Darius11

It cracks me up. Sometime I want to make a post about pie just to see if John will say something stupid as usual about how pies are not funny and make his best effort to make it political and say something negative about Muslims. Some people girl are just lost. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Hey do you ever get sick of people picking on you for the stupidest shit ever? What does your speed record have to do with the topic? I have a dude in a bonfire thread telling me that I am not depressed enough to understand suicidal thoughts. Or I am not depressed long enough. It would be great if people kept their issues on the thread and topic at hand. I understand getting off topic a bit but to get personal is just plain stupid and to me it shows you have no facts to back up your argument so you have to use these tactics. I have to say I am not surprised these people tend to support the same kind of politics as well. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I see your point but I believe it is like prostitution. You can’t make a blanket statement. If it is your choice and you are doing it because you want to is different then you are desperate and feel you have no other choice. Lots of grays. Paying a guy for the time he would have to take of work who wants to donate to help, is way different then someone who is destroying his or her health out of desperation. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

my ass has more class then Gonzales

I don’t know I have known a few people in my life who have taken their life I hate the fucking why why why why questions that get stuck in your head after, but I understand the why at least for me it is clear. On my good days I feel like life is great and every thing I have and just the trees and the sun make me happy. On my bad days after I think of every thing I have both spiritual and materialistic I keep on thinking so what. What’s the point? Who cares? For me it is hard to find something pure in life, and the basic things that make people happy and things people value lose all their value in my eyes. Then the good day comes and I am fine again. It sucks but it is what it is. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Thank you for your answer. For me I could not just accept that desperate people can and should be taken advantage of. I believe someone who is left no choice but to sell their body for food, or sell there kidney to save their children is a sad thing that should not happen. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

great post and we are 100% in agreement. However it still does not change are lack of comprehension or in most cases even the attempted to understand different cultures. I can see duckwaters point. I think our court of public opinion is flawed. Please understand that most people are not educated lawyers who hang out with an absolutely different culture during there youth. You are not the majority my friend. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Should rich people be able to purchase organs from poor people if they both agree on a price? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Sorry to point this out to you but most are that stupid. Maybe not on here but I’ll let you answer your self. In a recent pole what percentage of Americans thought that Sadam Hussein was responsible for 9-11? What percentage doesn’t know where Iraq or Afghanistan is on the map? I think we lack courage or understanding to see any thing other then what we are used too. Are all Americans like this no they are not? Many are well traveled and educated, But when it comes to understanding other cultures that are different then our own or world affaires we are as dumb as it gets. Once again because we have never had the need to learn. It should be no surprise that our public standard for math and science is below some countries that we consider 3rd world. Sorry I know the truth hurts. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I think it also has to do with culture and the way Americans view dogs as almost and in some cases more then humane. He broke the law but if he had killed a Piping Plover he would pay a fine and no one would hear about it, but because it is dogs and most Americans put a very high value on dogs he will be crucified. I am not arguing about the law as it is written and there is no need for an argument. However I can understand how many times the Law and our justice system does not enforce justice. We also have many cases of hypocrisy, and a lynch mob mentality. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I love dogs I love all animals most of them I get along with better then people. I agree with you it is our ignorance and arrogance. Don’t forget we even try to force our “way of life” on others who clearly don’t want it. I am not surprised at this. We are isolated from other major borders and we are the only real super power so we assume our way is the correct way. It’s funny when I read some of the replays to you on this thread it is obvious how some tend to just not get it. They let their love of dog’s take over there logic. That happens to most people when dealing with an issue that is emotional to them. You are right. In some cultures like Iran Dogs are viewed as a working animals. They are used as guard dogs. They are not allowed inside the home, or at the dinner table they are viewed as dirty animals. Not dirty as in a bad animal but dirty in the factual sense of the word. They’re our cultures where dogs are viewed as food. Most Americans have no clue about what is considered rude or polite in other cultures they simply never had to learn. That’s fine what is not ok is when we try to force our views on others. We kill Cattle, Chicken, Pigs (that are claimed to be as smart as dogs), and we hunt for fun. There is one thing I have an issue with if it is true (our media is very bias and is more entertainment then news) that he tortured the animals then he did brake the law and deserves punishment in my opinion. Any respectful hunter and I know many take pride in making sure the animal does not suffer. They make sure the animal has a quick death. I respect that. If I saw someone torturing a dog I can’t care about his culture it is simple morality and would have to do something about it. If I saw a hunter who tied a deer to a tree and tortured it for no reason I would not be able to deal with that and most likely end up in jail. If the majority of African Americans believe dog fighting is their culture they should work on setting standards and making it legal. Did he brake the law? Yes Is there a huge overreaction fueled by the media and our personal cultural view? Yes Will he be punished unjustly for his crimes? Yes he will he already has lost millions for killing dogs. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I understand taking pride in doing it your self. Way the go dude. I did not mean to make less of your effort by saying lucky. However I consider my self lucky and I have worked hard all my life. It is good to be a hard worker it pays off. Peace and keep it under 150;) I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Hey I love my gto. :) The best safe bang for the buck is a chip. Plugs, wires, cold intake,headersn and exsu. But your car has power, spend the money on handling. That's the cars weak point. Nice car man you are a very lucky guy to have such a sweet ride at 17. Enjoy it and be safe. Some times it is better to lose the race but save your ass. Oh yea one more thing stangs sound fucking awesome I love it. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

i never had Waffles I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Prevention costs less then a cure, would we help prevent health issues become major problems or just act or only after. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Because everyone should be able to pay for cancer treatment, not only the rich. If you are sick money should be the last thing on your mind your maine concern should be how to get healthy. I hope as a society we value life more then a profit. I also think most would agree that valuing a profit more then humane life is immoral. At least I hope most agree. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Insurance is a necessity as shit happens to all of us. Car insurance, home insurance, or health insurance. For one the greatest and most powerful countries in the world we have one of the worst insurance/health care issues. Insurance should not be a business. It should be a not for profit simple as that. When it is a company trying to make money their only legal obligation is to their stock holders, and the way they make a profit is by not approving claims. Their job is to find a way to screw you as their job is to make maximum profit. I am all for capitalism however not when it comes to a life necessity like insurance. Insurance should be taken over by the government or should be a not for profit organization. Sorry if this has already been mentioned I did not read threw the 5 pages of posts. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

What was a really big surprise for me were the Dateline shows to catch a predator. It just blew me away that they would set up for 48 hours in a small town and get like 30 guys, and do it all over again next week. I never knew there were so many pedophiles out there. It is just insane. I am glad your kids are ok, and be glad you found out now. D. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Yet Another example of our great arrogance and bully attitude. Killing is ok if we are doing it or our friends are doing it, but hey I guess it is survival of the fittest. It’s when people try to make our actions honorable that I have an issue with it. Don't forget it's all for the money I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

thank you, and everyone else for the PMs and offers of support.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8QAeoFdM5g&mode=related&search= I have no idea why but i love this shit. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I don’t know all the details of the incident actually I don’t know much about the incident. The article makes it sound like the marine was responsible for the death of 12 people. Is that fact or assumption? I thought the circumstance of the murder were in question not the murder it self. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Update: Just want to thank everyone who nudged me in the right direction of supporting my friend and not criticize or mentioning my issues with AA. He just celebrated 190 days sobriety, and is doing great. Great Job reconnected with his father, and his brother. He sounds great and is happy without help of any substance. I am so proud of him and will continue to do all I can to help and support him. I figure you all should be proud as well. Thank you all for the great advice. Life is good

Well if the people were killed, but the government is letting the guy go due to stress and situations I really don’t see a cause for celebration. The reason our marines are in such environments is because of our faulty intelligence, so when people die that other wise would still be alive it is a sad day. Even more so when our government holds no one accountable. No different then when a cop gets off for shooting an unarmed man 42 times. It shows that we don’t believe in justice and will treat our own on a different set of rules then we expect others to follow. As stated before when we make excuses for a bad apple other then proper punishment it makes all of the good guys look just as tainted. Again I understand/ or can try to understand the difficulties of urban warfare, however the fact is we did not need to be there in the first place. I am not surprised at this result as we have given ridiculously light sentences when our troops have been convicted of war crimes. What was the last one 5 years for murder. I would be very pissed if someone killed my family and was let go to due to bull shit reasons. Specifically if they are invaders of my land as well. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

They won't be able to read the report with all of that egg on their face, or utter an apology while eating crow. I don’t think any one on the right can see any egg on anyone’s face considering thanks to this administration they have been swimming in a pool of shit that is geting deeper. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain