN on your ticket. Blues, Henry

I had no prob depositing with my visa. Took about 2 seconds. Have there been issues?

I have lots of jumps at Falgler back in the day. You are correct Rocky and Fang were definitely "characters". Great story

It used to be done that way at many DZs. At Palatka, we would drop off a signed check at manifest and settle up at the end of the weekend, or the next week, or the next... It was a real easy way of keeping track of jumps without having to log after each one.

Nice. You know, I was having dinner with MadDog at the Thai place in Deland last year and he says "remember Rags?". Of course i did, and he points to this guy at another table. Christ, he's all gray. Did I just not notice we all get older? Peace bro

Geez... How is it that everyone else looks older yet I still look the same? Nice pic rickerby.

Don't worry grasshopper you will learn and the world will continue to rotate even when errors are made. Edit to add: fill in your profile, you'll make more friends here.

Your statement seems to be contradicted by this attachment. (page 4) http://www.boeing.com/commercial/airports/arff/arff767.pdf Note the "equipment access door" just behind the front landing gear door. Correct me if I'm wrong. I had forgotten that some have such doors. My memory is a little fuzzy on these doors, but I think they are pretty darn small. I can't remember the size of the door in the floor of the cabin either. The B-767 depicted in the drawings does provide access to the E-E bay via a floor hatch just aft of the flight deck door. It's about a 2'X2' opening. (large enough for a tired mechanic on midnight shift to fall straight down through when he walks onto a dark airplane and some numbnuts has left the hatch open, but that's another story). So yeah, you could get down to the E-E bay door in the belly. You'd never get it open with the aircraft pressurized. If you did get it open and try to exit at any reasonable airspeed, I think you'd get about 1/4 of your body out before you got slammed into the trailing edge of the 2'X2' opening and proceed to injure yourself greatly. Have fun....

Then does that mean that the supervising rigger has to redo not just the pack, but undo and then redo the maintenance or alteration, i.e. patch on the canopy or new BOC? I believe that these are guidelines with some room for interpretation more than absolutes. If he's a master rigger he would not have to redo the repairs. Per part 65 a master rigger can supervise alterations and repairs. Per the 105 rule, he would have to redo the pack job because 105 doesn't give the option of supervising a non-certificated person packing the reserve. Advisory circulars are guidelines. 14 CFR is a regulation.

Just throwing something out there.... If the rigger is supervising step by step (in the room, actively working with the apprentice) - the rigger's eyes inspect every step while the students hands do the work. A rigger's eyes and brain is what you hire a rigger for, if they direct someone else's hands to do the folding, it is no different than directing their own hands... How many seconds can a reserve be touched by a non-rigger before it becomes illegeally packed? Heck, translate this to other industries where apprentices work under teachers. In medicine students start by watching a procedure, at sometime they start to help the teacher with the surgery, and by the end of their apprentice period they are supposed to be able to direct the whole operating room and be in command of the procedure, perhaps teaching the next generation, with their teacher stepping back and watching. (watch once, do once, teach once) If it works for my heart, then it seems a reserve... I think there is a difference between the rigger not paying attention and signing off when done (if a reputable rigger is that comfortable with their student it is time to get them signed off), and the rigger's eyes and soul being on the packjob while someone else does the fabric folding. Tdog - I don't disagree that perhaps it _should_ be okay. I'm just pointing out that the rule doesn't offer that option. It says what it says. Maybe it's time for USPA to talk to Washington about issuing clarification or changing the Part 105 rule. Blues, ht

Tom, The part 65 reg says "pack, maintain, or alter". The part 105 reg says "conduct a parachute operation". I agree that the intent may have been for riggers in training to pack reserves under the supervision of a certificated rigger, and then for those reserves to be jumped. But, somewhere along the line, the 105 reg was codified to say what it does. I'm just trying to help make sure someone doesn't misinterpret and get themselves in trouble.

I'm not a rigger. I'm just an average shmo trying to make sense of this. But, theoretically, wouldn't it be possible for a person going for their ticket to pack a reserve while being supervised by a rigger, then have the rigger unpack it and repack it? After all, the reqs say that the "student" must pack 20 reserves, but they don't say that those packs actually have to be jumped. I'm not saying this is feasible, but wouldn't it satisfy the two seemingly incongruous requirements? It's very feasible and that is the intent of the rule. Pack em and unpack em, and pack em again...just don't jump em cause they weren't packed by a senior or master rigger.

Quote Absolutely Not True! If it were, which it is not, the letter for the required pack jobs could never be acheived. It is required that a canidate for a rigger's certificate pack at least 20 reserve pack jobs prior to taking the written. Ummm Mark?. It is absolutely true. The rule says what it says. To make a legal jump per 14CFR Section 105 your reserve SHALL be packed by a certificated rigger. The pack jobs that are done under supervision of a rigger to qualify for their rigger's ticket are not legal to be jumped.

Not really. The rule says "must have been packed by a certificated parachute rigger". It doesn't give an option for supervising a non-certificated rigger. Sort of like an Annual Inspection on an aircraft. It has to be done by an IA, not accomp;lished by an A&P under the supervision of an IA.

Yow... 25.

Point out the text in FAR 105, Parachute Operations, that says that? I can't find it. 14 CFR Section 105 Subpart C 105.43 Use of single-harness, dual-parachute systems. top No person may conduct a parachute operation using a single-harness, dual-parachute system, and no pilot in command of an aircraft may allow any person to conduct a parachute operation from that aircraft using a single-harness, dual-parachute system, unless that system has at least one main parachute, one approved reserve parachute, and one approved single person harness and container that are packed as follows: (a) The main parachute must have been packed within 120 days before the date of its use of a certificated parachute rigger, the person making the next jump with that parachute, or a non-certificated person under the direct supervision of a certification parachute rigger. (b) The reserve parachute must have been packed by a certificated parachute rigger—

I would argue that installing a cypres UNIT is not an alteration. Installing a cypres kit, or "retrofitting" the rig for a cypres, is definetly an alteration. Simply taking the AAD out is not an alteration to the TSO'd harness. Point taken. I was assuming removal of the entire kit. My bad. ht