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From the title, thought this might be something like a charity baseball event or something. I'd like to be on a pick-up team of Zorasticists. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

The other 40% must be living in a social and cultural vacuum. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

I believe there are some rules in place now in our state (WI, USA); but not sure exactly what they are. I believe there are limitations on how many people in the car and possibly a curfew. To be honest, I have not kept up real close and am instead going to take charge on my own because as you mention, the rules as imposed by the state are difficult for the police to enforce until something bad has already happened. Saw a show on the requirements of Finland (or maybe Sweden) where driver training is more like skydiver training. Instead of just cruising around at granny speed for a few hours to get a license, they have REAL training. Skid pads, terrain, emergency procedures, etc. The required training here in the USA is mostly a joke. If a kid takes those kinds of courses their first experience at a life-saving emergency procedure is most likely, and most unfortunately, going to be the real thing. Training needs to include exploring the limits of control. Intentionally put them out of control so they know what it feels like and can train for how to recover. All it takes is some cones and a big open space. I've done this for the kids of a couple friends when they hit the point where teaching their own kids was just not working out. They got to have more fun than they thought and fun for me too. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Most definitely stopped him from being Prez. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Agreed, with this and much of the other stuff here. As far as whether or not it will have real impact; make it real for them. Show them the PSA, then take them on a tour. There are 2 intersections, both about a mile from our house that include vivid reminders. At one is a cross, a wreath, and a good sized pile of momentos; the kind a teenage boy would have in his life. We drive by it often, and sometimes a couple of the dead kid's friends are mowing the corner, freshening the flowers, etc. Killed about 3 or 4 months ago, mostly from not wearing a seat belt; but something caused him to run a stop sign and be completely unaware of a truck approaching the intersection. The other is a small triangle of a park called Cally's Corner. Just a picnic table, few flower beds, and a sign put up by her 4-H club after young girl was killed while her teenage brother was driving. In St Croix County alone (WI); I believe we lose at least half dozen teenagers and 20-somethings per year to the poor driving habits of teenagers. (I believe rural 2-lane undivided blacktops are the most dangerous type of road). Of the ones I know of personally; all are attributable to either failing to buckle up, alcohol, major distraction or some combination. Another angle is that adults need to be the best possible role models they can. Most kids, at least in the beginning, emulate their parents. Sloppy adult habits like not buckling, rolling thru stop signs, failing to signal, driving with knees, etc. If somebody drives like that they should not be surprised when their kid gets in an accident. Kids are going to be the most at risk just from lack of experience; but at least 3/4 of the adults I observe are truly shitty drivers; mostly because they take too much for granted and do not focus on the task at hand. Being a good driver is mostly about never forgetting that when that one in thousands moment comes along you need to be on your game 100% - as if your life depends on it. Too few adults drive that way. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

That is so much rubbish. Right from the start to say most people have no choice is total BS. The vast majority of the US population lives in good sized cities. Cities have multiple hospitals; most have too many (read some studies on capacity). The initial premise that there is a lack of competition is so flawed I did not read much further. Total tripe from someone who does not have a fucking clue. Got any original thoughts on the topic - or just going to keep posting from propoganda sites? " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

To charge a fee you have to have content people are willing to pay money for; and unless it was just a single one-time fee; something they are willing to pay for repeatedly. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Nothing like some good real data. Who is going to tape an Alti-Track to an orange and get some? " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Saw very similar thing first hand. Do not fuck with NO police. A guy was peeing in a doorway only a block off Bourbon. Cop came up and instead of doing the smart thing and apologizing profusely, he mouths off. Cops smacked him a few times with these little batons and threw him in the wagon. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Slightly off topic, but true story. On a trip home from Florida a couple years back, got off a shuttle at the airport, guy pulls my bags out and sets them down. I'm out of sorts, just going thru the motions (it was the return trip from my Mom's funeral), and forgot to give him a tip. (I usually do tip $1 per bag for the shuttle driver). So he's lurking, I'm staring off into space oblivious to his presence much less his "need" and he blurts out something about me being cheap. I say "Huh?!" and he makes a derogatory comment, nothing profane but not nice. I lost it. I told him to fuck off or something like that. He in turn threatens to call security, tells me there's laws now about my kind of behavior in airports or something to that effect. So then I'm in his face, telling him to shove his bus up his ass and whatnot, people are starting to gawk, he's getting on his walkie. I eventually just walked away, and nothing ever came of it. He made some assumption about me based on his need, I was in a crap mood, and it just spun out from there. I think it is best to always assume good intentions unless proven otherwise. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

I've had 2 surgeries, and one was the good old fashioned open-it-up type to repair/reset a fully deranged joint. The second was to remove some loose bits that were making it stick. Both ACL's have tearing, enough to feel and be wary of but not enough that I'm willing to have more operations. You've got to decide what you are willing to deal with in terms of discomfort, pain, and future potential surgery. Can you do squats easily? Burpees? Is it just a bit uncomfortable to stand up from a squat, or does it require you use your hands to avoid pain? It's why I'll probably never jump a canopy faster than my current Stiletto, and am very careful not to flare too high. My default is to flare slightly low and surf/slide (even if on ass) rather than drop significantly and pound the knee and ankle joints. Consult your local instructors and veterans. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

They Burn Couches, Don't They? " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Sounds like a title/nickname in the making, . . . Airtwardo The Notorious. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Well, only from personal observation, but skydiver farts are definitlely more potent than the average. I mean, what the fuck are these people eating? I've opened up my septic tank for inspection and it doesn't smell that bad. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Could change, but most likely the energy requirements of bending space or creating wormholes big enough to accomodate a spaceship simply aren't worth the trouble. Based on current knowledge, I think it is estimated it would take more energy than exists in our entire solar system to create a wormhole large enough to handle even a modest sized vessel. And aiming it to a specific destination is pie in the sky. Much more likely that we will build colony ships that travel for multiple generations to get to destinations. Travel beyond the local neighborhood will be one way, and for most it will be the trip of a lifetime - literally. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Not true at all. Eventually, the group before you will acheive 45 degrees. Probably about 15 seconds after they deploy. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Itty-bitty bombs? " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Very true. I even saw it once on a matchbook advertisement: Learn Excorcism In Your Spare Time. 30 day money-back guarantee. Carrying case included if you mention this ad. I think it was from Brown Institute. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

But in a system with guaranteed issue coverage, nobody can be denied. So overall utilization will definitely be up, and rates will either need to be subsidized by the money the govt saves by getting people off their guarantee issue programs, or raised to make up the diffenence. There is also a phenomenon I call a utilization bubble that occurs any time a population, (even just a single mid-size employer group) gets initial access or increased access. All those non-critical nagging injuries and illnesses suddenly get treated. That is going to be no small item to take into account in financing our nationwide foray into universal coverage. These are not reasons to not do it, but they need to be part of the plan. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

OK. But why is it necessary to do it in a garage? Must have missed something. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Wrong. 37K and change for vehicular fatalities in 2008. Nearly half related to alcohol. So even in just looking at deaths caused by vehicle/alcohol combination , it's almost as many as the number "doctors and hospitals are killing." Not to mention that doctors and hospitals save lives, many many more times than are not saved. Doubt if many drunk drivers have saved lives. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

God has a lot of redirect URL's. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

It's really depressing to think of it in those terms; because good luck getting lawyers to pass tort reform, and good luck getting the AMA to loosen it's stranglehold on the supply of docs. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

So by that you mean you think the Healthcare and Insurance companies are FOR healthcare reform and are pushing FOR it? Oh this I gotta hear. My bad It is the drug industry with the 150M in support Regardless, watch this play out. The issurance industry only wants to survive this crap. Wanna bet if they have plans whether or not this piece of shit bill passes or not? Of course they do. Who do you think the government contracts with to administer much of their programs today? Uncle Bob's Shoe Repair?! Most of the work will remain to be done, regardless of what gets passed. Those that can't see the forest thru the trees will just have a new tune to whine. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

For those unfamiliar, the Telegraph is a right wing conservative national daily newspaper in the UK. I like how the opening line disclaims the rest; but of course doesn't stop the spewing. Before comparing expenditures and expecting to see direct corelation to health outcomes; anybody wanna guess the % of $ spent on cosmetic surgery? " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley