Darius11

Thank god Wendy for some reason you always get my point and are able to express it better then I can. Modesty (that was the word I was looking for) Modesty is valued very high in Iran. I know in this country you might get made fun of or considered a freak if you are modest (iknow of a few girls in school who were modest and they weren't cool enough), but in a different culture what is valued is different then what is valued here. That’s the whole point. Thank you Wendy Oh yea and modesty is considered liberating to woman as they are judged for who they are there brains not their boobs. The same for men judged for what you can do not if you have nice biceps. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Please explain what you mean? Did they go around calling woman whores? Or what? When you go to Rome you do as the Romans. If they did then they are out of line. As when you live in this country you should respect its cultures and laws. All i am saying is every one should do that when in someone elses land. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Trust me John if the majority of Americans had yours or Marks views about Muslims I wouldn’t have come in the first place, and if I did I most likely would have been tortured and killed by now. Thank God most Americans know better then to judge a whole religions from the actions of a few, thank god most know not to make fun off or judge cultures that are different then there own. At least the people I hang around with seem to get it and they are from all walks of life, and most are Americans. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

If you want to be picky in this country the president can put you away and throw away the key and you have no right for representation, and no right for a speedy trial. Off course this gets practiced in Iran much more then here that I will agree with. The issue for me is when people make fun of something they don’t even understand, or worst hate something they don’t even know any thing about. What I find funny is this. Our system which most Americans (including my self) complain about no matter if we are talking about are dirty politicians, or if we are talking about our justice system is not so great, yet still we judge other cultures and try to force our views on them. My biggest issue is when people assume that people are just dying to be like us. We just need to get over our selves. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

The simple answer is yes woman are a step lower, just as woman in this country are still a step lower when it comes to pay for exs. It depends how you look at it. To some of you who are not familiar with the culture just the fact that woman ware hajob (Islamic cover) is enough for some of you to scream inequality. In my view it is no ware near perfect and has a lot of work to be done, but the same can be said about anywhere. People who have not lived in a culture or better yet have not been a part of a culture can not understand the mindset of the people who believe in their culture. Many things that we view as standard are viewed differently there and wise versa. My point is how can you make a judgment of someone else when they live in a different world then you do? It is extremely arrogant to assume that our way is the only way and to be so closed minded to write of something that you have zero familiarity with. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Wow you actually replied. Well good for you. Here is a questions if Mohammed is the # 2 name in the world or at least top 10 would it not be stupid to concentrate on a name? unless you believe that all people named Mohammed are islamo-fascist? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

please don't become a john and don;t twist my words. I am used to others doing it but not you. In their culture it is viewed that way as mention in the original post which you either missed or deliberately left out to start shit. That is the way it is viwed by them and they are entitiled to there view. Just as the swim suits seem funny or odd in this culture. We are all allowed to have our own culture I believe don’t we? Here is the full para I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Because we have a few people on her who deserve to hear that. This is not a one-time occurrence. Him and JohnR and a few others always do the same thing. Then you have a few others who spend time pointing out the FACTS about a subject. What happens is they just ignore it and then make another thread. The definition of stupidity is not making a mistake but making the same mistake over and over again and not learning from it even after many have pointed out the error of your ways. If it is not a mistake and just a hateful post designed for the soul purpose of spreading hate then I have no respect for that either. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Yep me too. The more i read about him the more i think he is on the ball and living in reality. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Lets see last thread you said the same shit but did not reply to anyone What the definition of a troll again? here is the same thing i said before. For someone who hates muslims so much what the hell are you doing so close to them? The horaldo show where he put KKK members in front of African Americans comes to mind. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

That’s very true. What drives me nuts is how blind people can be. They assume no they are sure that every Muslim woman is just waiting to show her boobs but there is a guy with a gun to her head saying no. The way woman and men dress in the west is not acceptable to their culture. If you dressed like Brittany in public Muslim cultures they will look at you like a whore and not just the men the woman will be even a harsher judge. That’s what people don’t get. That is their culture and frankly who the fuck are we to judge. We have guys who post pictures of there wives ass and tits on this web site. Your telling me Muslims objectify woman more please here is a mirror. If you view the “love of your life” as a peace of meat that her assets to you are her tits and ass how enlightened are you? But if that’s your culture hey good for you, but don’t force it on me and I won’t force mine on you. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Believe it or not in some cultures a woman is valued for who she is and not how much of her body she decides to show you. And as mentioned a hundred times before these laws are for men and woman. No one wants you to learn our culture fuck I couldn’t give to fucks, but at least know that you know nothing and stop judging or making statements about something you know nothing of. As for trying to force views and beliefs on people all we have to do is look at where all our troops are and how many bases we have in the Middle East to see who is trying to force things on others. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1890354.ece Here do us all a favor and educate your self. Mohammed is not only one of the most popular names in the world it is # 2 in the UK. Wow they must all be killers you be careful now ok. Here is your sign. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

The Islamic republic of Iran was not an Islamic republic until the revolution and not until the people voted an Islamic regime in to power. That is called democracy. Islam as a religion asks every one men and woman to cover their body of what would be considered sexual arousing to the opposite sex. For guys you are not allowed to ware short selves shirts, tight pants, tight shirts and things like that. That is part of being a Muslim you don't like it fine. But please stop judging or making comments about people you know nothing of. I believe there has been many times that either I or someone else has pointed out one of your many false claims. When that happens you disappear and then show up somewhere unrelated and blab out something negative or in your view negative about Muslims. Unfortunately for you and many people with the same views as yours who are incapable of seeing any way of life other then your own. I always find it funny when woman here think the Iranian woman are just begging to be like them. That always cracks me up. I love how some think “How could any woman want to save her self only for her husband she must be forced to” believe it or not in some cultures a persons purity is valued more then if she swallows or not. You know what’s that’s called? A different culture and it would great to learn other culture and not criticize one that you are so obviously oblivious on. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Thew women are fine, it's the dudes treating them like cattle that suck. WOW i havn't seen THAT much ignorance in so few word in such a LONG TIME. But I also dont frequent the SC forum much Yea i was about to say come to SC you get shit like that every 5 min. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Unfortunately Bill I think many look to him as a news source, and many use his views and the many false So called facts he uses in their arguments. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Not only have they done that, they make sure they put a huge emphasis on the word Hussein when ever they mention Barack Obamas name. Like because his middle name is Hussein he should be compared to Saddam. How fucking stupid do they think there viewers are? Fox does countless shady stuff like this, Bill Oriley is the perfect example of a right winger. Whenever someone argues facts and he starts to lose the argument he cuts peoples Mic off, does not allow his guests to speak, and is rude to any one who does not agree with him. They also use keywords to that push peoples emotional buttons. Maybe that’s why close to half the country has no clue who attacked us on 9-11. What’s funny is the ones who claim to be the most patriotic are usually the ones who get too emotional to notice they are being played like the sheep they are. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Yes maybe a bit worst maybe a bit better. No It makes us the Alpha We live in a country where Money is respected more then most things. The rich company and special interest money shapes or at least effects the decision making of our president (all of them not just GWB). We make our decisions based on what is good for our countries economy, and often use our safety, fear, and the ignorance of are citizens to achieve our goals and get their support. What I find amusing is when people insist that we are doing the “right thing” that we have honor or we give two fucks about anyone else but our selves. We don’t. Very few leaders have done the “right thing” and often in history when they have done the right thing it has just happened that the right thing for their nation happened to be the right thing to do as well. We are not the good guys we are the guys with a system that makes life enjoyable for the strong and people who are willing to work. Because we offer such a great life people usually in the higher educated, or in the higher financial bracket tend to gravitate towards America therefore making our society stronger. I believe there will be a day when humans will be able to have all that is materialistic things they want. Unlimited energy, homes for everyone and everyone’s basic needs would be met. Then I think we can begin to get away from our animalistic ways and actually evolve to people who value spirituality. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Unfortunately many times what’s fair is different then what a man should do. Should she pay her half? Yes Should you pay so she can take care of your child and support her in a life style that you find normal? Yes If she does not pay or can not pay is it fair for you to pay more then her so your child can have the” normal life”? No but should you………….I don’t want to say yes because I have seen cases where the woman takes fuel advantage of the child and treats the child like a pay check. In that case I would take full custody and tell her to go fuck her self. If she really can’t pay her end and is not a golddigger then you should do whats best for your child. What is kind of throwing every thing off for me is from your posts I get the sense that she kind of expects you to pay for everything, do all the travelling, as if her only job is taking care of this child. That’s not cool. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I think all that is left then si for you to support her financily and to be there for your child. 50/50 sounds good and fair. I will PM you my personal story in a sec. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

what does she want? What is your financial situation and hers? (Sorry not trying to find out what you make but get an idea if money is an major issue or not) how old are you guys? Did you promise her marriage at any time? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Are you asking about abortion as to keeping the child? Or are you asking should you two get married? You have already stated that you will take care of the child and be a responsible dad (good). That is your only duty. If the relationship is great and you would marry her anyway go ahead if not then don’t. Consider this more then 50% of people who get married get divorced and that’s not saying the other 50% is happily married. So marrige is not key. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Wow dude i would love to know the HP and torque output? i would also love one in my drive way.

oh the greys what shade is the best. I have no idea I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain