Darius11

Basically Israel is not whitin its legal boarders and is and has been braking international law (late 60s). Because we are a sitting member of the UN Security Council with the power to veto we have been vetoing every thing the UN has tried to stop the Violence for the past 60 years. Israel is once again murdering children for Zionism. The good news is that for the first time in my life I actually heard a truthful conversation about Israel on the radio in the US. It was amazing to see how people react when they are giving correct information that has not been filtered. It seems when most people know the actual history they realize we have been supporting a country which goes against every fiber of what the USA stands for. Segregation, Racists, and in philosophy not much different then the Nazi they escaped from. But it all really began in 47-48 when they simply built their homes on top of the people who were living there and used murder and the threat of mass murder to steal land and take over Palestinian villages. The reality is Israel if it was not for world pursuer would have “ethnically cleansed” all the Palestinians long ago as it seems that radicals in Israel believe they are the “Chosen people” and this land belongs to them because of religious reasons. Now never mind that there were people living on that land before there were even religions. No matter what you believe or who you side with. How many times are we going to hear about Israel bombing a school or a hospital until we realize they have no morals or ethics? How hard is it to see that Israel has the power by far? I think it is obvious who the oppressors and who the oppressed are. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Enjoy it man. I have read up on that car and the ZR1 for a while. I thought it was perfect 50/50 from the factory due to the transmission being in the back, and the carbon fiber bumpers? Imagine how much faster it will go without the Spoiler in the back? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm and that’s why I get in too trouble. Have fun dude. I have always liked Corvettes but I am so happy the new ones not only look great but kick ass in every performance category. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

NICEEEEEEEEEEEEE Dude. Black is the color I would get it in if I can ever get one. Enjoy it and don’t forget to drive fast and take chances. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Those are not the only two options. What did the Police officers do before tazres? Did they just shoot people who asked a question? Or did they just beat the fuck out of any one who refused to sign a ticket? The problem is some police officers seem to think because it is a none lethal weapon they are allowed to shoot anyone with it without any protocol. The reality is over 300 deaths in 7 years makes it a lethal weapon. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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I don't want to argue, but I will just say this. The US media is the most one-sided media I have ever seen in the free world on this subject. The reason is Israeli policies would not sit well with the American populace like my self who believe in cretin rights. I understand that you state the reason for those violations are security, however I believe if the media did report both sides Israel would lose its support in the United States. If I seem one sided to you it is because all we ever hear here is the other side. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Honestly I was happy to see the president duck and I was pissed that someone had disrespected him in that manner. So I am glad it did not make contact. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Hey i am not lopsided, i am trying to balance out the lopsidedness Oh well. No matter what I say all they here is blah blah blah hatread for Jews. Have a good New Year as well.

Wow I am late to this thread I just saw this and have to say it pissed me off. I found my self saying things like “hey ass hole he did get rid of Saddam” What is happening to me? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I think you are incapable of seeing it. Israel is a country with Jews only roads. Yea that's not racist i am sure if there was a road in America which was for whits only or Christians only that would not be racist either? I think your vision is clouded and you do your best to find excuses for a country that openly practises racism (based on religion). I have often been accused by people who just don't know better that i am emotionally involved. Reality check. I am not Arab, and my culture does not view Arabs as brothers. Again culturally most Iranians despite what you here from the government side with Israeli. I also have no friends who are Palestinians. If i based my logic only on my sense of camaraderie i would blindly support Israel as well as they have much more Persians in there country then the Palestinians do. So i do not base my opinion on what most assume. I have seen the cruelty and theft that has accrued and is occurring every day and find it morally wrong. What fuels my emotions is how casually the cruelty and injustice is excused by some. I am sorry that all you see in all my post is an angry Arab who wants to kill Jews, but please remember that's not my failing but yours. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I can see the difference but the philosophy is the same. I am not claiming that the Israelis have killed 6 million Palestinians, but the segregation, racism, and the attitude of superiority is there. Can you see the similarity of the KKK and the Nazis? The KKK might not have the same amount of atrocities but you can easily see the philosophy is the same. I clearly rememberr when Sharon said an operation that killed 9 children was a success and showed no remorse for the Palestinian children until there was the fear of a public world outrage. Then he changed his tune to save his ass. He acted as if the Palestinian children were bugs that to me is very cruel, and very Nazi like. There is countless examples of such attitude. I see you talk about the Palestinian acts of violence. Yes they do exist and there are bad elements on both sides. For me i tend to take sides with the guy who had his home and land stolen and not the people doing the steeling. That's the difference maker for me. If a thief comes in to my home with a gun and i kill him i am not the ass hole he is. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

It had to do with a picture about a Muslim family that all the woman were in chadorz(the full black cover). I was taking it personally and over reacting to a joke. It was because there had been a series of posts about muslims that were narrow and negative that were posted again and again over a long period, but i still needed to be reminded to chill out. i'll see if i can find it. And yes every thing you do and say does matter, and the world would be a better place if people acted accordingly I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I have not only changed my mind. I have also learned so many things that i did not know before. I would say SC has made me a more informed person. You your self made a post once that made me realize i had overreacted in BF. I think what matters is who is reading. If you don't believe in absolutes you always have the opportunity to learn. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

It's a Glock that just does not happen with them. Safety is on the trigger and no external hammer. Wow i miss shooting my baby

Admitting what you don’t want to is always difficult. Killing and separating people because of their race or religion etc is what the Nazi did. They treated the Jews worst then you would treat an animal. That’s what the Israelis do to the Palestinians every day sorry if I can’t just turn my head and close my eyes. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

No but if it happens so often and reports of abuse followed by video evidence was rampant then it is not one incident but a way of doing things for the IDF. I understand there are eliminates on both sides who are guilty of cruelty there is no denying that. However there are plenty of people in America who are ready to condemn the Palestinians, Hamas, and hezbolah as evil terrorist. Yet the same people constantly make excuses for the Israeli actions. Also we the United States and its tax payers do not pay billions of dollars a year to Hamas, yet we support Israel which to me is ridiculous as they have violated more laws then I care to list. My issue is always with our hypocrisy and the people who fail to see it. There is the big difference right there condemning the act. Yet we excuse Israel. Do you know that UN resolution after UN resolution has been vetoed by the US. Basically the world keep is saying what Israel is doing is a violation of international law, and Israeli is a gross humane rights violator yet we keep on giving them pardons in shapes of repeated vetoes. If you answer hate with hate it will destroy every one. I understand that. However there can be no forgiveness when there is no attempted at 1. Acknowledging the wrong that was done in the first place, and 2. Making an attempted to make things right. Usually the more powerful member needs to start the process, as they are the one needed to convince as the weaker can not do anything by them self. The original crime that started every thing is when the first Israeli house was built on top of the Palestinian one with the Palestinian having no say. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

this is why you're quickly dismissed as not objective. Until the IDF starts building gas chambers, any comparison of them to the SS or the Nazi regime is going to be poorly received. And you know it. And let me guess if they only kill one million and not 6 there is no comparison in your book ? Too me Their philosophy is the same. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Come one man, do you really think the Israeli government or military can’t figure out that if they drop a 2000 lbs bomb in a crowded neighborhood with children it will cause massive loss of inocent civilian life? How about the 2nd time, or the 3rd or the 100th time when will you admite they know and they don't care. It has been 60 years. I try to stay factual and when I see a disconnect I try to use a comparison to make it real. I think many people just look the horrors the Palestinians have to deal with on a day to day bases like its no big deal or why are they so mad? Yet at the same time I know they would be outraged if they had to go threw 1/10 of what the Palestinians deal with on a day to day bases. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

She was screaming in a weird language and she seemed kind of tan so it’s her fault. This is so tame compared to what the IDF usually does. Ever seen the video of them braking teenager’s hand with boulders? This was a kid who they handcuffed. Not only are they brutal they are cowards killing children, destroying civilian homes with no rule of law. I have said this before the biggest surprise for me is the acceptance of the Israeli actions by the American Jewish society. How can they support any government which is so much like the Nazi government. I just don’t get it. It’s ethics flushed down the toilet for a sense of camaraderie. I think people need to remember it is considered racism not only if you are persecuted because of your race or religion, but also if you are the persecutor. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Yeah, damn that IDF, blowing up Palestinian buses and shopping markets with suicide bombers!! Oh they don’t need suicide bombs. We supply them with enough GPS/Laser guided precision bombs Yet even with the technology they seem to kill a lot more civilians. And let me guess the woman should have been head butted right? I find it so disturbing that if that was a Cop who head butted an American woman you would be out raged. Do you ever ask your self why the difference? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDf0E9On-4Q Not surprising at all and very tame considering IDF history but still worth a look at what Palestinian people deal with every day. I wonder if that woman’s husband or father hates the IDF because of there actions or just because he disagrees with his religion. Wake up people, and see the truth. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Because Iran would not use Nuclear weapons much like every other country that has them. If Iran would use Nuclear weapons on Israel or any one it would be destroyed simple as that. If we can start to use words as a justification for violence and action it will be a very bloody world. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I find it odd how no one on here ever takes the time to answer questions directly. Is it so frightening to think you might actually see someone elses point of view? Here I will try to answer yours as clearly as I can. Like any other country they have the right to attack if they are attacked. Words are not enough of an excuse and preemptive strikes can not be justified. Actions, not words. Imagine if people reacted to GWB words. God, Holy war, axis of evil he has said a lot of stupid things as do all politicians who want to be elected and have a crazy base. I don’t think we have any moral ground to tell any nation they shouldn't have the same technologies or even weapons that we have. If they can make the technology what gives us the right to tell them they can not? Again other then what you see on FOX news Iran has no history of warmongering even with the current government. We are not the world police and most of the problems the world and we have right now is because we have been the world police. However the biggest problem is not us being the world police but being a hypocritical corrupt world cop who does not follow a set of standards but changes standards and applies there version of right and wrong on others as they see fit. Now answer mine I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

The problem is the bending of truth so people don’t have to feel bad about Israel. 1948- is when the Israelis started building homes on top of Palestinian homes. It seems you want to make that seem right or justified and can not come to grips with reality that yes your country was started by destroying lives of the people who lived on the very land that now you call your own. Peoples dreams, homes, and in some cases lives were destroyed so the Israelis could have a place. That’s the truth. I understand that it pains you but it doesn’t mean you can changed what happened. I can’t justify that because if someone did that to me I would very much be pissed and do every thing I can to get what I view as rightfully mine back. Now I take the Palestinian side because they were living on the land when they were forced out. The religious idea that some how Moses believes that Israel belongs to the Jews is a bit far fetched in my book. If you go back far enough there was no Jews because there was no Jewish faith. Zionism is a retarded idea much like the burning bush and the talking snake. I don’t believe in anyone having a magical right to land. What I do see and have seen is how people were kicked from their homes. I don’t know how to make it right, I am not for shedding anyones blood and wars. But I do wonder why the Palestinians ended paying the Europeans tab on the horrors of the holocaust. To me that’s not fair and I can’t just pretend it is because the truth is difficult. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Yea i agree that they have the right to exist and in no way do i wish loss of life on anyone. But I do wonder how we can support a country that has violated humane rights, UN resolutions, and is racists. That I don’t get. I don’t get how we can excuse all of that and more, to me it is very un-American. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain