peacefuljeffrey

In the time period when she would have been this "go-to girl," were they even selling pot in "dime bags"? I thought that was only in the late '80s because the price was so much higher then than it was when the Bushes would have been in that age group. Blue skies, -Jeffrey - -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Oh, it's fine, I'm sure that the comment was not made as even a semi-serious threat. I'm just saying that the subject, at least for me, is so touchy that I wouldn't go near making a joke like that. It's like joking that you'd dilute someone's mother's cancer medication. Just in such bad taste that I don't find it funny in any venue. I may be more sensitive than others, but can't apologize for that. Murder's murder. Blue skies, -Jeffrey - -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

"But I think you can be an honest person and lie about any number of things. --Dan Rather on FNC's O'Reilly Factor May 15, 2001. " I love it. If I didn't love Jonathan Livingston Seagull more, I'd make this my new sig line. Blue skies, -Jeffrey - -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Did they use lethal chemical weapons then, or just crowd-dispersal "weapons"? And what's with your new sig? Is the "KKK" reference deliberate?? -Jeffrey - It's only a matter of degree. Tear gas can kill if the victim is unable to get away or has respiratory problems. More disingenuousness from Kallend. Even amorous activity is "a matter of degree." I can fondle a lover's earlobe with a feather touch, or I can rip it off her head with only what, 6 pounds of pressure or something like that. So let's talk about the intent of using something like CS or OC, as opposed to sarin or mustard gas... Don't worry, reply as disingenuously as you like. It's not like I'm awaiting an argument made in good faith. -Jeffrey - -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Usually I'm too caught up in laughing at yours the way you just did at mine, and I never get around to reading my own. -Jeffrey - -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Holy shit, how did I get through that post without stating that I don't understand why Jenny McCarthy wasn't picked for the role of Daisy?! She's perfect to play the corn-fed buxom country girl! -Jeffrey - -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Think about Jenny McCarthy. I don't think there's much room for doubt that she is beautiful, talented and intelligent. Her self-named show was reallllly funny. -Jeffrey - -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

By God, your posts get so smarmy and petulant! Do you ever let up? -Jeffrey - -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Did they use lethal chemical weapons then, or just crowd-dispersal "weapons"? And what's with your new sig? Is the "KKK" reference deliberate?? -Jeffrey - -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Well at least we agree on something So do I....But to assume that these people would all vote Democratic is kinda foolish don't ya think? I mean since when has your name given a hint to your political leanings? Well, we get this from the same Democratic party that believes if you're black, you're poor, and if you're white, you're prosperous, and there we have the basis for Affirmative Action. More and more, while they try to paint themselves as compassionate and egalitarian, Democrats reveal themselves to be full-on racially prejudiced. "Blacks are poor and need affirmative action. Hispanics always vote Republican." -Jeffrey - -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

I certainly am friends enough with my across the street neighbors to stay with them, as MOST people probably are. Perhaps the people across the Street from you overheard you badmouthing FPL workers and want to keep their distance. I certainly would. Trust me, I have no problem with you keeping your distance. The people who live across the street are mostly elderly people, or families, and I am not acquainted with them in a way in which I would feel comfortable inviting myself to spend the night at their houses. That is not the same as staying over at "friends' " houses. That, I did, once they got their power back on and I didn't have mine yet. Look, I'm through discussing this, justifying it, whatever. I made my apologies and stuff posts and posts ago, but people like you keep harping on it. Makes me wonder how you keep friends. -Jeffrey - -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Must be true if you saw it on TV. Without a "" there, Kallend, I have to take your comment as earnest, meaning that you are truly saying that I should be skeptical of this. In other words, nothing you see on t.v. can be believed. If the t.v. news shows a house burning, you should be skeptical that it really is on fire unless you get into the car and go see for yourself. What I saw was a documentary on guns, shooting, and even the U.S. Army marksmanship team. I guess I might as well have not watched the show, if afterwards I was supposed to just say, "Ahh, pffft, they could have faked all of it." The guy I saw, while I forget his name, was billed as a famous name in shooting, and they explained about the skills he's developed. If you don't want to believe that what I saw him do is something he actually did, I don't care. That's fine. But there's such a thing as an irrational level of skepticism, and you are sittin' square in that zone with this post. -Jeffrey - -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Been there, did that -- just not every single night. Logistics, responsibilities... edit: Oh, and when your friends all don't have power, it makes little sense to go out of the way to stay with them. Only makes sense when they have power restored while you still don't, right? And if some get it early, but they live 45 minutes away, you gonna schlep there and back just for the overnight, when there's a curfew in effect, the threat of arrest, and debris all over the streets and traffic signals still not working? -Jeffrey - -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Peacefuljeffrey for President!!

Wow, I am certain I am not alone in finding not one iota of anything funny in even joking about that. -Jeffrey - -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

I think I tried those, but I prefer the plain milk chocolate ones. If I want Reese's taste, I go for Pieces. They RULE! OMG I just realized how long it's been since I remembered to buy them! Blue skies, -Jeffrey - -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Who cares? The people who are trying to keep a right that people who feel the way you feel about it are constantly trying to take away from us forever. What "other way to solve these issues" is going to stop a woman tomorrow from getting raped and strangled in an empty parking lot, or her one-bedroom apartment? Social programs, education funding, blah blah blah do not help anyone in the here and now, nor can they be expected to eliminate 100% of the rapists and murderers from the population, so there will always be people who might come down to the nitty-gritty of needing a gun or other weapon to defend themselves and save their own lives. You know, saying "I've read this before" does not actually refute anything I've said. Just waving your hand and saying, "Yeah yeah" and dismissing a valid argument is not equivalent of stating cogent arguments that contradict mine. -Jeffrey - -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

You must not have been paying attention to any of the gun-threads in this forum for the last three months or so. We have dealt repeatedly with the failure of gun control in Britain. Since their gun ban went into effect in 1997, their gun crime rate has had triple-digit increases -- about 40% per year, by many estimates. Besides, the defenders of that ban here on this forum -- Brits themselves -- have repeatedly insisted that WE should not claim that GUN OWNERSHIP FOR SELF DEFENSE should be engaged over there because what works for one country won't necessarily work for the other. So you're arguing against the very insistence made by the people in the country you're saying we should emulate. They say that gun ownership would be a disaster over there, and even concede that gun banning probably would not help over here. I never said that there were not the various hopeless cases in society. People who would shoot anyone just because "they pissed me off" should be removed from society in one way or another. Care to explain why I should not be able to carry a gun to defend myself against such people, who may decide that I "pissed them off"? And if you want to try to stay with me, here, when did California pass "shall-issue concealed carry permit laws" which would make what happens in L.A. relevant to our discussion? If there were freeway shootings happening in L.A. in recent memory, it sure as hell was not being committed by people with permits to carry their guns! I continue to believe that you do not involve a lot of factual information in the way you draw your conclusions and form your opinions and position on guns and gun ownership. Blue skies, -Jeffrey - -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

So let's hurry and replace him with Kerry so we can mitigate the ignorant fuckwittedness with mendacity and two-facedness. -Jeffrey - -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

I'd like to see a news piece showing two trained marksmen going head-to-head with a 125 year old revolver and a semiautomatic AK to see which one can be fired more rapidly. I think most viewers would be very surprised. I saw a guy on t.v. once who could fire a .38 Special revolver (albeit it probably was custom worked) -- all six rounds -- in UNDER ONE SECOND. Yes, that's not an error, less than a single second, and he had fired off all six rounds from a .38 Special revolver, and as I recall it was with reasonable accuracy into a target. What I'd like to see is how someone can fire a typical "assault weapon" -- a TEC-9 might be nice for the exhibition -- "farther" than one can fire a Remington 700 in some decent hunting caliber... Blue skies, -Jeffrey - -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

I think that in those years you cited, it was the U.S. saving the ass of the French, n'est ce pas? Just what are you talking about? Blue skies, -Jeffrey - -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

There are women who have saved their own lives from rapists, muggers and murderers because they had a gun. They might take issue with your claim that there is "no need" for concealed carry. They are here to raise their children because of their guns, in some cases. Maybe you could poll the children about the "need" for their mother to have that lifesaving gun at that critical moment. Blue skies, -Jeffrey - -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

That happens all the time. I don't need to consider it because local governments do, lawyers, etc. If you spend more time in this sport you will hear this option brought up. In fact, we were not sure if GA was going to fly again after 9/11. There was not a chance in hell that something as huge as GA was "never going to fly again," and for anyone who is reasonable to suggest or claim a belief that it looked like it would not is absurd. It's almost like saying that a bad enough highway pileup would bring about the end of automobile travel. If this is the extent to which you trust your fellow human beings, then I don't blame you. But the fact that 36 states now have concealed carry laws in place and STILL your little nightmare scenario is a statistical non-event, people like you go about claiming that gun bans are your best means of preempting such anomalies from killing you. Your example is absolutely ridiculous, an example of the desperation to which anti-gunners (and you qualify as one, despite your claims of enjoying target shooting and having a FOID) will go to "show" how dangerous gun ownership is. Crime rates have gone down to a 30-year low despite that we have 36 states allowing background-checked people to carry guns on their persons. How do you possibly account for that? How, if anything you fear is true (tollway shooters and whatnot), could we possibly have crime and murder going down as millions more people come to own and carry millions more guns? All I'm saying is, the reason you and other anti-gunners offer NEVER add up -- NEVER -- and never survive scrutiny without being totally disproven and shredded in a logical sense. Anti-gunism cannot survive without parroting lies. Blue skies, -Jeffrey - -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

When the "recusal" suddenly surfaces in a week or so, don't forget to make sure if it was typed on an IBM Selectric. Blue skies, -Jeffrey - -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Well, in the War for Independence, one of the countries of which we speak -- England -- was the actual dictator! I'd say that kinda cancels out France's assistance. Besides, France's turning its back on us despite our help through TWO MORE WORLD WARS does a hell of a lot to counter the aid they've rendered in the past. Blue skies, -Jeffrey - -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"