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If they worked it would be awesome i would have a 6 foot penis. I would roam the land naked. Me and my 6 foot penis. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

This Law makes the decision making process much much easyer. Don't pull over. It is simply not fair to lose a $20,000 bike for going 30mph over the limit. Cops lie they do it all the time and the judge always takes there side. Fuck they get away with shooting people 42 times you think the judge is going to be fair? Laws are so we have ajust place to live and to me justice is about being fair. This is just bullshit I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

i have no idea what you guys are talking about. I am just going to sit with GWB and pray are way out of this. youll see in the next 100 years they will remeber us as great leaders. now lets hold hands and pray that always works. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

IMHO I think there is hate, but considering many African Americans have been lynched, killed, segregated and raped believe they have something to be pissed at. Freedom of speech is for everyone when you take actions and do harmful things to another that is when we have issues. No matter what Rev. Wright has said I do not believe he has committed any atrocities against white people. We have a double standard about every thing in this country. History has a lot to do with it. In Germany if a school kid speaks ill of the Jewish faith it is punished much more severely then if the same words were spoken about the Christian faith. Reason the holocaust. Germans have a bad history of committing crimes and atrocities against people of the Jewish faith (actually many others as well). Same thing in the US there are people still alive who were told to get in the back of the bus they’re not even that old. Add that to the obvious slavery and all the horrors committed against the Black man and woman in this country I believe you can at least try to understand why there seems to be a double standard. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

This post / thread certainly meets the sexist criteria. Really But all the other threads with naked pictures, thread bout boobies and all that other shit that you see on this site is ok? I am really trying to understand this. Because when I posted this same picture (as a joke) it was removed and a whole bunch of people got there panties in a bunch. So I am trying to figure out why this picture is so offensive but all the other shit is ok. Please some one explain it to me. It seems some people on this site have a since of humor depnding on who the posters is. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

It will do the job when aimed at the head and not to messy. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Thanks dude. I have a feeling i should keep it out of the sun for the most part. Sweet.

Any one knows if they make a kind for out door use? I don’t have any room in my place but I want to put it out on the deck. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Thats on the army of 2 comercial. donb;t knoiw if thats any help Dave. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKtp6vWDyYM I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Good for him i might be doing something similar in the next few weeks. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Doug Stanhope Joe Rogan (his stand up is very funny) D L hughley Bernie mac I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Yep it’s all over the radio but I do the same thing I usually do when I hear stuff like this. I shake my head and wonder if most of the population is retarded. WHO CARES. As already mentioned you can not hold him responsible for what others say. Also don’t we have a president who talks to god? Haven’t we learned what the mentality of "with us or against us has done"? The other thing they get him on is his wife saying she has never been proud of America. Once again the sheep seem to forget that the most patriotic people are the ones who can criticize their country to make it better. Blind faith and devotion can kill or hurt the very thing you love. We don’t even have to look at old history to see examples and consequences all we have to look at is the last 8 years. The reality is we have a lot of stupid people and unfortunately they can vote. So they know that any one with a brain can research and find out that Barrack Obama is not a Muslim, but they counting on the sheep who still believe the guy is a Muslim. Which by the way judging him for being a Muslim EVEN IF HE WAS would be unpatriotic and unconstitutional. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I have been reading all the posts on this thread. Here is what I find crazy. For some reason if you go up to any rational logical person any where in the world and ask them do you hate people who destroy your home, or kill your family the answer would be yes. But for some reason the fear machine has made rational thinkers lose touch with reality. I can’t believe that we have people who think we are just hated for are culture, or for letting woman drive (which by the way they do in Iran as they go to school, as they work and share the same freedoms as men). How many horrible stories do we here on a national level about mothers killing there kids, or school shooting, or torturing prisoners the list can go on and on. If other countries only focused on the sensationalized stories and only the ones that show the worst of humane nature they would think we live in a shit hole, but we don’t. I also love the arrogance I see in the posts. So many are so sure we have such an awesome culture. Why can’t American culture be great for Americans and the Iranian culture be great for Iranians? What is this quality of forcing the American culture on others? Who is anyone to judge another culture specially when many cultural differences are about spirituality and individual roles. Most people grow up with a cretin back round and certain rules that they learn when growing up, it is ok to like or love the way you have been thought to live. It is however a great sighn of being closed minded to think your way is the only right way of doing things. Now to speed racers question. I read someone post they had said 9-11 happened before we invaded Iraq. Are people that out of touch with US history to think Iraq II is the first time we have done things that might provoke people in the Middle East? The truth no matter your right wing left wing what ever…. The truth if you can read is we have been influencing things in the middle east for decades, and before that it was the British. So do our actions in the past provoke hate, and disgust for us? I say 100% yes. When you have indirectly and directly destroyed homes, economies, governments, supported enemies of others, shot down passenger jets, and basically bullied people in there own home land there not going to like you. This is a simple concept if you hate me and hurt me I will hurt you. I’ll even go further. We would never have been attacked or even disliked if we had a different foreign policy. Don’t be lazy go and read about all the shady things we have done in the last 30-40 years. Put your self in their shoes and imagine it being down to you. How would you feel? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

With a name like Shotgun last thing i want to do is piss you off I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I just fixed it just for you.

I am sure what they do take in to consideration is this. That if there has to be someone who is belittled in the commercial it will be the white person with a dick because if they don’t do that they will be an outrage and portest. Apparently it is only ok to make fun of white guys, and if there are only African Americans in the commercial the one with the penis is shown to be the one who just doesn’t get it. That’s a lot of “guessing”, and “probably” for me to comment. I don’t know if only dumb people watch TV or that inventors and innovators don’t watch TV. Can’t really say. I think doing a Job is not belittling someone, and this is a free country no one can make a person clean do to there sex. I don’t see people who clean there homes or vacuum as belittling I do it all the time. If the Women were made to look stupid or unaware I see that as belittling. That is what is done to men everyday on TV. Who fucks up the financial decision the guy, Who made the stupid mistake at tax time the guy, etc. It is overwhelmingly against the guys, and not only this sexiest it is a common occurrence in every day TV. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Thanks for the link. I am glad someone is out there as well. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I don’t think it is just Dr. L. I think it is the whole culture in the US. Male hating is all over the place. Well maybe not hating but belittling. Have you noticed how almost every commercial on TV (That belittle someone or make fun of someone) the guy in the commercial is always the dumb ass and the woman is always the one making the right decisions or correcting her husband. All guys are dumb, that’s why all the great inventors, and innovators have all been woman. I don’t know I think the whole girls are this boys are this should be left behind in kindergarten where it belongs, but it does get annoying as it becomes more and more expectable to assume anything with a penis is less smart then anything with a vagina. People are people. Edited for shotgun I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

The reason I quoted that again is in hope that people will take the time to read it and try it imagine how it looks in the eyes of the people of the middle east. It makes us look (rightfully so I might add) that we don’t have a problem with Apartheid, violent and an inhumane regime as long as the atrocities are being done by our friends and against Muslims. Combine that with all the torture scandals, and all of our actions and it is easy to see why we are viewed as hypocrites and hated. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I don’t believe capitalism covers an elected official putting "making money" for his buddies ahead of the safety of the citizens who elected him do you? Capitalism works great in a fair market, when you talk about no bid contracts you are talking about monopolies which is what prohibits capitalism from working. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Thank you for the thoughtful post I always like honest, respectful debate. I will try to answer all of your questions as honestly as I can IMHO. I believe most think it is not enough, most think all the land is their land. I view it as someone forcefully taking my house then allowing me to live in the garage under their watch. Most Palestinians view the Israelis as the main reason for all there misery it is viewed as a victory to kill your enemy by any means necessary (and they do not have many means), and giving candy or sweets is a form of celebration in the middle east. Most Palestinians have a few family members who have been killed, imprisoned, or had their homes bulldozed with out any due process. There is a lot of hate and to me the hate is understandable. I don’t think killing any civilians or anyone is ever a good thing. I know the redneck crowed is waiting to jump on anything I say that they can take out of text. Here is the but. But when you have seen Palestinian children killed, imprisoned (I believe Israel has the highest amount of children in prison), Tortured by the same people who you view as the occupiers it is hard to find sympathy for someone who has shown you none. Fair is not really a word to use for war. No one wants a fair war they want to be able to annihilate the enemy. I believe you know the Israeli army capabilities, and you know the Palestinians so you already know why they fight the way they do. I have used the US revolutionary solders as an example before. We invented guerrilla warfare because we had a weaker army and could not fight the British in what was viewed as fair or honorable at the time. So our people hid in the bushes and didn’t line up and play the drums. It is about survival and again it comes back to the Israeli army being viewed as an occupying army by most of the world. If it was not viewed that way Israel would just go in and kill anything that moved. It simply was not there land, and it doesn’t make since that Land that the Palestinians were living on was given away because of what Germany did. It doesn’t make since that some Israelis believe God has told them this land is theirs. Again killing is killing, and the civilian trade of is about a 100 Palestinian civilians to one Israeli so should we start bombing Israeli right now or should we at least stop sending them our tax dollars? There is way more Inocent blood on Israeli hands then the Palestinians. Why do people jusyfie that? Simple are news and media groups most are on Israeli side and unfortunately most American Jews can’t seem to see past their religion and group mentality to see the facts. This is a true story (you can take me at my word or not that’s up to you). I was listening to NPR when Lebanon/Israeli thing was going on. They spent 45 sec. Talking about one Israeli civilian who had died. Talk about how he loved riding his bike, when he moved to Israel, how many children he had (basically painted a picture). When that was finished on the news report they mentioned 9 civilians killed on the other side but spent about 4 sec just mention the number. What does that tell you? That’s the news most Americans get one sided already decided who is evil and who is not. It funny cause most Americans (who are not already committed to the Israeli fight) that go over there see the same thing. The mistreatment of a group of people, Jews only roads, Jews only jobs. The Palestinians have to be up at 2 am and wait in line so they can go do the jobs that the Israelis do not want to do for shit pay. Imagine that for a sec. That a group takes your land kills your family destroyed your homes, and now the only way to be civil is to spend your whole life working for the very people who took every thing from you. This is why I can understand the hate. When I look at the whole picture of daily Palestinian life I can see why they hate there enemy so much that they are willing to sacrifice there lives. Yet many Americans still go to the Middle East and have a good time. Most talk about how friendly the people are, and how good the food is. Simple as you go any where else you respect there culture and you will be fine. I guess that’s why I find ridiculous. I understand if you have chosen the side but whenever I talk to someone who has chosen that side ask for the reasoning they seem to well misinformed. Most talk about civilians dying but have no idea that the west hand is far bloodier then the east. Many have no clue that Israel is viewed as a gross humane rights violator by the rest of the world. Most can understand how we should target people who are helping are enemy but can not see why we are hated for heavily supporting Israel for more then 50 years. It seems people’s morals change to fit there view I think that’s what I have noticed as the mane difference. We have military bases all over the middle east, we have ships and have had ships there for decades with our guns and cruze missals pointed at what ever country we felt like at the moment. How would we feel if the roles were reversed? How would we feel if there were Iranian battle groups out side Florida waters? All these are things to think about if you view things in fair manner. If you have already chosen your side regardless of the facts then why are we even having this discussion? When Hamass was democratically elected we decided we want democracy but only if our guy wins. Kind of the same bullshit as usual, and never gave them a chance. Then we wonder why? Hypocrisy, Hypocrisy, and Hypocrisy is our foreign policy Well Israel has the power to do so, and I believe they lack the morals not to. The only thing holding them back is world opinion. In most of the world out side the US Israel is viewed as an occupying army and a huge violator of humane right, and UN sanctions. I also believe that Israel is fully aware that such a move might mean their destruction as well. I hope that the world would treat them as Hitler was treated. I don’t believe living trough an atrocity gives you the right to commit atrocities, and I would hope that the world doesn’t sit back and just watch. Millions of inocent people get evaporated and just let it pass i hope not. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Unfortunately most don’t see the Israel government for the racist regime that it is. The Israelis are using the holocaust sympathy that they rightfully deserve to implement the same pain on another group, and they have been doing it for more then 50 years. I believe another poster said it best awhile back. The only people who think Israel has a leg to stand on are Jews (they are allowing there sense camaraderie over power there sense of ethics), Americans (they simply don’t understand how one sided there media is on this issue), and idiots (the sheep that follows what the news tells them to follow). The facts are there. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I don’t know maybe I am just getting softer as I age. I truly believe we have a lot more good people then bad. I will never blindly support someone because of a sense of camaraderie I know better, but I believe we usually hear about the bad because it is simply more entertaining and more unusual. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain