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I do hope that this is in the context of showing them how bad of an idea trying to coax it around at low altitude and with lack of power is... ... I agree. The incidence of crashes from attempted return to the runway is pretty high. It's very tempting, which is why so many pilots convince themselves they can pull it off. Among accident investigators, it's known to be a low-probability move. Kevin _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ?

A lot of people who should have cut away and didn't are not here to post. _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ?

I have a Samsung U-620 from Verizon. It's pretty nice. _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ?

The only Crazy People protected from PAs here are the Crazy People who belong to DZ.com. ...Oh wait...that's already most of them. Never mind. _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ?

In some crowds, that is considered a term of endearment. _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ?

Self-Abuse is illegal in some states, so it depends on which Moderator has jurisdiction. _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ?

Don't get wise with me, I'll cut you, Sucka. Oops, somebody beat me to it... _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ?

I've always been one to try to follow the rules, so I'm trying to understand the Personal Attack guidelines as they are applied to the Bonfire Forum. Now, let's say some DZ.com member fatally shoots another in a fight in a gay bar. The shooter can be called an "alleged murderer", once his picture is in the paper and on CNN. However, he can not be referred to as a "murderer" unless and until he is convicted. And he certainly could not be called a "motherfuckin' psycho" unless there were the appropriate convictions, in court, of charges involving his mother and mental health experts testified as to his psychoness. Then there's the problem of a jumper killing another and then killing themselves in the process. I guess since there is no trial, then you can't legally call anyone names, no matter how much of a murderin' psycho they are. I suppose it's a good thing that Mr. Cho, of VA Tech fame wasn't a DZ.com member. can see how many other members would be conflicted in their verbal choices when it came to discussing him. I think I feel better now that I've worked through the logic of this in my mind. I guess I have issues with some current events, and I'm glad that my DZ.com friends and kindly Moderators are here to help. Your friend, Kevin _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ?

I don't really think that ignoring the issue and hiding are the best ways to deal with this. The Sheriff's Dept. posted his info on the i-net, not jumpers. Maybe Salsa will post his own views here and everyone will be treated to the other side of the story. Maybe we are all blowing this out of proportion, and once we understand the facts, it will be OK.

The procedure is cool. They inflate your knee with saline solution to about the size of a volleyball, then put in a little camera and a little cutter. The cutter is very cool. It's a tool that looks like a cross between a Pac-Man and a toenail clipper, and the surgeon guides it along the rough edge of the cartiledge while it chomps away at the torn parts. It has a suction hose on it to suck up all the parts as they are trimmed off. They really cut very little, but all it takes is a small irregularity to cause rough movement and pain in a joint. Of course, you'll be out for all this. And if you get a good anesthesiologist, you'll wake up fresh and clear-headed with a big bandage on your knee. A lot of times, they will save the video of the procedure so you can watch it later. _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ?

If all goes well, the procedure is very really simple and you will be walking that day, if you wish. Start PT as soon as possible and work it properly, and you will be over it amazingly fast. There are usually 3 incisions which only require a band-aid for each. You probably won't even need the pain pills they give you. So bring them to the next CRW boogie, because many of us need them more than you do. Kevin _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ?

It really is something to consider. For the thousands of incidents like this where nothing happens, every once in a while something does. It's probably worth thinking about a restraining order just to keep him off the DZ. I realize that will do nothing against someone who is serious and nutty, but it's something. I can picture him now, getting hopped up on extra-hot salsa and reading the hundreds of posts on DZ.com dissing him. He shows up at the bar wearing a Columbine Trench Coat. It may take Phantom on the roof of City Hall with a sniper rifle to take him out. Kevin _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ?

The entanglement factor in cutting away a side-by-side is not as great as with a front-back configuration, but it still does exist. As some things are in skydiving, there are some complicating factors. I should probably rethink my reply, as it may not be the best thing for all circumstances. The best way to perform a clean cutaway from a side-by-side is to split the canopies apart as in a downplane or a semi-downplane. This makes the entanglement potential very low. The earlier poster stated that her two-out occurred on jump # 6. I certainly would not expect an inexperienced jumper to try a move like that, so if the side-by-side were stable it would probably be best to land it. Kevin K. _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ?

If you figure out how to go back to those old, cheap days, report back and let us know how it went. Till then, you're probably stuck, like the rest of us, with the present days. And nothin's cheap these days. _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ?

In my opinion, it's far safer to land a single reserve than to land a side-by-side, no matter how well-behaved it is. My last cutaway was due to some dude being tangled up in the middle of my canopy - but that's CRW for you. Kevin _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ?

Here is a very nice website established in Bob's memory, with photos, stories, etc. http://www.andthereiwas.com/bobholler/index.html It may have appeared in this thread already, if so, consider this a bump. Kevin K. _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ?

They're around, they've just all been turned into car covers. _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ?

The most popular method I've seen lately is the full-face helmet with hose inserted into the face area of the helmet. (slide the hose between the cheek and helmet padding) This fills the face area with O2, and is a very practical delivery system. When it's time to disconnect, just pull the hose out and go. This works best when inhaling through the nose and exhaling through the mouth. It would be interesting to see blood )2 sat. levels of the various methods. Kevin _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ?

If you need it and don't have it, you'll never need it again. _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ?

I think what he is saying is that the landing procedures should be discussed, and that's when any differences in philosophy will come to light: Load Org: "...OK, we'll all land into the wind with straight-in approaches and keep an eye out for each other in the pattern." Swooper: "Well, I usually do a 270 to a downwind and stop right over there. But I always clear my airspace before I turn. Is that cool?" Other 20 people: "No" Swooper: "OK, how about if I scratch and get on the next load ?" Everybody: "See ya" _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ?

By the nature of S/L, there is more opportunity to teach canopy control. Whether this is done is up to the operator of the course. In AFF, the student is taught a lot of freefall things that simply do not exist on a S/L jump. Therefore, most S/L courses devote additional time to canopy skills. In my opinion, this creates a better base of knowledge for the student, allowing them to start with a smaller number of critical skills and building to more requirements. Good luck in your training. Kevin _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ?

Of the two completed 150-ways, one appeared to be over a cloud. This was no doubt caused by the angle of the photograph, since the jumpers were never near any clouds. Nevertheless, it made for a very nice photo with zero ground clutter that gets in the way of many big-way photos. Kevin _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ?

All you Big-Way fans will enjoy the great photos from the Texas State Record by Perry Perkins. http://www.shutterfly.com/progal/gallery.jsp?gid=768a5498ce7d3999070a An awesome event.

If a jumper lands on an airport runway with a powered aircraft on final, the airplane pilot does a go-around and waits for a clear runway. Sure, he may be inconvenienced, but that's the procedure, and everyone understands that it exists in the interest of safety. The jumper probably will get talked to, to see if a genuine emergency forced his runway landing. If there was no emergency, he gets his ass chewed, and learns a lesson. Obviously, a canopy pilot can not add power and make another trip around the pattern. He can, however, abort his HP landing and make a straight-in approach if a non-HP landing is taking place in the HP area. The non-HP jumper gets talked to about the rules, and the HP jumper goes up for another shot at his swoop. Everyone has a beer at the end of the day, and no one gets killed. Jumpers have shared airspace with other users for a long time. Most of these operate in performance envelopes that are far different from those of our parachutes. The fact that we now have parachutes and landing styles that are different from each other simply means more airspace divisions and more rules. Parachutes don't own the sky. Neither do ultralights, balloons, or rotor craft. The same is true for swoopers and straight-inners. The BSR proposals are great. We need to kick them around with everyone's input until we have a good useable set of rules that give everyone room to operate while allowing safe operation. If we leave it to the feds, we'll all be wearing beacons and transponders. Kevin _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ?