ChasingBlueSky

Maybe he doesn't watch the news. I have my Tivo set to record many news programs. Its fun watching Fox and CNN with thier talking points. I also watch the BBC news. I tend to keep the Daily Show for at least a week at a time. Yes, SH HAD those weapons. In the 20th century. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

what about this one: "There can be no doubt that Saddam Hussein has biological weapons and the capability to rapidly produce more, many more," Powell said then, at one point holding up a vial of simulated biological agent -- an image broadcast around the world. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

Lying about a blowjob = Ok Lying about a blowjob under oath in front of a federal grand jury = Bad You do see the difference in the two, right? Do I need to explain further? Lying about WMD in a country and having 1000+ Americans die = even worse. Don't forget - Powell went on tv and said that even at a conservative guess they had huge stockpiles. Remember this is the supposed reason on why we went to war, and it was 100% false. No argument on the lie under oath, its wrong, bad, etc,....that was the past, Clinton is done and out out office. The mistakes are still being made by the current administration!! Lettin OBL walk around (Bush has said he feels he is no longer a priority) so he can rebuild and lead another attack? Not enforcing policy against North Korea? _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

I'm sure the families of 1000 dead troops and the countless innocent citizens of Iraq will be happy to know there was never a threat. At least we are letting North Korea build up their weapons program so when we attack them there is less pie on our face Makes you wonder what other things the GW admin was wrong about despite their strong language? Powell: Unlikely WMD Stocks Will Be Found in Iraq By Arshad Mohammed WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Secretary of State Colin Powell, who made the case to the world that pre-war Iraq had stocks of chemical and biological weapons, said on Monday he now thought these will probably never be found. "I think it's unlikely that we will find any stockpiles," Powell told lawmakers when asked about the intelligence behind his Feb. 5, 2003, U.N. Security Council speech laying out U.S. arguments for the war with Iraq that began six weeks later. Powell's latest comments appeared to be his most explicit to date suggesting that the central argument for President Bush decision to invade Iraq -- the belief it possessed weapons of mass destruction -- was flawed. As early as January Powell said it was an "open question" whether or not such arms would be found and he conceded the possibility Iraq might not have had any when the war began. Bush himself had often said that even if no such weapons are found he did the right thing in invading Iraq in March 2003 and toppling Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, arguing that the country has been liberated from brutal dictatorship. U.S. officials have also said that whether or not it had stockpiles in 2003, Iraq was a threat because it had possessed and used chemical weapons in the past, notably to kill 5,000 Iraqi Kurds in the town of Halabja in 1988 (So why didn't we use this excuse in 1991?). The war in Iraq, in which more than 1,000 U.S. troops have died, and the violent insurgency that has developed since the U.S. invasion are a major issues in Bush's reelection battle against Democratic nominee Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts. Powell made his comments as Charles Duelfer, the CIA - named leader of the hunt for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, is working on a report about his findings that was expected to be completed in the next few weeks. Duelfer's predecessor, David Kay, said as he left the post in January that he believed there were no large stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction when Washington went to war. While he had reservations about the state of Iraq's efforts to obtain nuclear weapons when he spoke before the U.N. Security Council in February 2003, Powell insisted at that time that it had stocks of both biological and chemical weapons. "There can be no doubt that Saddam Hussein has biological weapons and the capability to rapidly produce more, many more," Powell said then, at one point holding up a vial of simulated biological agent -- an image broadcast around the world. "Our conservative estimate is that Iraq today has a stockpile of between 100 and 500 tons of chemical weapons agent," he said at the time. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

40% chance of hurricane strength in the next 72 hours. BTW - have you looked at the storms rolling off Africa today? Wonder if that will be another storm for next week as well? _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

Don't mean to make it worse, but I am sure you have heard more about it down there than we have up here....you guys are entering a high period that may last ten years for hurricanes. This may well become the norm. Outside of Andrew, FL has been really lucky for a long time...they are predicting that luck has run out. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

haha - fuck dat too. Just to toss in a bit on velcro - I have a friend that jumped an old Mirage with Velcro riser covers for years. He is a rigger and changes out the velcro almost every month and he has yet to have a riser come undone. Bill Booth has stated many times that the velcro risers are the most secure form of all the risers if the velcro is replaced when it is supposed to be. However, we all know that jumpers do not follow out all the maintenance schedules. Personally, with the speeds I go, I would never chance jumping anything that used Velcro as a closing method for RW or FF...I don't care what rig it is or if I change the velcro every weekend. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

Right now we have more solid proof of a weapons program in NK than in Iran or Iraq. I feel that Iran is a country in the midst of a change and the balance of power may swing away from the religious and into a more moderate government. This is something that shouldn't be touched by us - they need to work it out on their own. We should still monitor, however, for our own safety. Also, why would GW care about what China thinks? A good portion of our allies asked us not to go into Iraq. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

Last I checked GW said that if it is a threat to our contry he will go it alone, much like he did in Iraq. Why should NK be any different? _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

Yeah...that's all we've done over the past three years. "Label them axis of evil" I guess I can tell that to my buddy who's missing a leg and part of his nose. I never said anything about the troops still sitting on the DMZ. Policy is what I was refering to. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

Ok, so Clinton screwed up. And then GW never followed up. Well, he did label them "axis of evil" which was pretty effective. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

Yup, nothing to worry about - if the warnings listed below come from the same source that said Iraq had a WMD program. North Korea May Test Nukes, U.S. Warned By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON - The United States has received indications North Korea (news - web sites) might be trying to test a nuclear weapon, a senior Bush administration official said Sunday. The official said there is no evidence that a large mushroom cloud that reportedly billowed up from North Korea was linked to the communist nation's suspected nuclear weapons program. "We're watching the indicators to see whether this is normal activity or whether something else is under way," the official said on condition of anonymity. The White House periodically receives reports that North Korea is seeking to test a nuclear weapon, the official said. Democrat John Kerry (news - web sites) said that just the idea that the United States was thinking North Korea might test a nuclear weapon highlights a national security failure by Bush. Under Bush's watch, North Korea has advanced its nuclear program, he said. "North Korea's nuclear program is well ahead of what Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) was even suspected of doing — yet the president took his eye off the ball, wrongly ignoring this growing danger," Kerry said in a statement. "What is unfolding in North Korea is exactly the kind of disaster that it is an American president's solemn duty to prevent." In a telephone call Sunday evening to The New York Times, Kerry accused the administration of letting "a nuclear nightmare" develop by refusing to deal with North Korea when it first came to office, the paper reported on its Internet site. President Bush (news - web sites)'s senior foreign policy advisers said publicly Sunday that they did not think the reported explosion Thursday near North Korea's border with China was related to North Korea's nuclear aspirations. "We have no indication that it was a nuclear event of any kind," Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) told ABC's "This Week." "Exactly what it was, we're not sure." He said the administration was closely watching activities taking place at some sites in North Korea, but that "it is not conclusive that they are moving toward a test." National security adviser Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites) said on CNN's "Late Edition" that it would not be "smart" for the North Koreans to test because it would further isolate them. Rice also said the explosion was not likely a test. "We don't think, at this point, it was a nuclear event, but we're looking at it and will get further analysis," she said. "There are all kinds of reports and all kinds of assessments that are going on. Maybe it was a fire — some kind of forest fire." Asked whether a U.S. military option is on the table concerning North Korea, Rice said, "The president never takes any option off the table, but we believe the way to resolve this is diplomatically." The United States, Russia, Japan, China and the two Koreas have held talks on North Korea's suspected nuclear weapons development, and they agreed to hold another round of negotiations in Beijing this month. No date has been set. The United States has pushed for North Korea to fully disclose all of its nuclear activities and allow outside monitoring before it receives any assistance. North Korea wants energy aid, lifting of economic sanctions and removal from its inclusion on Washington's list of state sponsors of terrorism. "North Korea is looking for assurances that we're not going to invade it, we have no hostile intent; they're looking for benefits for giving up their nuclear capability and their nuclear infrastructure. And what we're debating is what will it take to give them the assurances they need and what benefits would they expect over the long haul," Powell said. But, he said, the United States will not "reward them for doing something they should've have been doing in the first place. So we're into a very intense period of negotiations." _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

I found this interesting little blurb on the AP today: I understand wanting to shoot for sport and fun (and I look forward to finally getting a chance to use one on the range), but it cracks me up when people claim lack of personal safety by not being able to own an AK-47. A good friend of mine is a huge pro-gun person, last night he claimed that he will be safer now. I asked him to give me one example in the last ten years when he needed an assualt weapon for his safety or anyone else's. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

Wow, take that out of context!! Congrats Katee! _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

Don't challenge the decision of a greenie - you could get banned _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

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Ah, the could have would have should have debate. Those are always fun. I could be a millionaire if I would have hit all 6 numbers in the lottery. No - just going off the "facts" the Bush admin told us before the attack. They had chemicals, they had a nuke program. They were a threat and SH was going to use them on us. Do you not remember all the stories about what our troops may be hit with? Do you remember all the "breaking news" from the embeded reporters having to put on gas masks due to a possible threat? Do you remember the troops complaining about going into battle with the improper gear to protect them from chemical attacks? We sent troops into a war with the wrong gear into an environment we "knew" where there were WMD. BTW - the "it could, it might" argument is what everyone is using to avoid a conflict in NK. Don't get me wrong - I don't like war and don't support it...I don't want to see more troops dead. I'm hoping there is a way around another invasion. Besides I don't think we would have enough troops to go around. I just interviewed a Marine on Friday. He was four years away from military retirement. He quit after he came back from Iraq (he just got back after being there from the start). He and his fellow officers have quit because they all feel that we shouldn't be there. He also mentioned that they are not talking about the large amount of suicides that are happening over there as well. He gave me over two hours of horror stories from the last year, and nearly made me cry twice. He feels that the amount of soldiers that will be quitting service as soon as possible will make it hard to keep this war going. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

Now wouldn't it have been nice to put that much thought into what impact a preemptive strike into Iraq would have on the region? I think Dave was referring to big communist brother, China. There's no one like that in the ME to be worried about. There was a good chance that our attack on Iraq could have united all of the ME against us. Well, all but Israel. In fact, that is currently happening. Long term threat over immediate. Which is worse? We have made consistent mistakes in the mid east going back decades and the problems we are dealing with now we helped create. What problems are we creating for our children? _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

Ah, someone who actually thinks outside the box. And sending troops into a conflict where they could be gassed with just about anything was a better option? And don't forget we thought he had a "nuclar" program. Oh yea, we got to control the oil after that. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

Now wouldn't it have been nice to put that much thought into what impact a preemptive strike into Iraq would have on the region? They may be political relatives in the NE - but they are religious relatives in the Mid East - which is a stronger bond. The administration has admitted failure on an exit plan because they never thought out what would really happen. Now we have troops from all of the ME pouring into the Iraqi battlegrounds. Both Iraq and Afghan are in turmoil because of what we have done. Yes, there may be quite a few things better now that a madman and a group of madmen are gone -but how long will that last. Religious and nationalistic pride will far outlast any defense budget we can come up with. Maybe you should call Karl Rove with this - he is looking for a spin for the campaign on how to make 1000+ dead troops into a victory for four more years. I've read almost every story on the war since before it started - somehow I missed out on the story that said we had all these fragmented pieces that pointed towards a cohesive bigger picture. If that was there Kerry would have nothing to say about the Iraq war and Bush could claim mission accomplished. That would secure a win for Bush in a heartbeat. We haven't and won't invade N Korea because it would affect us on the bottom line. There is too much we import from the East. If we went in there the sanctions other countries bring against us would devestate this country for decades. This is why we choose to invade two countries that wouldn't affect us negatively financially in the end run. We would be able to put in a pipeline in Afghan and get a seat on OPEC by taking over Iraq. Also, the war machine makes money here at home as well - even the parachute industry is doing OK in a down period for aviation due to military contracts. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

No, that was my first thought as well. On top of that aren't we pulling troops back from that part of the world? There is a clear and present danger in N Korea. We were told there was one in Iraq then we were told, um, never mind....look over there - something shinny! Oh yea, and while you are at it, forget that top priority to capture OBL. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

I always knew you were nuts Mark. Good to hear you are still in one piece! _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

I just read that as well. Gusts over 200 again and a whole lotta Gulf waters to travel over after it hits Cuba. Now the question is - does it hit FL or does it hit the Gulf coast up in the panhandle?? What a goofy group of storms. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

Nope. And the last time I did a Dem was in office. Also - I have only been unemployed while we had a GOP candidate in the White House. What do I do? Sales in the IT world. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

Only one reason I like Kerry. 1) He isn't Bush. That's all it takes for me. But honestly, why the long face Mr Kerry?? _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....